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Author Topic: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video  (Read 89754 times)

Larskro

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2012, 11:10:42 AM »
Hi
The scop shut is over the diode.

Larskro

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2012, 11:14:07 AM »
HI
Picture of the AAA / COIL.

Larskro

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2012, 11:44:40 AM »
HI ALL
Drawing of the coil.
 
If you believe that self-running devices works (Video 1) is my headline wrong.
If you believe that self-running, overunity devices DO NOT works, my headline is correct.
The meaning of this video is just to open peoples eyes.
I did not expect that someone wanted to replicate this motor.
Thanks to all interested.
 Larskro

broli

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2012, 12:08:31 PM »
So much effort in hollowing out the head of the bolt, you could have just went with some 12V A23 batteries which is just a stack of button cells and smaller than AAA. Please show the opened coils as well while you're at it. You can't expect people to be critical only to one side of the argument that's called having double standards.
 

T-1000

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2012, 03:30:06 PM »
I thought that possibly the magnet generation would affect the brightness also in one direction vs the other. So I had to try it. But the generation isnt much compared to what happens with the coil shorting and then discharge to the led.

That instantly did "ding" in my head about what N. Tesla was doing to charge capacitors and what Ismael Aviso was doing also.. ;)
http://www.tfcbooks.com/images/articles/1919-05-00/19190500_fig_10.gif from http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm
http://home.dmv.com/~tbastian/images/CorumDesign.gif from http://home.dmv.com/~tbastian/ball.htm

And Ismael was doing that also :) - www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY#t=0h30m00s

Hopefully that will explain some things.

Magluvin

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2012, 05:05:54 AM »
UUUUGGGHH!  Trying time and time again, every time I want to post this site just keeps recycling back to the home page. I dont even know what I wanted to say now, except this.
I know its not a pay site that I should expect anything, but im so frustrated.  ugh

Off and on since 530 till now 953. At times I could read, but when I finally went to post, home page.

lol im probably too whacked right now to say anything without it sounding off kilter. But Ill see what I can do.

Lars
Thanks for the pics and drawing. Your camera takes nice pics.  ;]

But here is something to think about next time you make a lesson or a production that makes people think.

Planning is important. Like making a movie for the theaters, there is a beginning middle and end. And throughout there are many many details to cover before coming to theaters near you to make the production believable to the paying audiences. the more believable the more money they make.  ;]  Good planning is important.

Lets say this all was a movie. In the end most would probably see the pic of the voltage measure of the led and say AHH, yep there is a battery in there. But some of us will see that the top of the picture cuts off the view of the the other end of the motor where the other led is.
Some of us would look at it like the first Rocky movie where his fist is like 12 inches away from  his opponents head, but the opponents head flys back like it was really hit. If you watch in slow motion it gets really ridiculous.
Or like in I think it was Commando, where he dropped Sali over the cliff. The girl says What happened to Sali? And Arnold says, I let him go. Classic. But at this point Arnold and the girls car is trashed and Sali's Porsche is up on its side with the driver door down. But Arnold being the Commando, simply rolls the car to its wheels and they get in and put the pedal to the metal and are on their way. But some of us will notice that the driver side of the car is a bit smashed up. But when they drive away, it is in perfect condition. I seen it. ;] You can too.  Details details

So some of us will say, bahh, they just hooked up power to the other led that we cant see to try and fool us that there is a battery in there. Movie tricks. Bahh, The drawing of the battery embedded into the hollowed out bolt head is, well, just that, a drawing and proves nothing. Seeing is believing if the view covers all bases. And this IS what some are thinking. Thinking it is a B rated movie that just isnt totally believable.

Dont take this badly. Im just trying to get you to understand that an undertaking like the one you took could have been better planned to a point that nearly everyone liked the movie and story line. People can walk away and say That was really good wasnt it? Yes it was. Cant wait for a sequel. ;]  I dont expect anyone to be a Steven Speilburg. It is what it is. But some can be when they learn the ropes. ;]

Now after seeing the pics today, I was kinda in disbelief at the pic of the voltage measurement. But then I thought that maybe you didnt really get what I was telling you about how you should go about doing a short vid of the  voltage measurement that could convince the best critic. Including me. ;] Maybe you didnt remember, but from my explanation here you might get the point.

There might be another reason for the pic the way it is taken. Just thinkin. Maybe your lesson is not finished yet. Who can say for sure?  Maybe it is all still part of the project to see what people will do, the more you reveal questionable clues. Again, dont take this badly. The reasons why I might think that, are all here in this post, just as a possibilty. I am not in a box. ;] I dont like it in the box. ;]  Im outside, and looking at everything, not just what they want me to believe and accept it as truth.

Again, if you had shown the short vid, I wouldnt even be writing all this. I would have been writing, Very cool Lars and thank you for doing that. ;] All questions would be over.

Also, next time it would be good to have pics of the build. People always love that kind of show. It gives a feeling of being full, instead of still hungry left wanting or needing more when the show is over. They just smile and enjoy instead of question.  ;]

Thanks again Lars. You can hang out here anytime. Your welcome here. ;]

Mags

Magluvin

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2012, 05:16:45 AM »
Hey T-1000

Thanks for those. Good stuff.  Hopefully you have more "dings" for us. ;]

I liked the Avisio vid. The reasoning for the resistor on the gate of the mosfets was interesting. Never thought of that before.  Makes sense.  ;]
Im going to go over the other stuff and get back on the bench again for a bit here.

