Author Topic: Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2 (Read 314653 times)

Craigy · « **Reply #480 on:** October 23, 2006, 07:28:22 PM »

Hi all,

Joe , do you mean something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYquAMu6e2I

Comments please , good or bad, can we get rid of torbays dam ramp and replace it with a seesaw?

Vorlon, have you not got an old hard disk lying around somewhere? Rob the bearing or motor out of it, then use wood ,metal plastic or anything else that is reasonably durable to make a rotor, I'm not sure styrofoam will last very long, the magnets are small, but very strong.

Craig

mikestocks2006 · « **Reply #481 on:** October 23, 2006, 08:01:47 PM »

On the torbay motor video, there appears to be a large gear on top, coupled to a pinion spining as the top platform rotates.

Does anyone have any idea or comments of what might that be? and why it's there?

joe · « **Reply #482 on:** October 23, 2006, 08:25:41 PM »

Craigy,

I am at work now and the firewall on my system prohibits videos, so when I get home i will look at Youtube to see if we have the same idea.
I will contact you later tonight.

Are from America?

Joe

Craigy · « **Reply #483 on:** October 23, 2006, 08:28:24 PM »

thats the gear to the small motor used to generate electric.

I'm in the Canary Islands, Ex-Pat Englishman

Craig

mikestocks2006 · « **Reply #484 on:** October 23, 2006, 08:34:22 PM »

Quote from: Craigy on October 23, 2006, 08:28:24 PM

thats the gear to the small motor used to generate electric.

I'm in the Canary Islands, Ex-Pat Englishman

Craig

ahh ok the pinion is attached to a generator that produces usuable electricity? I could not see any wires coming out of it at least from that video.
Thanks for the quick reply.

joe · « **Reply #485 on:** October 24, 2006, 03:30:28 AM »

Hello Craigy,

I just watched your video on Youtube and i was thinking about the same thing except than i am using a half donut magnet.
I have a lock at the center (like yours) so that center stator magnet is (I think but not sure) unuseful concerning giving torque. On my next try, I will concentrate on 2 stators, one on each end of the ring magnet. One stator gets pull up by the upper magnet (I will fix a little neo magnet on top of the wheel so when the wheel is turning it is catching the stator up) so that rotor is now ready to pull the rotor to the other end and finally at the other end the next stator "waits" for the rotor to be at exactly at the right position for the final push. And then the same process is repeat again and again.
Right now It is only an assumption and it may not work but i will give a try by the end of the week.

Have a good day,

Joe

Craigy · « **Reply #486 on:** October 25, 2006, 01:21:22 AM »

Hi Joe and everybody,

Well in my frustration replicating the torbay ramp; to push the stators down i am trying a see saw. It should be ready for testing soon as i have fixed a beam over the rotor via bearings. i am hoping that the rotor will seek the gap from one side to another. in principle it seems to work by hand, and uses the torbay principle of chasing the gap. it just raises 2 stators instead of all 8. i t may turn out to be a lemon, but someone has to try

Craigy · « **Reply #487 on:** October 25, 2006, 01:23:43 AM »

oh and a photo why not?

Craigy · « **Reply #488 on:** October 25, 2006, 09:33:45 PM »

Where has everybody gone?
I'm still trying, perhaps its a lemon, but no one is telling me so LOL.

So here is another video, the Torbay Hybrid, I will try and raise the stators using the trick of a magnet on the Rotor. it worked well in the standard torbay. I can only Try!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7jIwL9LFc

CLaNZeR · « **Reply #489 on:** October 25, 2006, 10:47:28 PM »

Hi Craigy

you are doing a fine job mate, but all of the designs come back to the point of getting past that sticky point.

I have tried many designs and like yourself gone for the practical rather than the theory (it amazing what you can learn from feeling those magnetic flux's through the hand), but they all come down to the sticky point.

My main approach now is down to finding out how to get past that sticky point, in the form of shielding/redirecting the magnetic field.

I think your design is excellent in producing the Torque and speed that will be indeed needed to produce the motion to drive a small alternator, but until you get the full rotation you are at the same point as the rest of us.

Even though their are many people on these forums that have gone through all the stuff we are probably trying, I do not see a collection of trial and error devices listed. So till then we battle on and learn as we go along.

Keep it up mate and well done.

Regards

Sean.

Quote from: Craigy on October 25, 2006, 09:33:45 PM

Where has everybody gone?
I'm still trying, perhaps its a lemon, but no one is telling me so LOL.

So here is another video, the Torbay Hybrid, I will try and raise the stators using the trick of a magnet on the Rotor. it worked well in the standard torbay. I can only Try!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7jIwL9LFc

Craigy · « **Reply #490 on:** October 25, 2006, 11:38:49 PM »

Hopefully my humble efforts will inspire people to do the same. Perhaps through our failures we are positively contributing to the day when overunity comes, and come it will, just a little bit earlier for our efforts.

kukulcangod · « **Reply #491 on:** October 26, 2006, 02:19:20 AM »

"sticking"

to the original torbay design which I'm using I've just find out that the axle of the rotor is to short , and also the ramp needs to be a taller one if we imagine a cilinder in vertical position and looking from the side the ramp that I need would be a barrel instead of a coin width in comparison, to allow the stator in front of the angled half moon magnet to operate , to create the gap that is, more effectively, the way I have it? the top is constricting everything with even forces going no where therefore,I was affraid a too long shaft would create back the wobble movement.......back to the drawing board for right measurements......
I also hope this can be used as a reference of things to consider. cheers

tak22 · « **Reply #492 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:28:23 AM »

Hi everyone,

I'm still out here designing and refining. My latest drawing board effort actually has a name, the 'tortak', which is half Torbay design, half mine. It's still on paper but I've done a couple hand held proofs of concept, and based on that encouragement I'll start gathering parts. I'll be using a HD base and platter for rotor mounting and am accepting any suggestions for ready to use 'pivot points' to mount magnets on.

supersam · « **Reply #493 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:45:18 AM »

hey!

did everybody miss the post about , alot less effort has to be put into sliding a magnet than in lifting it!!!!!

WHAT PART OF THIS DOESN't MAKE SCENCE?

lol
sam

tak22 · « **Reply #494 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:54:09 AM »

Hi sam,

Your message wasn't lost on me, that's part of why I'm working with a new design that's trying to stay away from needing a top cap, springs, or bumpy things! The only criteria is to create a 'hole' for the rotor to continually 'fall' into, and there's quite a few ways to attempt that once you ignore how you've seen it attempted by others.

best to all, tak

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