Author Topic: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2 (Read 314655 times)

hartiberlin · « **Reply #165 on:** May 23, 2006, 12:37:35 AM »

next one

hartiberlin · « **Reply #166 on:** May 23, 2006, 12:41:00 AM »

next one, this shows an incorrect stator magnetisation,
this I was told, that this was, why the motor did not work...

hartiberlin · « **Reply #167 on:** May 23, 2006, 12:44:13 AM »

last one

silverdragonrs · « **Reply #168 on:** May 23, 2006, 01:22:20 AM »

nice pics omnibus... thanks for the great work....!!!!!

danny

gn0stik · « **Reply #169 on:** May 23, 2006, 04:41:36 AM »

Danny did you shape your stator magnets?

kukulcangod · « **Reply #170 on:** May 23, 2006, 08:31:17 AM »

Danny don't worry man don't give up just that, but be careful like to many others this can be your ruin if you bet only to one posibility if you get obsesive, if you invest to much time in what is not a real priority in your life .........yeah reality hurts , but we have to work hard and organized, job,job ,job...and then hobby...........but sometimes is like a vice isn't it?,.avoid that cycle..........You have achieved a lot by making that motor and is very useful info .
In my behalf I'm making the apparatus the closer I can to the original , I agree on that, though I have those improvements already going on in my mind, I have faith that is going to work but if is not I have my own designs and we will try them,
The problem that I have so far is about "on its side magnets" but so far it interacts good with the rotor that has to be up 2 milimeters, and to create the flywheel .
thanks to Omnibus and Stefan for the pics those are fabulous.....the rollers on top seem like a nice addition,as danny said is mechanically simple and I also fig out those by mere logical aproach, hope they're not too heavy. I think someone was in a hurry not checking out the unusual polarity of those magnets,
As per axels in the stators mine are rought but I'll cover them with small pipes.....The best part is that the rotor is a polyuretane roller skate wheel arrangement expensive set but smooth and strong , the half moon magnet is rough on the edges but works as expected , so I think everybody is bussy and they will come out with elegant designs ....Good luck.

FredWalter · « **Reply #171 on:** May 23, 2006, 04:12:15 PM »

Quote from: silverdragonrs on May 22, 2006, 11:09:14 PM

I am going to have to take my model apart to create the new one.. i will start that today or tom. I am sorry i could not get a picture or video

Please, post your approximate location, so that you can find someone nearby with a webcam/video recorder. That way they can contact you, and arrange to visit you and document your current model before you take it apart. In fact, you should have them video it, or take lots of pictures, when you take it apart.

The problem with free energy/overunity devices, when people don't know why it works, is that little changes can be the difference between something working, and something not working, so a video record is vital.

Maran · « **Reply #172 on:** May 23, 2006, 08:49:38 PM »

SOMEBODY TRY TO REPLICATE THIS

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6530165466308380947.

TO SIMPLE??

I HOPE YOU CAN SEE THIS VIDEO.

73

kukulcangod · « **Reply #173 on:** May 24, 2006, 12:15:51 AM »

I did tried it , this belongs very originally to the Hamel device folklore I'm surprised Billy Meyer has it as well, meaning, other than the obvious relationship to it.....what's the other relationship?, anyway it doesn't work any better than the Hamel's setting which doesn't have the notch, in my appreciation the gap in magnets doesn't make any difference, it has to be mechanically assisted by hand , believe me I was very excited thinking someone fig out something else new 'cause from Mr. Hamel's info is hard to understand, as per others apreciations as well and being in front of the man himself, reason being? his french language,
Anyways, is and impressive way to show the basic principle of weight into speed also exposed in this Torbay's motor, so inertia makes it look, "perpetual", mine did spin for a while because the metal ball and the disc was small in relation, to the top magnets rim ,mmm....."Are you pondering what I'm pondering pinky?" someone tried a bar magnet in an arrangement like that right in this forum so ......maybe just maybe

gn0stik · « **Reply #174 on:** May 26, 2006, 05:37:02 AM »

So... I take it this project is dead? Bummer, I was hoping some of the folks would post some progress. Get something going with it.

