It would be nice to have some encouragement

that was a whole other thread . But i will do whatever i choose for as long as i can do it .

do something besides take up space and air ... ok?

I have threatened to leave a board and i have been banned from more than one . I started the other thread after this one and when i got the first heckle I said what i said .

wow, you really put me in my place ... let me tuck my tail between my legs and run away ... no , let me beg you all for your infinite bullshit !

If someone comes here looking for "free energy" what do they get? I can go down the street and get a Fresnel lens from and old t.v. my neighbor threw out but been there done that. i could build a Joe Cell and pretend that it will help my gas mileage among other things here and there to supplement and exploit existing energy technologies to at most become a thrifty energy miser. So a working Bessler wheel or the like far exceeds anything posted in this forum and/or others because that promise is the fuel-less shaft that turns and not just some kind of add on to something else.How can anyone pretend that something so significant should be treated with the same respect as this whole ball of wax? There is a good nature here...I am not saying that the heart is not in the right place.I am just saying that there is no comparison on Earth to Bessler's alleged (however well documented and proven to me me anyway) Perpetual Mobile.I am his biggest fan and perhaps the person on this Earth that if he were alive i could ask him a few questions that he would be thrilled to answer.For those who don't believe that P.M. is even possible let me now give you some information that doesn't quite prove the possibility but may point you in the right direction. Man creates .Human achievement has only been limited by belief and time itself.What is impossible one day is possible the next.It doesn't matter how many laws scientists come up with to make a name for themselves...there is no law in the universe...it is not even guaranteed to exist,much less abide by laws.All the made up scientific words are just that.The information,just like the money and gold is coveted by the rich.Enter Johann Earnst Elias Bessler , a man who discovered a jewel which he thought and most of us agree was more sought after than gold and he tried to sell it as such.But the world mocked him and laughed at his accomplishment and thought him a fraud among other things.There are lots of lessons to learn from Bessler's story and his life.His machine remains to this day a subject of controversy.One point of Bessler's  is that evil and greed have kept his machine unknown.I have taken it upon myself to give a message to the world in this case.Bessler was and honest Christian man meaning that he marveled at the world and all it's wonder's and beauty and he had something/someone to thank for it,namely God.All things under the Sun,to him,were created by God.And so he attributed his achievement to God.I am not trying to convert anyone  or anything like that as I myself am on the fence at times about such things.What i am trying to do is to explain that it doesn't hurt a thing to believe this man or his claims or even to take the same to be your own.I did it and now I believe that because i did I may be the closest person to finding out how the machine actually operated.As it stands now,if my views are correct,it had nothing to do with thermodynamics in that Bessler simply built a machine based on known mechanical principles that maintained an imbalance in motion.I have a very clear idea of how that can be achieved. But that's not important and that's not the point either. It has broken my heart to be received in a way much like Bessler himself was in life,on these boards.We are looking for answers.But if there are no answers then why do we look? Bessler was a man,unlike some think,that did not let his creation die with him. I may be on the very brink of it myself or it may be one of you...but I know that someone will discover it again.The question remains then if Bessler was correct in saying that his invention has been,like all truth possibly,raged against and hated by "some" from the very beginning.If i had a running wheel and attributed it to Bessler and God would any of you have second thoughts about God?Perhaps now I have touched on what this is really all about to me,and Bessler's true concern also.I am taking things at my own pace and since i am no longer a member at Besslerwheel.com (booted) my nerves have calmed a bit.Please don't take this as self promotion or anything like that.I'm not picking a fight.I'm just relaying my idea of what is required to solve this mystery.Any of you can carry the same torch as I do.There are a lot of things worse than this to be foolish about.There is something very good in this story for anyone who really wants to know about it.