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Author Topic: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.  (Read 942999 times)

evolvingape

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #825 on: March 10, 2012, 01:24:09 PM »
Quote from: eatenbyagrue on March 10, 2012, 08:59:27 AM

What?  Are you such a pedant that you are seriously trying to put my answer down as wrong?  Ever heard of rounding?


And I did not use any online calculator.  There is no Google function for 100 grams of water raised by 60 degrees for 60 minutes.  I used physics formulas.  This is not rocket science, dude.

 Hmmm... “pedant”, who would use a word like that ?

 
You answered a question that was not for you, it was clearly for Rosemary, allowing Rosemary to dodge the issue completely. Of course I have heard of rounding it was in my reply you idiot. RTFQ!

 
There is no Google function for 100 grams of water raised by 60 degrees for 60 minutes because ENERGY and POWER are NOT THE SAME thing. You would use a calculator to calculate energy and then use another calculator to convert to power. The difference between Joules and Watts is the point!

 
TK asked TWO questions:

 
How much energy is put into the water to heat it up ?

 
What is the_average_power he must use ?

 
You only answered ONE question, I answered both.

 
You failed to show your working despite explicitly being requested in the question that was not for you. This may have highlighted whether you used the thermochemical calorie value of 4.184 as I did, or the International Table calorie value of 4.1868 like Fuzzy used. I assume you used the 4.184 because if you didn't and rounded you would get 6.98 Watts. The question never asked you to round anyway.


 
If this was an exam you would most definitely FAIL!

 
Your input so far in this thread appears to me to show an agenda of community support for Rosemary that does not exist, and to take the heat off when she is asked difficult questions and wishes to avoid answering AT ALL COSTS!

 
Like I said... I SMELL A RAT

 
RM  :)

 

 

 
 
 
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eatenbyagrue

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #826 on: March 10, 2012, 07:02:14 PM »
Quote from: evolvingape on March 10, 2012, 01:24:09 PM

Your input so far in this thread appears to me to show an agenda of community support for Rosemary that does not exist, and to take the heat off when she is asked difficult questions and wishes to avoid answering AT ALL COSTS!

 
Like I said... I SMELL A RAT

 
RM  :)


I am just sick of all the MIB-wannabes trying to suppress the Ainslie technology.  She needs support so she can bring this to market.  This technology is lifechanging for  the world.
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Magluvin

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #827 on: March 10, 2012, 07:36:12 PM »
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #828 on: March 10, 2012, 07:51:19 PM »
Quote from: eatenbyagrue on March 10, 2012, 07:02:14 PM

I am just sick of all the MIB-wannabes trying to suppress the Ainslie technology.  She needs support so she can bring this to market.  This technology is lifechanging for  the world.

LOL - thanks for the concern eatenbyagrue.  Actually I've got nothing to 'bring to the market'.  That's really NOT my interest.  I'm only interested getting this to the academic forum.  Way more important.  That way we can, hopefully, make this over unity study marginally more respectable.  And while it's unlikely that I'd win a popularity contest - I actually prefer the argument.  Bit boring when everyone's on the same page.  I know this from a year or so at Energetic forum.  It's like bathing in honey.  I'd dip into some kind of vicarious dialogue with TK or sundry - just to get something to counteract all that sugar.  Truth is I'm massively entertained by the 'objections'.  I get a bit scared when I see the imbalance associated with some of our posters.  But on the whole - it keeps me on my toes and keeps my boredom at bay.  And I've found that these rather weak counterarguments are as good a way as any to remind our readers about the technology.  So.  There's real value to all their protests.  And I'd be sorry to find approval amongst the most of them.  I regret not having Poynty on board.  Because he's got the rare benefit of a real talent.  But I'd be rather ashamed if I found the most of them supporting me in any way. 

But I am, nonetheless - grateful for the rare evidence of support.  Mainly because I'm impressed by the courage.  You need to be quite brave to stand up to this much orchestrated dislike.  For my part though.  I get a kick out of it.  Not sure that it's healthy reaction.  But it's the truth.  I think I'm possibly guilty of too much self-esteem.  It's my only fault.  LOL

Take good care of yourself eatenbyagrue.  I've been looking at your other posts.  Not a prolific writer - but very succinct.  I wish I could learn that trick.

