Author Topic: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2 (Read 314705 times)

Craigy · « **Reply #495 on:** October 26, 2006, 05:33:54 PM »

Thats better, i was begining to think we we going dry for a bit there.I have wandered of the torbay to test my latest flight of fancy which
probably won't work. But until i convince myself it won't work, i am staying with it. should be back on the standard torbay in about a weeks time at my estimate.
Please post pictures and videos, they inspire us all to copy or do it a different way, which is all benificial to the cause.

And yes sliding magnets is not lost on me either, thats why i started building a torbay. Has anyone tried Mrd's idea of lowering the stators via a magnet on a cam at the bottom of the torbay instead of relying on the top hat ramp alone?

Craig

joe · « **Reply #496 on:** October 26, 2006, 06:15:52 PM »

Hello Craigy,

Since over 2 months now I have tried diffirent configurations of that motor and i can't get enough torque to lift or lower the rotor.
I have order a big 6" ring magnet that i should receive this week but the question is, will it help because i have used some small ring magnets before for the same machine and no luck. Now as i said before, problem with those rings are that they are magnetized trough the thickness and we have a south pole on one surface and north on the other.
I have looked to get magnet with north pole only on the edge but i can't find any. Torbay probably have this king of magnet so that is why his machine has the power to move the rotors.
I don't send pictures of my rigs until i get something working. If I success with something i will spread the news for sure.

I wish success to all free energy builders!

Joe

ktm_2000 · « **Reply #497 on:** October 26, 2006, 07:04:28 PM »

I've been following this one for a while and liked MRD's idea to lift the stator magnet with another magnet. It seems the next issue is to drop the stator magnet. My idea is to have the stator magnets on a sea-saw and use a top disk with magnets installed in the proper locations to move the sea saw in the proper position as required.

here's a quick drawing of my idea; the bottom left area is a side view of the whole thing and the circular drawing to the right is a top view of the rotational disks. I have drawn the bottom disk with 2 sets of magnets and my drawing is quite poor but my thought would be to have 2 sets of magnets on the top disk but then have the magnets on the top disk 176-177 degre apart so that even though the top disk is out of weight balance each side of the disk would react 2-3 degrees out of balance on each side and potentially get around any sticky points.

What do you think??

ktm_2000 · « **Reply #498 on:** October 26, 2006, 07:10:00 PM »

my drawing doesn't clearly show this so I thought I'd describe it.

The yellow lower disk would have the series of magnets 180 degrees out of phase.

The top disk would have the each side of the lift / lower magnets 177-178 degrees out of phase.

Also the way I drew this it would turn counter clockwise.

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #499 on:** October 27, 2006, 01:43:04 AM »

Quote from: ktm_2000 on October 26, 2006, 07:04:28 PM

I've been following this one for a while and liked MRD's idea to lift the stator magnet with another magnet. It seems the next issue is to drop the stator magnet. My idea is to have the stator magnets on a sea-saw and use a top disk with magnets installed in the proper locations to move the sea saw in the proper position as required.

What do you think??

Unfortunately that configuration will bend the flux lines twards the inner top magnet, which would result in minimal flux density reaching the armature magnet. You can simulate this configuration in FEMM to see how the magnets flux lines respond, or you can experiment with a few magnets in your hand. You will notice the the two opisite poles (inner teeter totter and inner lifting magnet) will interact not allowing the inner teeter totter magnet to interact with the armature magnet. Sorry to be the nay-sayer, but I do wish you good luck and I cant wait to see your device running for the first time. I still believe you are quite close, but looking in the wrong direction if you're looking to overcome the tourqe required to lift the stator magnet. Have you ever thought about a pendulum to replace your teeter totter, or even extending the outer length of the teeter totter making it act like a lever. Well once again good luck!

~Dingus

Craigy · « **Reply #500 on:** October 28, 2006, 02:44:21 AM »

Hi All

Joe, you say you "can't get enough torque to lift or lower the rotor" do you mean the stators?
The stators want to escape the field of the rotor, so at rest, if you have nothing holding them down they should be straining to get away from the rotor, in My experience getting the stator to bounce up is easy. Down is another matter..

