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Slovenia

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Cosmic Orgasm (Thanks Power To Be)
« Reply #450 on: April 08, 2011, 11:18:29 PM »
Thanks Power To Be for the heads up on the Cosmic Orgasm.  I just ran into your post on referencing that again today and looked it up and found a useful book on the subject by Barry Carter.  It's very cool stuff indeed.  Thanks again for giving me that lead!!

For the rest of you, if you are interested, Barry Carter has several books on Ormus and the Cosmic Orgasm.  It may sound a little weird, but I found it very enlightening.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2011, 01:27:16 AM by Slovenia »

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Joule Thief Light Replication
« Reply #451 on: April 09, 2011, 03:01:13 PM »
Here's a link to a Joule Thief Light weekend project for those of you who want to utilize the pierce circuit with jt light for frequency control like Power To Be did.

Joule Thief Light Replication
http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/joulethief

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Need Help With Pierce Circuit & Joule Thief Light)
« Reply #452 on: April 09, 2011, 10:56:20 PM »
I'm trying to put together the pierce circuit and joule thief light right now.  I could use some help from some of you electrical guys.  I don't want to screw this project up and Power To Be wasn't specific about what specific subcomponents to get for our pierce circuit.  He did mention the various components, but tell us any specifics about those subcomponents.  Well, I need to know what specific types of subcomponents to get for the following:

Joule Thief Light (Specific Subcomponents):

transistor  (Okay, have specific value of 2n3904 for it)

diode
#1)  Which specific diode would be best suited for this project?

Rectifier?
Power To Be mentioned needing  rectifier too.  This must be the diode he is referring too here?
Cell
#2)  What specific battery would be best for the application?

Toroid
#3)  What specific size of ferrite ring should be used for optimum results?
#4)  What size of wire should be used when winding the toroid for optimum results?

Resistor  (okay, have specific value of 1K for it)

Pierce Circuit (Specific Subcomponents):

Crystal Oscillator = (X1)
#1)  Which specific crystal oscillator?

Resistor = (R1)
#2)  Which specific resistor?

NOT Gate = (U1)
#3)  Does it matter which NOT gate?

Capacitor = (C1) & (C2)
#4)  Which specific capacitors are needed?

#5)  What size wire would be best suited for this project?

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Re: Need Help With Pierce Circuit & Joule Thief Light)
« Reply #453 on: April 10, 2011, 07:42:47 PM »
I'm trying to put together the pierce circuit and joule thief light right now.  I could use some help from some of you electrical guys.  I don't want to screw this project up and Power To Be wasn't specific about what specific subcomponents to get for our pierce circuit.  He did mention the various components, but tell us any specifics about those subcomponents.  Well, I need to know what specific types of subcomponents to get for the following:

Joule Thief Light (Specific Subcomponents):

transistor  (Okay, have specific value of 2n3904 for it)

diode
#1)  Which specific diode would be best suited for this project?

Rectifier?
Power To Be mentioned needing  rectifier too.  This must be the diode he is referring too here?
Cell
#2)  What specific battery would be best for the application?

Toroid
#3)  What specific size of ferrite ring should be used for optimum results?
#4)  What size of wire should be used when winding the toroid for optimum results?

Resistor  (okay, have specific value of 1K for it)

Pierce Circuit (Specific Subcomponents):

Crystal Oscillator = (X1)
#1)  Which specific crystal oscillator?

Resistor = (R1)
#2)  Which specific resistor?

NOT Gate = (U1)
#3)  Does it matter which NOT gate?

Capacitor = (C1) & (C2)
#4)  Which specific capacitors are needed?

#5)  What size wire would be best suited for this project?

You really should use pot's in place of your resistors for the tuning it will make you life a lot easier. The JT is already everything you need n a circuit to replicate the correct frequency. Do you have a scope?

