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Rosemary Ainslie

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another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« on: November 09, 2011, 03:15:50 AM »
Dear all,

I've been obliged to 'start a new topic' as it seems that every single thread where I subscribed - has been flamed to death and locked.  The good news is that they have not been deleted.

And there's more good news.  You guys have all called for us to run our batteries to the duration.  That experiment would have taken too long and the test itself too expensive to monitor.

However.  The guys have gone about this differently.  They flattened 3 of our batteries by running lights off them.  When the lights 'went out' was when the batteries were considered flat which was at 10.05 volts or thereby.  Immediately thereafter they ran our resistor element on our usual test.  Not only did we get the same level of oscillation but precisely the same level of heat dissipated - related to that oscillation.  Which was proof that the energy in that oscillation is indeed NOT coming from the battery supply.

We have long argued that the battery is a passive component in the circuit.  I'll give a link to that paper as soon as I've found it and presuming that this post is allowed.  Here's hoping.

This is quite exciting.  It puts paid to the problems associated with flat batteries.  And more to the point - it's eloquent proof that the voltage from the battery is used without any attendant supply of current flow. 

And for those who are interested - we are still awaiting word from our editor as to whether or not that paper is to be published.  Fingers still crossed and we're all still busy spreading the news.

 ;D

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Here's the link to the second part of the two part paper - which deals with the thesis that requires this effect.

http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/2011/08/140-heres-second-paper.html

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 03:31:56 AM »
Hey Rosie  ;]

that sounds like great news!  ;]

Was there any change in the batteries after running the test?

Good to see ya back.  ;]

Mags

Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 03:34:54 AM »
Hey Rosie  ;]

that sounds like great news!  ;]

Was there any change in the batteries after running the test?

Good to see ya back.  ;]

Magsy - always a pleasure to see you there.  No.  The voltage stays the same.  But they're going to try this on faster frequencies to test it more fully.  The point is that the resistor is showing some hefty wattage dissipation - which is extraordinary.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Mags

Magluvin

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 03:47:21 AM »
Hey Rose

Well I really hope this works out for you.  ;]

Gotoluc is in S Africa (still I believe).  Poynt asked him to stop by to see you if he can.  But I think he is far from you. Maybe next year. ;]

Best wishes on this one.  Ill be around, and around, and...  ;]

Mags

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 03:54:08 AM »
Hey Rose

Well I really hope this works out for you.  ;]

Gotoluc is in S Africa (still I believe).  Poynt asked him to stop by to see you if he can.  But I think he is far from you. Maybe next year. ;]

Best wishes on this one.  Ill be around, and around, and...  ;]

Mags

Why did I not hear of this sooner?  I could have gone to Goto if required.  I'm a big fan of his.  If he's in SA he's reachable.

And I too, 'stick around' Magsy.   ;D  Those trolls never quite manage to kill all this good news.  I see much is happening all over the place.  Grand.  Long may it last.  Remember how suddenly that Berlin wall collapsed.  It became irrelevant - IN A MOMENT.  That's what's going to happen to all our 'free energy' evidence.  They'll just suddenly become very acceptable - and very delectable.  But we're not quite there.  But every bit helps.

As ever,
Rosie

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Deleted 'hopes' and added 'evidence'.  It's more to the point.   ;D

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 04:08:58 AM »
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Not only did we get the same level of oscillation but precisely the same level of heat dissipated - related to that oscillation.  Which was proof that the energy in that oscillation is indeed NOT coming from the battery supply.

We have long argued that the battery is a passive component in the circuit.

