Nice to see you guys picking up on Adams motor

Just all of this thread screams to be pointed into Bedini SSG, with reed switch isntead of coil/hall sensor.
There is alot to be exploited in BEMF/radiant area from collapsing electromagnetic field, as those pulses act differently than conventional electricity. For example, if you have 2 generator coils winded on top 2 driving coils and try attach single diode to each when other side of those coils are common ground, when you try to catch BEMF spikes ant rectify them the diodes do not work as intended and act as short wire for BEMF... So you get current between 2 diodes cathodes. I tried this setup once more in my rewinded stepper mottor what got now generator coils on top of driving coils and clearly can see this effect.

P.S> The BEMF pulses are much higher voltage than initially (up to 10-20 times) with very low current usually.

Cheers!

T-1000:

There is alot to be exploited in BEMF/radiant area from collapsing electromagnetic field, as those pulses act differently than conventional electricity.

I know that is your understanding and a lot of people believe that, but in fact it's not true.

The BEMF pulses are much higher voltage than initially (up to 10-20 times) with very low current usually.

That's also another misunderstanding.

There are some people around here that may be able to help you and explain this to you.

Also, please note that it can be very difficult to describe schematic diagrams in text.  A simple diagram is worth 1000 words!

MileHigh

T-1000:

I know that is your understanding and a lot of people believe that, but in fact it's not true.

That's also another misunderstanding.

There are some people around here that may be able to help you and explain this to you.

Also, please note that it can be very difficult to describe schematic diagrams in text.  A simple diagram is worth 1000 words!

MileHigh

Lol  Typical MH. Everyone is wrong, yet no real explanation of why. Just , as above, " not true" and "misunderstanding" and "Others here can show you" (passing the buck) and discounting T-1000's words for lack of a picture. This isnt Playboy magazine.  I understand what T-1000 is saying, yet you require more from him.
I know your game MH.

Mags

Mags:

It's no game.  You know the thread, we went though it on our.com and I thought that you "got it."

Perhaps you can explain what he means.

MileHigh

I know what you are getting at MH
People refer to the spikes as a voltage source and should be calling it a current source.

But it is none the less EMF( bemf, cemf, reverse emf, or just emf) which describes Voltage, pressure, potential difference..Just because the field collapse is the motive for current to flow, doesnt mean that voltage does not exist at the leads of the coil when the collapse is happening. The measured amount of voltage will depend on the load it is provided to. Even a DVM is a load across an open coil with a very high ohm "load", thus a high result of voltage read. A voltage meter with a higher internal ohms will read a higher voltage that another meter with a lower internal ohms.

If we have a coil collapse, there is a force of potential created across the ends of that coil. Voltage is a potential difference of electric pressures between 2 points.

To say that claiming of a specific high voltage caused by field collapse is incorrect is not totally true.

And to specify a peak voltage from the collapse can have a specific peak value if the input is consistent, is not necessarily incorrect. In some cases a coils field collapse could cause thousands of volts that can jump across open air distances. And some wont jump across a 10th of a millimeter. Just because it is a current source, doesnt mean that a number in terms of Voltage peaks cannot be applied.

So I dont have much of a problem with describing the output of a coil field collapse as a high or very high voltage number. Even if it is very temporary, there is a number in voltage that can be applied to the description of the output. Voltage does not have to be constant to be described in numbers.

In the case of what T-1000 is speaking of, It sounds like he is seeing the diodes break down reversed biased. The voltage pressure peaks due to the collapse current can breach the diodes peak inverse voltage level, as the coil doesnt see a load till its voltage potential reaches that level.

Mags

Well MH, sometimes I get frustrated with your posts. Like the one to t-1000, only comments as to what is right and wrong, but without explanation to accommodate your accusation. When in the post above, you clearly say that my explanation is correct, yet you would not put it out there in complete as I did.

I would appreciate your posts a great deal more if you were to clear up your convictions as you divvy them out. Not everyone is like me to come and clean up the mess, so that your simple comments are not taken lightly and just assumed correct.

All meant in the nicest way possible. ;]

You say you want people to learn from what you say. Well, teach then. Bust out the goods. You clearly know this stuff. And you post enough that I think more of it can have some substance.

Ok, I gota git to my shop to put some things together then back to the bench.

Mags

And it appears to be accelerating, with no batteries (or any other external input)?
 
Nice built as always.
Thanks for posting the link.
Mike

Well..... this is what I see.
The first, slow start by Mr. Hand certainly decelerates normally -- I hope that much is agreed.
The second, much faster start by Mr. Hand also looks to me like it decelerates steadily and normally for a heavy flywheel on good bearings, right up into the zoom at 3:42... and then it looks like it jumps up in speed during the zoom.
It's hard to tell because of the frame-rate flickering, but I've watched it several times, and it sure looks like it decelerates until just around 3:42 in the zoom and then gets a boost there.

ETA: That hub arrangement looks a lot like a disk drive motor assembly to me.

This guy ReasonForeMost is a major poster at Larskros 3rd vid. He agues with me about my questioning. I asked him 2 times now if showing a measurement of the voltage on the motor, not running , is unreasonable. Still just bush beating me. Who is running that show anyways?  ;]

Wouldt it be funny if we cant even get a simple measurement on video of the 1.2v on an leds leads? There have been many requests to open the coils, even Stefan would like to see.

This Reason guy has me wondering even more. He says just take their word for it.  lol are you kidding me. In this day and age and all we have seen.

We will see what Larskro comes up with. I gave a test criteria to avoid any trickery. Simple 2 min vid is all I can be satisfied with giving Lars the benefit of the doubt that it would ruin the coil to open it.
It was suppose to be a lesson about scammers. Good greif. Finish the lesson and open a coil.   Maybe the not opening the coils is a sign that the lesson is not over yet?

Hey everybody, come see the magnet motor working!! Look! Looky, it works!!!
But dont build this motor, dont waste your time. Oh, no I cant open the coil. Oh, I dont know how the circuit is connected for sure.  Gime a break. lesson?

Mags