-Altrez

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Re: Need Help With Pierce Circuit & Joule Thief Light)
« Reply #454 on: April 10, 2011, 08:36:39 PM »
You really should use pot's in place of your resistors for the tuning it will make you life a lot easier. The JT is already everything you need n a circuit to replicate the correct frequency. Do you have a scope?

-Altrez
Right, frequency is easily controlled with cap and coil, just like in TT, where each coil is tuned with matching cap. Horizontal arrangement produces consistent electrostatic effect needed.

I have produce amazing ionization of atomize water with a differential  exciter  running at over 5 milion cycles per second.

Altrez,
Did you look into zinc sulphide for your project?.

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Re: Need Help With Pierce Circuit & Joule Thief Light)
« Reply #455 on: April 10, 2011, 08:38:38 PM »
Hi Altrez,

Great to hear from you!!

I have a scope but I have no idea how to use it yet.  I knew I would be needing one so I got one.

I have the cheap pond fogger too, but the circuit is the only thing holding me up right now.  I have a donated lawn mower to test it on too.  So, we're trying to show Power To Be some progress. 

Thanks for the extra information.  I'm not an electrical guy at all and need help in this area.  The guy who usually helps me says this is all a waste of time and won't help me.  So, I need help from another source. 

Best Regards,
Slovenia

You really should use pot's in place of your resistors for the tuning it will make you life a lot easier. The JT is already everything you need n a circuit to replicate the correct frequency. Do you have a scope?

-Altrez

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Re: Need Help With Pierce Circuit & Joule Thief Light)
« Reply #456 on: April 10, 2011, 08:50:51 PM »
Thanks Power To Be!!  I didn't see your post.  You must have posted while I was writing back to Altrez.

Right, frequency is easily controlled with cap and coil, just like in TT, where each coil is tuned with matching cap. Horizontal arrangement produces consistent electrostatic effect needed.

I have produce amazing ionization of atomize water with a differential  exciter  running at over 5 milion cycles per second.

Altrez,
Did you look into zinc sulphide for your project?.

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Re: Need Help With Pierce Circuit & Joule Thief Light)
« Reply #457 on: April 10, 2011, 10:35:14 PM »
Right, frequency is easily controlled with cap and coil, just like in TT, where each coil is tuned with matching cap. Horizontal arrangement produces consistent electrostatic effect needed.

I have produce amazing ionization of atomize water with a differential  exciter  running at over 5 milion cycles per second.

Altrez,
Did you look into zinc sulphide for your project?.

Yes I have thank you for sharing. Its very interesting, the IR effects that is. It would seem that it could be used in a lot of different ways once someone understood wave lengths =) "Again sono opened my eyes to all this"

could this be a 24/7 power source? <-- that's a hint guys.

Question for the group as I am sure Power to be already understands this:

what happens when you take  a 1 THz frequency collection crystal an attach a ground potential to it?

-Altrez

EDIT: Again the way I figured this out was from the sono research. If you are having issues you can learn quit a lot from that area of study. It really helped me to understand why its important to see the waves.. Remember every thing communicates.

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #458 on: April 10, 2011, 11:07:52 PM »
ZnS anyone lol. Its really so easy once you understand. Everything that's needed is from nature. You just need to know what to look for ;)

-Altrez

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Thanks!!
« Reply #459 on: April 11, 2011, 12:33:19 AM »
Hi Altrez,

Great to see you posting again!!  Thanks for all the interesting tips too!!  I so appreciate them.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Yes I have thank you for sharing. Its very interesting, the IR effects that is. It would seem that it could be used in a lot of different ways once someone understood wave lengths =) "Again sono opened my eyes to all this"

could this be a 24/7 power source? <-- that's a hint guys.

Question for the group as I am sure Power to be already understands this:

what happens when you take  a 1 THz frequency collection crystal an attach a ground potential to it?

-Altrez

EDIT: Again the way I figured this out was from the sono research. If you are having issues you can learn quit a lot from that area of study. It really helped me to understand why its important to see the waves.. Remember every thing communicates.