Kindest regards,
Rosie
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #829 on: March 10, 2012, 08:02:03 PM »
Quote from: Magluvin on March 10, 2012, 07:36:12 PM
I find this very interesting...

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1358.msg21853#msg21853


And my response....

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1358.msg21863#msg21863


Mags

Hi Magsy.  Another one of those brave souls.  I can't get into either link without becoming a member?  Can you post over the text.  I'd be intrigued.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie

I see that the board topic is 'off limits' to me.  It seems that there's another 'hate blog' in the offing.  LOL.  What's new?
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Magluvin

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #830 on: March 10, 2012, 08:04:03 PM »
 ;)
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #831 on: March 10, 2012, 08:15:11 PM »
Quote from: Magluvin on March 10, 2012, 08:04:03 PM
;)

Thanks for posting the text.  Magsy - there's no question that Poynty's 'against' over unity.  And I'm inclined to think that MileHigh may be as well.  LOL.  Peterae tries to put in the odd word in support of this - now and again.  But you're right.  But what's scarey is that I'm not sure there are ANY forums that the owners actively support this.  I think the support is ALWAYS for 'debatable' values.  NEVER for conclusive proof.  I'd give my eye teeth to know why they expend all that energy aimed at so much negativity.

Rosie.
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Magluvin

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #832 on: March 10, 2012, 08:44:17 PM »
I think Stephan is a good guy.  I think when he questions you of some things, you might have a bit of skepticism of his motives. But I believe he is just trying to get some points straight.  In reality, if he has a prize to be awarded, then his rules to obtaining it are solid.

Dont take this badly. ;]
 
Like the request of the 555 timer circuit. Why wont you post it? I would be interested in seeing it also.  Just saying you have covered it, is kinda saying that he has to go back through all of the threads to find it.

Ive had that done to me in requests of previous info. But I dont do that. I most always will repost info again so that all may see easily what they may have missed without having to work hard for it.  ;] After all, it is up to me to prove beyond a shaddow what I am talking about, and if reposting gets things done faster, then I will do it. ;]

I know you have some criteria as to what when and how you reveal  answers to requests, these criteria may be impeding your ability to move forward.

;]

Mags
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poynt99

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #833 on: March 10, 2012, 09:02:16 PM »
What IS your problem magluvin?

Clearly you misunderstood what I said, and now you are trying to make it appear as though I don't support FE research. You've taken this out of context and not posted my reply, which clarifies for you how you should have understood it. Clearly you had an agenda and were looking for anything to use against OUR.

You are wrong. Now, are you going to make this right and post the rest of that conversation?
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #834 on: March 10, 2012, 09:36:42 PM »
Quote from: Magluvin on March 10, 2012, 08:44:17 PM
I think Stephan is a good guy.  I think when he questions you of some things, you might have a bit of skepticism of his motives. But I believe he is just trying to get some points straight.  In reality, if he has a prize to be awarded, then his rules to obtaining it are solid.
Why - if he's a 'good guy' does he take Glen off moderation?  And then allow those posts of his?  Where everyone tries to knock the technology - Glen shouts over the entire thread and his accusations are pure calumny and so far out of line as to be actionable.  Yet Harti does nothing?
 
Quote from: Magluvin on March 10, 2012, 08:44:17 PM
Like the request of the 555 timer circuit. Why wont you post it? I would be interested in seeing it also.  Just saying you have covered it, is kinda saying that he has to go back through all of the threads to find it.
It is NOT my work to post.  I would need to engage one of the collaborators.  And they have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in engaging on these forums.  I've explained this.