Rosie,
The above words jumped out at me for reasons I can't get into right now. Suffice it to say that they confirm my long-held belief that this was possible. Great to see you back in action. Looking forward to your posts.
Bob

Rosemary Ainslie

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 04:49:32 AM »
Rosie,
The above words jumped out at me for reasons I can't get into right now. Suffice it to say that they confirm my long-held belief that this was possible. Great to see you back in action. Looking forward to your posts.
Bob

Thanks Bob.  But it's probably only temporary.  The trolls are bound to find me - sooner or later.  And it's their mission to close down all my threads and all this good news.   But while I can - I do as needs must.  But the news is, indeed, all good.  Just we cannot get word from our editors as to the status of that paper.  Still waiting. But somehow the news is spreading.  Which is always a good thing.  And it's certainly not only on our own NERD technology.  Plenty of evidence - and all grist to the mill.  Just so wonderful.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 03:34:28 PM »
Guys,

I now have a little more information here.  The heat dissipated was not measured.  That's to be done today.  Nor could they adjust the frequency as they were using a 555 single mosfet in the Q2 position as it relates to the schematic in the paper.  In other words it was a continuous oscillation with the applied negative signal from the 555.  The resistor was, however too hot to handle - therefore it must have been in excess of 45 degrees or thereby.  That means too that it was upwards of 8 watts.  They'll firm up on these numbers sometime today.  Also.  NOTA BENE - the battery voltage was too low to 'light' a standard light.  Yet it makes no difference to the amplitude of that oscillation - nor to the efficiency with which it dissipates heat.  But there was no evidence of a recharge in the battery.  However, and as ever, nor was there evidence of discharge.  Clearly the batteries' contribution is passive - at best.  That's been our suggestion from the get go.  However we've seen a slight rise in battery voltage at high frequencies.  It will be a bonus if the present 'flat' condition of the battery can increase in voltage.

What is significant is that if the batteries are able to secure that perpetuated imbalance in potential difference - then clearly that's their only required contribution.  In other words it seems to add to or to subtract from the potential difference at the load - which then drives that oscillation.  I'll see if I can extrapolate the appropriate from our paper that covers this.  For some reason this does not copy over.  But it's covered in the first three para's under conclusion.  I'll add that link again.

It's all very interesting.
Regards,
Rosemary


http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/2011/08/140-heres-second-paper.html
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Actually I've finally managed to copy it over.  Here it is.

The voltages across the battery and RSHUNT are at 180 degrees in anti-phase indicating that the battery is charged and discharged depending on the directional flow of current. When the full oscillation amplitude is established, then the counter-clockwise current is seen to peak when the battery voltage is approximately double its rated capacity. And, correspondingly, the clockwise current peaks when the battery voltage approximates zero (Fig 3). If the CEMF from inductive circuit components, including RL1 and the wire, are in fact the energy supply sources driving this oscillation, then it appears that the amount of energy that it is able to generate is somehow related to and, possibly, indirectly determined by, the amount of potential difference at the battery. This can be explained as the current that is induced from the oscillation, adds to or subtracts from the potential difference at the supply. It thereby imposes the battery supply’s innate imbalance into each phase, which increases the potential difference available to the circuit to drive that oscillation.

Effectively, therefore, the battery primary supply represents the only component on the circuit that has an intrinsic charge imbalance. Therefore at each zero crossing, which is the point when the current entirely discharges the potential difference across the circuit material, then the voltage across the battery moves to its average voltage which, unlike the circuit components, is always greater than zero. Therefore too, the CEMF will add to or subtract from that battery average depending on the applied voltage and direction of current flow. This, in turn, thereby imposes a greater potential difference at the battery than its rated capacity.

A capacitor has no retained potential difference after a discharge of its energy. Therefore, to test whether this retained potential difference is a required condition to enable the oscillation, capacitors were applied to the circuit during operation when the oscillation was fully established. The batteries were then disconnected leaving the capacitors in series with the circuit and the oscillation then collapsed to a zero voltage. This evidence may support the conclusion that the retained potential difference at the primary supply source is required, if not entirely responsible, for driving this oscillation. Which, in turn, points to the need for any applications of this technology that are either restricted to battery supply sources or, if a grid supply is used, that the circuit is applied directly in series with that supply source thereby being able to access the potential difference at that supply.



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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2011, 10:54:12 PM »
Hello Rosemary,

All past issues aside I enjoyed this news, seems a more scientific and respectful approach is being adopted this time, good to see, and be a part of :)

(Trolls stay away please)!

I have a few questions:

Would it be possible to run a test on 1 - 6 battery banks applying a Fibonacci sequence (amongst others) to test runs (multiple implications) and comparing the detailed variable precise recorded results in a nice graph (s) ?