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Sonoluminescence
« Reply #460 on: April 11, 2011, 02:42:09 AM »
Sonoluminescence How To Link

http://www.techmind.org/sl/

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Re: Sonoluminescence
« Reply #461 on: April 11, 2011, 03:58:57 AM »
Great to see you RAD-HHO!!


Sonoluminescence How To Link

http://www.techmind.org/sl/

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40 Khz vs 45 Khz Transducers??
« Reply #462 on: April 11, 2011, 04:03:53 AM »
I know that Power To Be does use the 45 Khz transucers.  Since we have a good methodology of tuning the transducers, will the 40 Khz transducers work just as well as the 45 Khz, or should we really use the  45 Khz transducers?  The 45 Khz are more expensive and harder to find.  I found a good supplier but the shipping is cost prohibitive.  Thanks!!

P.S.:  I do want to only buy stuff that will work to optimum specs.

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #463 on: April 11, 2011, 04:52:14 AM »
Hi Solvenia,

I am inquiring that china company you posted about the transducers.  I will order them.  The 45khz at 35watts.  I have a question though.  Is the joule thief circuit the controller and power supply for the transducer?  That Mary at the company is asking what PCB I need and what are my power requirements after reading these last few pages on this thread I think I just realized I dont even need their PCBs for the transducer.  Am I correct?  It would certainly save me money and time.  If you are near my location I could drop one off or mail it to you I want to order 5 of them. 
If any of you were at the energy conference and remember the Mag heater.  In the past week I realized what it would take to build one and ordered the magnets and put them onto a plywood disc.  Wow it turns water to steam rapidly within a minute or two.  Whatever material you put in front of it, copper is my favorite, it heats up very rapidly with what? Magnetic waves! 
The E3 plugs I found out were resistor plugs they have a value of 4.9 Kohms so they do not work well with my CDI setup.  They put out a very weak spark normally and with the resistor its not much better.   I am using the AEM 4 channel off of amazon.com but I have found other resistorless plugs that will work and want to use copper plug wires with it.
Told you I was still around  ;D
Chris

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Re: Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric
« Reply #464 on: April 11, 2011, 02:29:51 PM »
Hi Chris,

Nice to hear from you.  I do believe this project is the one we've all been waiting on.

I'm pretty sure that those transducers are the proper transducers we need, but as for the pcbs, I don't know anything about that.  I'm not an electrical guy, so we need to rely on some electrical guys info before you order five of those transducers.  We have a lot of electrical guys here but for some reason most of them are staying quiet.  We do need some one to speak up here electrical guys.

Mary's shipping was $61 for two transducers, so you might want to verify shipping before placing your order.  Anyway, hold off a bit and I'll try to get the particulars you requested.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Hi Solvenia,

I am inquiring that china company you posted about the transducers.  I will order them.  The 45khz at 35watts.  I have a question though.  Is the joule thief circuit the controller and power supply for the transducer?  That Mary at the company is asking what PCB I need and what are my power requirements after reading these last few pages on this thread I think I just realized I dont even need their PCBs for the transducer.  Am I correct?  It would certainly save me money and time.  If you are near my location I could drop one off or mail it to you I want to order 5 of them. 
If any of you were at the energy conference and remember the Mag heater.  In the past week I realized what it would take to build one and ordered the magnets and put them onto a plywood disc.  Wow it turns water to steam rapidly within a minute or two.  Whatever material you put in front of it, copper is my favorite, it heats up very rapidly with what? Magnetic waves! 
The E3 plugs I found out were resistor plugs they have a value of 4.9 Kohms so they do not work well with my CDI setup.  They put out a very weak spark normally and with the resistor its not much better.   I am using the AEM 4 channel off of amazon.com but I have found other resistorless plugs that will work and want to use copper plug wires with it.
Told you I was still around  ;D
Chris