Lumen
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Ok, I'm going to try to describe what I believe is the minimum configuration of Tom's 2 sphere magnet motor.

You need a turntable that moves very easily and two sphere magnets and some thin brass rod.
Suspend above the exact center of the turntable, one sphere magnet with north directly up(vertical), attached to the brass rod that is in turn connected to a stationary mount. The rod needs to be just long enough to have some flex which is in turn dependent on the size of magnets used.

Now attach to other sphere magnet to the turntable with north and south on the horizontal plane with both poles an equal distance from the magnet on the rod. This causes a twisting force on the suspended magnet and flexes the rod moving the suspended magnet off center of the turntable.

Now, with the magnet on the turntable at a height that matches the suspended magnet and twisted to 90 degrees of the suspended magnet, no repel or attraction will occur, but if the magnet is twisted slightly more or less then an attraction or repel exists. Remember, you lost some twist because the magnet on the rod twisted some in flexing the rod, so you need to adjust the magnet on the turntable slightly to re-calibrate the neutral point.

Because the suspended magnet is now off center of the turntable, the table will rotate from any attraction or repel to the suspended magnet on the rod.

Way too simple!
I think the fire is started, so now we can all watch it burn!


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Lumen
I don't even have a good excuse like Forest
But  ,Is there any way you could post a drawing?
This design has been in my head as  a stroke of genious ....and your design Begs for a closer look and trial test/experiment.
Please??
@Airstriker
So hows Tings??

Thanks
Chet
Oh
BTW
I hope you fellows have been watching here

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11303.msg298128#new

When iot rains it pours sometimes!!

Hi Lumen,

Don't be sure that you are incorrect just yet.

Keep in mind that it is DIFFICULT to identify poles on spheres and then, keep them
orientated that way.

I followed your description and thought, this isn't half bad.

Certainly, gravity, with Tom's first incarnation is easier to picture but, all of my large ring
magnets appear to have spots (areas) that are not consistent. (taken from large loud speakers).

Persist, I think you will be surprised.

Penno

Lumen
I agree with Penno,
One question,why Brass?,We see the Magnet and Copper have a "Huge" Lenz Issue [the sphere in the copper/aluminum tube drop],Brass Not that far away from Copper!

Probably a silly point at this point ,But?

Chet

I just used brass because it is easy to get and easy to work with. If the device ran,  the brass would eventually fail from the constant flexing, but could be easily switched out for something like carbon fiber rod.

The device suffers from the same problem as another device I tried that used the Earths magnetic field. torque exists but work is "force x distance" and if the distance never changes then no work is done.

Still something there, so I will work on it for a bit and see if anything turns up.

The design was originally based on the main description of the gravity device, but after the two sphere magnet concept I adapted it to test the theory.
The first pic is the cad rendering and the other two show the original configuration and the two magnet setup.
With some evaluation of the two magnet concept, I'm thinking that it may be possible that the ball joint at the top may not work smoothly under the high pressure of the large magnets and now I'm thinking of trying the flexible rod idea just to make sure.

 

Man,I'm getting old. too much complicated for me. I will try with computer fan idea.Magnetic wind ole !

FELLAHS!!
You need to ,Must ............Have to,
Look here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7982-muller-generator-replication-romerouk-42.html
Excerpt

The “transmission time” viewpoint allows us view the second assumption of Newton’s Third Law as an assumption of absolute time (or absolute simultaneity), if the action is at a distance. This assumption continues despite the reality that the “reaction” of a body to an externally applied force can not be simultaneous with the initial application (the “action”) of the external force. This profound restriction on Newton’s Law brings time into the equation -- a restriction which becomes the critical factor.

It should be noted that this concept of a non-simultaneous “reaction time” to an applied force (whatever the nature of that force is considered to be) is applicable not only in mechanics, but also in electromagnetism and other fields of physics. A sudden surge (an “action”) of current along a conductor, for example, will also result in an equal and opposite reaction -- but again not simultaneously. Likewise a rotating shaft surrounded by permanent magnets arranged so as to impel the rotation will encounter an equal and opposite magnetic force which will brake the rotation -- after a time delay, or what might be called the “Critical Action Time” (CAT)!

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Holy Guacamole Boyz N girls [not sure we have any girls]

The posts of the last few days at the above site!!!
Cranky Pants Unveiled,[well that might be "scary"]

No ,its more like Now I get it
And so will you !!

Chet
PS
A discusion thread has been reignited here
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=827.msg16226;topicseen#msg16226

And at this Forum here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11312.msg298257#new

WOW
Toranarod
Elias
Shadesz
And Many others............

Tom
Your design won't leave my head!So many unique concepts

Will you be sharing more infO ?

It's like a huge brain twister!!

Thanks
Chet                              /