If voltage remains constant under load with batteries, and yet capacitor voltage testing trends to zero does it suggest the mechanical-energetic mass of the batteries is critical to maintaining a flow positive excess pressure. ? And if so, does this support your previous claim that the mass of the batteries is absolutely essential to achieving the oscillation event ?

For the record, on this, I think your absolutely correct :)

My final question, and I must admit also an indulgence, is a simple low cost proposition...

Place a single knackered out old car battery in a crappy old falling down shed, stick your circuit on it, and let it run. Place the heating element in a bucket of water to maintain safe operating temperatures, and your heat-sink provides your cup of tea once a week when you check and record the variables, hydrated only if you condense the steam vapor that is... also I would enjoy some fireworks stacked floor to ceiling in the shed :)

Cost you one cheap shed, one cheap car battery, one circuit, one heater element, one bucket and some water... + cuppa tea brewing facilities (very important ;))

If the shed burns down gotta go investigate... If the reports come in regularly and accurately for evermore... you really got something... and a nice cuppa tea to discuss it over with your team!

Potential difference...

RM ;)


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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 04:41:58 AM »
Guys,

A few more delays here.  The effort is being made to get all this information readable on a standard oscilloscope.  Apparently this is doable.  We'll see.

Also.  For those that can do this - please check out that configuration on simulated software.  As has been pointed out you do not need that Q-array.  Just use Q2 - per the schematic - and add a diode across the switch.  Then apply a negative charge to the gate of Q2.  It should show that same waveform - sinusoidal - crossing zero which is typical of the oscillation.  The point is this.  There is no explanation for the current that moves 'clockwise' through the circuit.  In terms of conventional understandings the current flow - above zero - should represent a discharge from the battery supply.  This is the point.  How come it is discharging when there is no path for that discharge of that current through the switch?  In other words the circuit is 'open'?

This is the real anomaly that we're dealing with.  Simulation software programs allow for it.  I would love to know how come?  Unless the transistor is compromised and - in fact - stays closed.  But it doesn't.  There's nothing wrong with those MOSFETS.

And with reference to RM's post - I am tired of confronting that 'green eyed monster'.  Please be informed.  We have NOTHING that confronts conventional science.  If we did - then we would not be able to replicate this so easily on all that software and on the three or four circuits that the guys have now put together.  Nor does the thesis represent a departure from standard physics.  So.  What's new?  Indeed there's nothing new.  It is very important that you understand this.  The circuit is just one of many, many ways to prove that electromotive force is generative.  In other words back electromotive force is the result of generated and not stored energy. 

This should be of very real interest to anyone who's advancing clean green.  Just remember that time is running out.  We really need this technology.  It's understandable that there are those who seem to dislike me.  But my popularity is NOT the issue.  The technology is.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Here's where I think we at.
http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/2011/11/180-golly-i-think-this-may-be-verging.html

And here's a little something for our dear trolls

http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/2011/11/182-soft-underbelly-of-forum-and-indeed.html
« Last Edit: November 10, 2011, 07:11:30 AM by Rosemary Ainslie »

Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 07:05:56 AM »
Dear all,

Just a quick update.  The circuit is now being run off the functions generator.  But the heat dissipated has been increased to 73 degrees from a previous 50 degrees - or thereby.  They're now measuring the heat output.

Their objective - at this stage - is to tweak the offset to a setting that will induce an increase in the heat dissipated to that runaway number that we got when we got water to boil.  You must bear in mind that they're trying to manage all this to forge a way of replicating the test without the use of that beautiful Le Croy. And they're doing this on 'flat' batteries' to keep evidence that the energy is not from that supply. This so that anyone who wants to - can replicate.  But it's still working in the dark - and thus far they've only found out how to increase the amount of energy dissipated.  And, obviously, that they can see it on their standard oscilloscope.  One needs to see that oscillation which is rather crucial to the argument if not entirely necessary to these over unity results.

I'm not going to post here until those tests are completed.  It could be a week or so - or more.  Meanwhile it is very clear that the voltage from those flat batteries do not make any material difference to the amount of heat dissipated.  This is clearly an energy that his being 'liberated' - dare I say it - from the material of the resistor.  Otherwise it's from our environment - and that argument dribbles to death for its want of logic.