Mags

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2012, 05:38:16 AM »
Hey MileHigh. Where ya at?  Still thinkin? Well, theres always tomorrow. And the next day.
And the......   Take your time. I know you will come up with something.  ;) History

Mags

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #68 on: April 19, 2012, 04:59:00 PM »
Mags:

I am not sure what you want from me. "History"  ?

MileHigh

Larskro

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2012, 05:27:20 PM »
HI
Good look to all of you.
LarsKro

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2012, 07:04:41 PM »
Has this video been commented on by "Skycollection"?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEjA8jlOOa0
 
Thanks,
 

Magluvin

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #71 on: April 20, 2012, 12:52:38 AM »
Mags:

I am not sure what you want from me. "History"  ?

MileHigh

Nothing I suppose. Its history.  ;]

I used the word history to show that you 8) wont respond accordingly if someone calls you 8) on your 8) facts.  As shown clearly by your 8) above post and the one before that. ;] 

You 8) are the one that claimed that I was jumping the gun. Do you 8) think I just pretend to work on this stuff? Are you 8) saying I am bluffing, by throwing your 8) unsubstantiated facts as your 8) evidence to somehow make me look bad? 8) What a joke. I rip apart every word of your posts to see what you 8) are up to.  ;) You betcha.

If you 8) ever have said oops I was wrong(I have), I wouldnt think that you 8) are 'only here' to bash any possibilities of free energy and OU. It is your goal in my point of view. You 8) never retort. You 8) only go on as if nothing happened, or talk in diversions to take attn off of your downfalls. I see Wilby busted you 8) up good the other day. ;]  He and I agree 100% on how you 8) handle your affairs here. Its simply "history", meaning we can just go back in time and read it to find the truth.

If you 8) are this bad at simple pulse motors, what the heck business of yours 8) to talk cold fusion let alone seemingly simple stuff in comparison?

Have you 8) read my posts? Is "history" the only word that appeared on your 8) screen within my posts?  Your 8) "not sure" of what I wrote in response to me replying to your 8) "jumping the gun" comment?  Here is what I think. Almost 2 days and you 8) cant figure a way out of the hole you 8) dug, and finally decided to post what we see above. I knew it would be tough. You 8) didnt even try. :'( Not even an oops. :-X

Well, I suppose the readers can figure it out for themselves. Our posts define who we are to the readers M. Someone said that to me the other day. So true.

If you 8) ever try that sly crap again, I will bust you 8) up again. ;]   If this is the game you  8) want to play. ;D I know how to play. ;) We can call it Risk.  :o ;)
How do ya like dem apples? ;)

Mags

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #72 on: April 20, 2012, 01:08:05 AM »
Guys, maybe is it enough of wrestling and time waste?

It would be much better if you put your time into ressurection of Muller dynamo - http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:William_%28Bill%29_Muller_Dynamo  (http://www.overunity.com/3842/muller-dynamo/). With your skills it should be possible ;)

Larskro: It is up to you, but you can still learn from what N. Tesla was doing more than 100 years ago: http://ia600302.us.archive.org/16/items/inventionsresear00martiala/inventionsresear00martiala.pdf
Then do experiments and see yourself.

Magluvin: There are always closed minded sceptics around and you can spend your lifetime arguing with them...

Cheers!


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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #73 on: April 20, 2012, 01:08:31 AM »
Mags:

As far as I am concerned you are wigging out.  What I said is that if the reed switch is closed when the magnet is near that the coil itself will generate EMF and that will be in series with the battery voltage.  Do you disagree with this?

I also said if the EMF is greater than the battery voltage then you could see the same difference in brightness effect in the LEDs depending on the direction of the rotor.  And apparently you are having a freak-out over this.

So you have battery in series with a coil in series with an LED when the reed switch is closed.  The timing of the closing of the reed switch is different depending on the direction of the rotor.

So with a scope and a piece of graph paper you could construct a timing diagram for how the setup operates for both rotor directions where you show the voltages and the current.  That will explain the difference in brightness of the LED flash.  Is that worth freaking out about?  Jesus.

Screw you with your double-standard where someone might mention something technical and you engage them but if I say something technical you freak out and attack me.  Pull yourself together.

MileHigh

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Re: Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video
« Reply #74 on: April 20, 2012, 01:09:10 AM »

Hi OU dot Com sharp members,

Sorry, have I missed the beginning, or what?

So, one individual named "LarsKro";
Spent a lot of time and money just to fool people?
IMHO, this ain't good for your Karma, Larskro.

Fortunately, this very forum is a den of witty people and a lair of
very astute experimenters.

My take is that:
Larskro has a very subtile agenda.
This agenda is not do design another faked device (please consult the huge records). :'(
This agenda is to 'prove' that some genuine 'OU' devices are, actually, faked.
Did he not give a wrong circuit?
 
Of coarse, I can be wrong! :P
Anyway, Very Best,
Jean