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Author Topic: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom  (Read 92868 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #180 on: August 21, 2012, 06:58:43 AM »
I asked you,
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And have you successfully refuted anything I've said, with facts, checkable references or demonstrations of your own?


And you answered,
  tk,
 you must really need attention, according to wikipedia, perpetual motion is not considered possible by what is currently known. Try telling me something new.
 As for Bessler, what I have been pursuing is a difficult build and only uses accepted principles of engineering. It is the manner in which he used them that is "new".
 
Bye tk

In other words.... no, you have not.

You are the one seeking attention, not me.  You are only proving the old adage: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

I've fulfilled my obligation to the truth, by showing you where it is. It is entirely your choice to ignore it... but you cannot refute it. Years from now, when you are surrounded by your failed attempts at reproducing what you believe Orffreyus showed... you will think back upon this little conversation of ours.

Build, test, do the math... if you can.

Bye Jim.

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Offline forest

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #181 on: August 21, 2012, 12:51:06 PM »
Well...we could agree that Tesla was educated man also. Should we assume he was a madman in his later years ? He saw universe as simple machine with mechanical forces and electrical forces being the same longitudinal waves except in different medium. He opposed relativity theory and the origin of radioactivity as a disintegration of atoms.
He thought that there is no energy in particle exacept from this taken from medium, which means that even at absolute zero degrees (F) ether is flowing into mass giving it energy. It's quite simple if we agree that every mass in universe is connected together by a omnipresent field and vibrations of it. Every mass is tranceiver. The disturbance of steady receive-transmit cycle is what we saw as a movement or change in momentum.
I believe we soon will see the scientifice articles about radioactivity cause by fluctuation of Higgs  field or something like that which will confirm Tesla statements - something is striking into atoms and only those with precise vibration frequency respond by disintegration.

When I was young I was fascinated by Einstein theory of general relativity and wanted hard to complete it with quantum field theory, but that seemed impossible. Now I think relativity is a nice trick like the shadows of flame on walls in Platon cave...

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #182 on: August 21, 2012, 03:45:00 PM »
  forrest,
 I've read some on physics. I found out when they got to Higgs, I didn't know as much as I thought. It could be with Einstein and his relativity that why people like them is his relativity is they show how most thinbs work together.
 I tbink with me, I understand mechanical behavior better and got schooling that helps me with this.
 I've read about Tesla and Edison. Some people find it difficult to believe some countries still use D.C. current because it's cheaper. When Tesla thought of the A.C. genenerator, it was said to be impossible because electrical current can not ne ran 90 degrees out of phase. As it turns out it cycles more consistently than d.c. which allows for advanced electronics but also suffers less entropy over long distances.

 Jim

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #182 on: August 21, 2012, 03:45:00 PM »
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #183 on: August 22, 2012, 10:38:26 AM »
Guys... let me remind you the subject: "New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom". Please stop this bullshit. Thx in advance.

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #184 on: August 22, 2012, 11:19:30 AM »
Also did some math (as kindly asked) for my design - should work as charm ;] Only second and third Newton's law. As said - very simple. The result = constant acceleration. But as always, I could be wrong.
Will build it first then post results - with math ;] Why not now? I don't like not working bullshit ;]

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #184 on: August 22, 2012, 11:19:30 AM »
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #185 on: August 22, 2012, 11:31:25 AM »
  airstriker,
 the entire time I've worked on Bessler, I've put up with massive crap and for the most part was on my own, Put up with crap like tinselkoala saying I have to refute what he says. like ab hammer, he probably has no schooling with anything to do with mechanical engineering,
yet working on Bessler has given me something to do rather than dwell on the 3 or 4 years I've been dealing with problems because of complications from treatment for cancer.
 there are a lot of jerks and they have nothing better to do than bother other people because they're either bored or not as smart as they think they are. all I can say is get used to it.

thought I would add that this is the gravity section of the forum.
between this and the pressure differential system, maybe Stefan needs to make a new gravity section.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 01:57:44 PM by johnny874 »

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #186 on: August 22, 2012, 04:38:50 PM »
I would simply put this thread to magnetic section (if possible) - Tom confirmed that gravity is not needed.

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #186 on: August 22, 2012, 04:38:50 PM »
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Offline jsr

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #187 on: September 21, 2012, 06:39:09 PM »
Hi everyone.

I'm wondering if principles that allow sailing against the wind are useful to discover how to make this device work.

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #188 on: September 22, 2012, 01:03:43 AM »
Everyone, 
The true story.
There is no patent for Tom's device.   It did not work.  From what I understand,  the device was like a magnetic spring, that when pushed together, it would take off very fast and spin around and around like a dog chasing its tail.   What made it work (for a short period of time only)  was the use of a one-way bearing.  But what really made it work was the fact the one-way bearing was slipping on its shaft,  yet making the spin short lived and appear that all that was needed was a better shaft, so as not to slip.  Once a new (and better) shaft that was provided by a very nice contributor was installed, the device no longer worked or was spinning as before. Thus, no more posts were made due to the fact it did not work.  Tom has been a great contributor to OU experiments and sometimes gets a little excited.  So please be understanding for his over stating some perceived facts or observations.     
 

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #188 on: September 22, 2012, 01:03:43 AM »
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #189 on: September 22, 2012, 01:21:19 AM »
Maw
Thanks for the update ,as well as the sad story.
 
I've been known to over react myself sometimes,so I can't throw any stones.
Thx
Chet
 
 
 

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #190 on: September 22, 2012, 04:24:22 AM »
Hi Maw,
 
Thanks for the update.
 
After all, we are only human. I hope Tom continues in search for FE.
 
I'm guessing you are the nice contributer - good on you.
 
Regards, Penno
 
p.s. Tell Tom, if I were him, I would not be ashamed to come back on the forum.
 

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #190 on: September 22, 2012, 04:24:22 AM »
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