Quote from: Magluvin on March 10, 2012, 08:44:17 PM
Ive had that done to me in requests of previous info. But I dont do that. I most always will repost info again so that all may see easily what they may have missed without having to work hard for it.  ;] After all, it is up to me to prove beyond a shaddow what I am talking about, and if reposting gets things done faster, then I will do it. ;]
I have NOT posted details of the work.  There's nothing to find.  I may have posted the screen download.  But can't swear to it.  I've got one waveform that could be right but it shows 3 batteries and - from memory we used two.  Quite apart from which I'm more than willing to do the ONLY test that may prove this conclusively.  One would have thought that it's relatively easy for Prof Jones and/or Poynty to find academics to approve those protocols.  I've done my bit Mags.  Above and beyond.  Why should I do more.  We've posted CONCLUSIVE proof related to measurements.  Where else has any OU claim been as thoroughly reported?  And WHY then is this fact being so HEAVILY discounted.  From where I sit there's an agenda.  Under usual circumstances there would be some acknowledgement.  But all that SCORN?  AND NOTHING ELSE? WHY?

Quote from: Magluvin on March 10, 2012, 08:44:17 PM
I know you have some criteria as to what when and how you reveal  answers to requests, these criteria may be impeding your ability to move forward.
I have NO criteria.  I don't even know what you mean.  The ONLY thing that this thread was restarted for was to challenge Poynty and Prof Jones for their prizes - and that only to assure our readers that our results are DEFINITIVE.  They've both gone to some considerable lengths to deny this.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #835 on: March 10, 2012, 09:52:51 PM »
Quote from: poynt99 on March 10, 2012, 09:02:16 PM
What IS your problem magluvin?

Clearly you misunderstood what I said, and now you are trying to make it appear as though I don't support FE research. You've taken this out of context and not posted my reply, which clarifies for you how you should have understood it. Clearly you had an agenda and were looking for anything to use against OUR.

You are wrong. Now, are you going to make this right and post the rest of that conversation?

Poynty Point,

Are you seriously proposing to advance any kind of belief that you have an interest in Over Unity on THIS thread?  Just look again at your contributions.  From where I sit you have NO argument against our numbers.  Nor have you even attempted to explain that waveform.  There was and is clear evidence that you are more anxious to dismiss the claim than argue it.  And those sad little arguments that you proposed are seriously wanting in scientific justification.  Why are your 'friends' not pointing this out?  Are they colluding?  With your agenda?

Regards
Rosemary

AND WHAT IS THIS NEED TO KEEP ME AND POSSIBLY OTHERS OUT OF YOUR FORUM DISCUSSIONS.  ARE YOU OPEN SOURCE OR WHAT?

AND MORE TO THE POINT - WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO PROMOTE THAT DEFINITIVE TEST.  You KNOW academics - or you claim to know them.  Then ask them to support the require protocols.  I'll define the required.  They only need to endorse it.  SIMPLE.
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #836 on: March 11, 2012, 12:42:05 AM »
I'm so glad there is one of the three faithful readers of Rosemary's that can actually do "MATH" ...... what a relief ......

http://www.overunity.com/11675/another-small-breakthrough-on-our-nerd-technology/msg314918/#msg314918   Reply #820 on: March 10, 2012, 04:41:20 AM


Quote from: eatenbyagrue on March 10, 2012, 07:02:14 PM

I am just sick of all the MIB-wannabes trying to suppress the Ainslie technology.  She needs support so she can bring this to market.  This technology is lifechanging for  the world.

Here is a mathematical problems Rosemary has refused countless times to verify that her summation is "INCORRECT" as "ALL" other OU members here have indicated .....

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http://www.overunity.com/10407/rosemary-ainslie-circuit-demonstration-on-saturday-march-12th-2011/msg292920/#msg292920    Reply #1644 on: June 27, 2011, 04:46:37 AM

Rosemary Ainslie "Quote"

NOW.  Let's look at your 'self-runner' demands.  We have never recharged those batteries - with one exception.  Two caught fire and BOTH were fully recharged.  We've had those batteries since January 2010.  We've been running them since August 2010.  I've now FINALLY checked their rated capacities.  They're 40 ampere hours each.  We've used 6 of them continually since that time.  According to this rating they are each able, theoretically to dissipate 12 volts x 40 amps x 60 seconds x 60 minutes x 1 hour x 6 batteries.  That gives a work potential - a total potential output of 10 368 000 JOULES.