I'll continue to post on my blog - for those very, very few who may be interested.  lol

Kindest regards.  By the way - check out the thread on Rossi's technology.  It's good news indeed.
Rosemary

Here's my blog link.
http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/

And for the purists - here's yet another link to our paper.  Please read it.  It does not conflict with the standard model and I'm assured that it's relatively easy to understand. It just changes the perspective - ever so slightly - to explain what is otherwise not explicable.

http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/2011/08/140-heres-second-paper.html

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and changed 'every' to 'ever'.   ;D

Just a small note here.  I go to some considerable lengths to detail changes to my posts as, among too many accusations to be listed here - I'm also accused of 'changing' my posts.  I do.  Often.  But only because my typing is very much a victim of my poor eyesight. 

Anyway.  Onwards and upwards.  As ever,
R
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« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 07:52:00 AM by Rosemary Ainslie »

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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 02:05:38 PM »
I thought your blog was very well writen. I dont understand why you concern youself with trolls. They are a part of life. Free will does not come with a compass . 

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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 04:20:32 PM »
Excellent article! You tell what has been hidden for a LONG time.  This is what our text books have deleted since the early 1900's.   Maxwell knew of this but they shortened his work into sniveling easy to learn hogwash.  Thank you Lady Rose.

Rosemary Ainslie

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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 06:44:28 AM »
Hope and Doug - thanks for the vote of confidence.

And to those who read this thread - I apologise for doing this again - but here's yet another link to the blog.  I am way more intrigued with this cold fusion technology than our own - at the moment.  This because it's over unity - 'IN THE BAG' - ready to sell.  It is just wonderful news for us all.  Just read the first two posts in that blog.

Kindest and best as ever,
Rosemary

http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/

Rosemary Ainslie

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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2011, 05:25:38 PM »
Hi Guys,

I battled to find this thread. I finally manged to write a post.  And then I lost it.  Most irritating.  >:(

Anyway.  I only started this thread because I wanted to keep some evidence in the public eye that over unity was with us.  Alive and well - so to speak.  That and to show Poynty et al that I am NOT banned.  The work continues - in the background - but it's not being done by me.  It's those brave collaborators who fit these tests in when and as they can from the time they can spare from earning a living.  And that time is always constrained.  I'm sure you all know the feeling.

Anyway.  The bar has been set - with Rossi's evidence.  It makes our own work rather irrelevant - for now.  I see it as possibly being required if Rossi's technology gets mired in Court battles between him and any competing interests.  Because we're actually doing the same thing - but, on our part, we're using rather more prosaic applications of the electric current than Rossi.  But they both generate the required heat signatures.  Golly.  I've just re-read this.  It sounds so boastful. Obviously we're nowhere near Rossi's level of development. 

I need to mention this.  While I wholeheartedly support any work towards over unity - I have some, as yet, unspoken reserves about the efficacy of all this applied to electric motors.  I just don't see it.  I'd love to be proved wrong.  I think it's there however.  But I think it needs the construct of a magnetic monopole.  Doable.  But way outside our own budget as I think the magnets need to be cast.  I think there's a thread about this somewhere here - but I don't have the appetite to look for it.  Anyway the work is definitely open sourced - so it can't be 'owned' so to speak.  And more to the point, once that thing is manufactured then I think we'll find that 'perpetual motion' thing.  In fact I suspect it'll need some applied energy to stop that spin.  Which also means that if there's any validity to our Inductive Laws, and obviously there is, lol, then we should be able to generate a perpetual current. 

In any event.  Here's the link to the blogspot.  I'll not continue this thread unless it's ever required.  And to those who have done so - thanks for reading here.  Meanwhile - think dark energy.  I'm entirely satisfied that this will be acknowledged in the near future.  And will be seen for what it is - which is all from the 'dark' force.  Or, - more to the point - tje 'magnetic' force. 

It's a wonderful future that Rossi and others are making for us.  I just haven't stopped smiling for weeks now.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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Here's that post in my blogspot.

http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/2011/11/195-truth-to-tell.html