As these changes are only increasing, your lamentable efforts at obfuscation and less than skillful efforts at avoiding the facts in evidence will only serve as indictments regarding your personal character in the near future.

But then, deep down, you already know that.


God bless,


TS

how near is this 'future' of which you speak? a month? a year? a decade? care to hazard an educated guess based upon your myraid 'proofs'?

blessings of the FSM be upon you mr. techstuf, may you be forever touched by his noodly appendage... ramen.

Well, now that would be "panic mongering" of a different color. 

Suffice it to say that those who stand in the way of important Truths such as these, while mocking God,

Needn't waste precious time worrying about such things.


TS

LOL, how convenient...

we have already covered the mocking thing, it is not possible to make an imaginary godfairy seem laughably unreal, it is inherent by default.

who said i am worried? you keep repeating over and over that 'time is short, do not be deceived' etc. etc. i am just curious as to your opinion on how short of a time it is.


blessings of the FSM be upon you mr. techstuf, may you be forever touched by his noodly appendage... ramen.

the sun dose rise and set over the north pole!
in the land of the midnight sun, at 66 degrees north the sun will rise and set almost due north taking over 23 hours to circle the sky on June 21.
on DEC 21 at the same spot the sun would rise and set in minutes almost due south.
the farther south the less extreme the change over the year. til in the tropics its close to 12 hours of daylight every day.
by the way how am i to tell what direction your camera was pointing?
most important what are we supposed to do if you were right?
fritznien

I guess Venus got hit pretty good in July, hardly any word until recently...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AoQnA503Ck

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17534-mysterious-bright-spot-found-on-venus.html


Those in the northern Hemisphere are now getting good views of the moon's new higher apparent orbital track this week as well.  Watch it's rise/set location, ascent/descent angles and zenith in your area.



Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ

I just got in from watching the moon rise. It is exactly where the charts said it would be. Two days ago I got both the sunrise and sunset exactly where my 30 year old book on solar housing said it would be. I have no problem believing that the government lies whenever it suits their purpose but after seeing this repeated on the web  for over two years I finally got up and checked it. They  may have moved in 2007 but they have moved back. I am located in Blackwell Oklahoma and if anyone near here would like to compare notes and compasses and charts just let me know. If this were happening it would be a great reason for our screwed up weather but as for this week all is where they are supposed to be .
Garry

TechStuf and WilbyInebriated,

first of all I want to thank you both for an hilariously entertaining exchange of arguments,
this thread have frequently made me almost falling off my chair laughing.

Now, do not for a moment think that I disregard the seriously proposed supposition that something
may be wrong with our 23.5 degree tilt of the Earth axis.

But there is a very simple way to check the validity of all this, thereby ending this funny
discussion between the two of you.

Just check the star Polaris, the North Star.  If this star is changing its position, you are definitely right TechStuf,
since the North Star never will change its location in the night sky as long as the tilt of our Earths axis stays normal.

But if the North Star keeps its location unaltered, this thread unfortunately loses its major drive.

Gwandau

OK, TechStuf, I understand you are taking things in life very seriously. I don´t.

You have to allow yourself to laugh ones in awhile, even at yourself. Otherwise you risk becoming
a nagging old crone with an important ego crushing the very joy out of you.

If Earths tilt still is normal, which is perfectly verifyable by checking the North Star,
which I will do as soon as the cloudy skies are leaving my area, what then may cause this change
of paths of the Sun and the Moon, that you seem so sure about?


Hopefully you are aware of that we are still in the wake of the so called Major Lunar Standstill, causing the rising and
setting of the Sun and the Moon to appear further south and north than usual.

With the culmination of the 18.6-year cycle of the Moon in 2006 and again in 2024-25, also called the Major Lunar Standstill, 
we are afforded the unique opportunity to observe the monthly, annual, and 18.6-year wanderings of the Moon.
The 18.6-year cycle is caused by the precession of the plane of the lunar orbit, while this orbit maintains a 5° tilt relative to the ecliptic.

Still, it never passes beyond the 28.8 degree limit, so even this would be a piece of cake to check. Will do this as soon as
possible.

If I am able to confirm your observations, this may indicate a lot of things, but not neccesarily the Doomsday scenario depicted by the people who wrote the Bible.

Personally I seem to have a somewhat more open position versus the Intent that may be behind our existense than the self important Christian view.

Remember, Nobody, not even you, do really Know what this reality is all about. It's is a mystery beyond anyones grasp,
and this mystery is as far as I am concerned the very beauty behind our existence.

If your aim is to be a true spiritual being, throw away all dogmas and open up to the beauty of the Mystery.

Organized religions are anti-spiritual prisons making the devotee believe he is home.

True spirituality is being  poised in the middle of an eternal universe with an open mind and an open heart,
taking full responsibility for ones own actions.

Religious Books are baits of the controlling mind, you are a lot closer to God when alone in unspoiled nature.

Gwandau