According to what has been carefully established it takes 4.18 Joules to raise 1 gram of water by 1 degree centigrade.  We've taken a little under 900 grams of water to 82 degrees centigrade.  We ran that test for 90 minutes.  Then we upped the frequency and took that water up a further 20 degrees to 104.  We ran that part of the test for 10 minutes.  Ambient was at 16.  Joules = 1 watt per second.  So.  Do the math.  4.18 x 900 grams x (82 - 16) 66 degrees C = 248 292 joules x 90 minutes of the test period =  22 342 280 joules.  Then ADD the last 10 minutes where the water was taken to boil and now you have 4.18 x 900 grams x (104 - 16) 88 degrees C = 331 156 joules per second x 10 minutes = 3 310 560 Joules. Then add those two values 22 342 280 + 3 310 560 = 25.6 Million Joules. All 5 batteries maximum potential output - available for work - is  10.3 Million Joules. In that test alone the battery outperformed its watt hour rating.  And that was just one test.  Now.  Over the 10 month period that those batteries have been running at various outputs - which, when added to the output on just this one test - then I think its safe to say that the evidence is conclusive.  Those batteries have outperformed. They are still at OVER 12 volts EACH.  They are all of them still FULLY CHARGED.
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The challenge being that Rosemary concludes her "MATHEMATICAL DATA" is correct and "REFUSES" to verify the facts as stated in the QUOTE above.

Please, do the math verification of the "TOTAL SUMS" in GREEN as listed above ....

We will then verify "YOUR" findings and "IF" Rosemary is correct.


FuzzyTomCat
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« Last Edit: March 11, 2012, 02:09:06 AM by fuzzytomcat »
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poynt99

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #837 on: March 11, 2012, 02:27:18 AM »
Forget it Magluvin,

We've deleted that thread as well. I've pm'd Stefan advising him to remove your post here.
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #838 on: March 11, 2012, 02:39:05 AM »
Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on March 10, 2012, 09:52:51 PM
Poynty Point,

Are you seriously proposing to advance any kind of belief that you have an interest in Over Unity on THIS thread?

Rosemary, are you ever going to understand what's going on around you? No, I was not making any statement in reference to THIS thread. My comment was in reference to supporting FE research in general, which I DO. RTFP.

Magluvin carelessly saw fit to take a comment I made (which he misunderstood) out of context and post it here with mal-intent. So I had to respond HERE...get it?
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Magluvin

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« Reply #839 on: March 11, 2012, 03:12:51 AM »
Just got off of the phone with my mom. Havnt talked in a couple weeks. Her Yellow Nape 25 yrs old has cancer. Priorities....

Poynt,  the thread is gone, so how can I post it? Was there a problem with it that it needed erasing? If you have a copy, you can post it. But then we would have to say, hmmm, is it now modified? So posting it is useless. ;] Hmm, maybe I have a whole copy. ;]  Maybe I dont. ;]

Now, can you tell us if I do or I dont? ;]

Poynt, when I read that, and the thread, I can see the attitude towards John. I dont see it as respectful. Now that the thread is gone, I cant show any of it, no more than I have already right? ;]

And with Rose, If, IF you know she is wrong about all of this, then why is it that you continuously follow her to ridicule and discredit her, when you have done it all before? For how long now? What do you requirer from her, in this lifetime, that you will finally be at peace with this? Obsessed? Little voices?

If you had the manners and show of professional attitude such as the Prof in all of this, I and some others would not be taking a neck jerk second glance at what is happening here. 3 readers, get real.

Is that so Stephan? Only 3 readers of this thread?   

Ya know what Poynt, all this bashing has me thinking maybe she has something. Like why are these guys always after Rose with forks in tongue?  Maybe thats the only reason you, TK, Mh, kitty cats and the others are always spending THIS amount of time doing so.  And so little time trying to actually work TOWARDS FE possibilities. Whether Rose is right or wrong, all of THIS, years of negativity toward an FE hopeful, can discourage others from the idea that FE possibly exists. Or do you disagree on that?  When have any of you guys worked on a project in actual hopes of FE, and not just to disprove, ? I dont see anything.

If not for that reason, then it is just fun for you all. That will get you lots of respect. Keep up the great work fellas, were all rootin fer ya.

Now to Rose.....     next post....

Mags


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