"I have ordered a big 6" ring magnet that i should receive this week" Are you going to cut it in Half?

Ktm, i see what you are trying to do, have you thought about mrd's postulation of having the lowering magnets hidden in the base like the torbay video, it would explain that thick base...

Craig

Craigy · « **Reply #501 on:** November 08, 2006, 02:13:46 AM »

I'm still working on the torbay, but seems like no-one else is

Bye

Craig

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #502 on:** November 08, 2006, 12:06:13 PM »

I'm still excited to see what you do with the idea... Just waiting for updates, pics, and theorys.

joe · « **Reply #503 on:** November 08, 2006, 03:58:37 PM »

Hello Craig and all,

I am still waiting for the ring magnet that is magnetised "diametrically" wich mean the edge of the magnet would be north pole only.
So the person who have that kind of magnet is out of the area for a while so i am waiting.
I think (this is my personal point of view and i can be wrong) the half ring magnet would be the only fonctional item for this kind of device.
I have tried many different set up since and i can't have the torque to get the last rotor into the ring magnet line of force.

I will be back with this later, Joe

joe · « **Reply #504 on:** November 08, 2006, 04:01:45 PM »

I just read my last tread and in the last sentence please forget the "ROTOR" i mean "STATOR"
Sorry

kukulcangod · « **Reply #505 on:** November 08, 2006, 10:06:01 PM »

Hi to all
Yes we are working hard at it! , I would encourage you not to wait to see if the others are finishing ok or not , is the only way to affect reality in a positive way , like Joe I've been trying different configurations and nothing.... the rotor magnet have to be made to exact specs, so Joe ?

from where are you getting this magnet fabricated? I didn't attempted before because it was expensive to make it customized ........I wonder if you got a better source ,I'm in usa.

As I said I got top cam and everything in place but no movement, but I can see at least clearly that my arrangement is weak, now I have too much pressure at putting down the stator so this won't let the rotor spin, and of course my ceramic central magnet is just not powerful enough ,nor the right polarization, just to corroborate Joe's statement.........is just that getting so close I have to try it, is better than waiting for results and pick up the goodies from others..........hope this helps someone , good luck.

joe · « **Reply #506 on:** November 09, 2006, 03:16:24 AM »

Hello kukulcangod and all,

I have big ring magnets. One is 7.50" OD and 3/4" thick and the other is 6.50" and also 3/4" thick. (See photo) I wish I could use them for testing Torbay's motor but they have 2 poles on the edge.
If i can't get that North pole ring i will still keep on trying with others arrangements. I will not leave this work until i am absolutly certain that there is nothing else to do.
And I am Canadian so winter is coming soon i will have more time to work on these devices.
And I can tell you one thing, even if i don't find the smoking gun well i still have a lot of fun doing that stuff.

Take care Joe

nadie · « **Reply #507 on:** November 11, 2006, 07:17:40 PM »

Hello everyone!. I was reading the previous posts and its very exciting to see pictures and videos.
I'm very interested in this project. I'd like to know who is working (at the moment) on it and if true that it generate energy.

Thanks!

shipto · « **Reply #508 on:** November 12, 2006, 06:30:09 PM »

Very interesting thread been reading it all afternoon on and off, I especially like the see-saw method and was thinking that the center is turning anyway what about a cam moving a long slider as it turns? I suppose it would have to be able to move very freely but it should be possible.

dani · « **Reply #509 on:** November 12, 2006, 09:54:49 PM »

Quote from: Craigy on October 25, 2006, 09:33:45 PM

Where has everybody gone?
I'm still trying, perhaps its a lemon, but no one is telling me so LOL.

So here is another video, the Torbay Hybrid, I will try and raise the stators using the trick of a magnet on the Rotor. it worked well in the standard torbay. I can only Try!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7jIwL9LFc

Craigy,
How about supplying an electromagnet to your device?
(see Harry Pauls EM at http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Paul_Harry_Sprain_magnet_motor )

..dani

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