Jdo300 · « **Reply #175 on:** May 26, 2006, 07:17:32 AM »

Hi gn0stik,

I wouldn't say this thread is dead at all. Most of the people who are actually building things are busy in the garage working on their models. I have already designed a 3D model of the Torbay motor (different than the one I posted pictures of) which I just need someone to fabricate. If anyone here on the forum has CNC capabilities, let me know and I would be glad to pass the CAD drawings along to you. I designed it so that all the pieces could be made out of 0.5", 1", and 1.25" thick plastic which can be bought online from www.mcmaster.com for around $100.

God Bless,
Jason O

FredWalter · « **Reply #176 on:** May 26, 2006, 02:48:01 PM »

Quote from: Jdo300 on May 26, 2006, 07:17:32 AM

I have already designed a 3D model of the Torbay motor (different than the one I posted pictures of) which I just need someone to fabricate.

Why not just post them here, in an attached zip file?

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I designed it so that all the pieces could be made out of 0.5", 1", and 1.25" thick plastic

What is the maximum width and length of the pieces? Can they be cut out on one of the small milling machines that are commonly available? (Sherline, Taig, Sieg X1, Sieg X2)

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which can be bought online from www.mcmaster.com for around $100

Have you looked into how much the magnets and other parts will cost?

gn0stik · « **Reply #177 on:** May 26, 2006, 04:06:20 PM »

Alright! sounds awesome. Well, if we can get one rotor, one stator, etc., etc.. fabricated, we can cast more ourselves out of alumilite casting resin, and make kits.. Did you design all parts? including the base, and topcap? I would suggest a base with grooves that the stators can slide forward and back in, for adjusting the size, etc., There are even different types of alumilite to to choose from.. However, I'm thinking that there are brass parts that we will need. I know torbay himself has made them from wood and plastic, but why did he specify brass to begin with?

At any rate, once we get a runner, we can cast parts from it.

Jdo300 · « **Reply #178 on:** May 26, 2006, 04:47:08 PM »

Hi Fred and All,

Yes I designed all the pieces to build a complete motor including the rotor cap. When I designed this model, I specifically scaled it to fit some standard sized neo magnets that can be purchased cheaply from www.kjmagnetics.com. I think the total price for the stator magnets came to under $50 (rough guestimate). As for the rotor magnet, my friend Dan LaRochelle happened to have some custom made 4" OD, 180 degree, radially magnetized arc magnets from another project he did a while back so I scaled the model I created with the intention of using his magnets. I'll have to get in touch with him to find out how much it would cost to have more of them made though.

As for the total size of the plastic that would be needed. I'll have to check the model to see but off hand, I can tell you that I made the base 12" in diameter (can?t remember if it was 1" or 1.25" thick). The other pieces could probably be cut from a 12" x 18" piece of 1" plastic and a 12" x 18" piece of 0.5" plastic. But I'll get back with you to tell you all the specifics.

The model is designed after the wooden one that Omnibus posted. So the cap has the spiral ramp in it and the base of the rotor has a series if holes and to place the lifting roller in it. The entire model is completely adjustable to make tuning a synch. I'll upload some screenshots and parts later this afternoon. If anyone has any preference for a particular CAD format, let me know. Otherwise, I'll upload each piece as a DXF file. Each piece was designed to make it easy to fabricate on a three-axis CNC Minimill.

God Bless,
Jason O

FredWalter · « **Reply #179 on:** May 26, 2006, 05:34:50 PM »

Quote from: Jdo300 on May 26, 2006, 04:47:08 PM

I can tell you that I made the base 12" in diameter (can?t remember if it was 1" or 1.25" thick). The other pieces could probably be cut from a 12" x 18" piece of 1" plastic and a 12" x 18" piece of 0.5" plastic.

The base sounds too big to be cut out on something like a Taig, Sherline, Sieg X1 or Sieg X2 milling machine. The workspace on your typical small desktop milling machine is pretty small.

It sounds like a larger mill, or a small CNC router, would be necessary to fully automate the process.

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