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Offline billmehess

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #60 on: November 11, 2006, 10:25:42 PM »
Hi Stefan
Yes I will you a mechanical switch. What is really beneficial is that I can use the clock itself to deliver the pulse to the battary. Remember I have second, minute , hour hands to perform any and all types of timing functions that may be needed. At 16-20 volts a very nice spark is created to charge the battary.

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2006, 12:25:30 AM »
Hi Bill,
well done.
You can try to "tune" this spark to get more charge.
Try to use different contact material pairs like
copper-graphite
or
magnesium graphite
and this will help alot !

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2006, 03:00:02 AM »
Outstanding-Thank you!

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« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2006, 03:11:31 AM »
Next week when I post I will show all values. I have been able to increase my voltage output from .45 volts/5 min. to about .85 volts in 5 minutes. Again I will detail all values next week. I need to file the provisional patent on Monday. Please bare with me.

Bill you must also provide a messurement of amperes, a well sealed dry pile can generate 10,000 volts for over 200 years but its only at one nano-amp which means it generates much less then even a thousandth of a watt per hour. The average US household uses 2kw of power per hour, so as you can see voltage has little bearing on power without also having a proportionaly high amperage. I am exited to hear more about your experiments on this project, I just hope the data is more elaborated.

Thanks for sharing your information,
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« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2006, 04:30:23 AM »
Ok,I understand. I took a LED ratred at 2.1v with a current draw of 20ma. I charged up one of the capacitors from the device to 2.15 volts. When I connected to the LED I got a light burst.
To use the pulse method to recharge a battary you should pulse it each second. I plan to pluse with 16 volts
which will give me a amp pulse of around 160ma. This should be fine as use a 12vdc battary charger that has two setting 200ma or 600ma.
I have made some significiant strides today in voltage production. I can produce 1 volt/minute or 60volts per hour. Remember I have 28 days to generate electricity!
60 v/hr x 24 hr= 1440 pr day x 28 days= 40320 volts.
If I doubled my pulse voltage to 32 volts which would give me 320ma I would be able to pulse the battary
1260 times (or seconds) which is 21 minutes.
When I connect to by 12 volt charger at 200ma it charges back up in about 4 minutes.
Remember I am experience a voltage drain of  only around 50mv under a full load (winding the clock spring).

Two things to consider:
1. The battary "recovers" 20-30mv on its own within 15 minutes.
2. Because of the small drain I could run the battary once a month for a year (or more) you can see how    much juice  would have to work with over that time and recharge it one a year. Though it is better for the battary to charge it more frequently.
Notice I am using 28 days instead of 30. I do not want to run the clock all the way down. It will be eaiser to regage (rewind) at a specific time rather than at a specific rate.

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« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2006, 07:08:13 AM »
Hi Bill,
what do you mean by
"I can produce 1 volt/minute or 60volts per hour"
?

Is that at a specific capacitor value ?
So if you have for instance 10000 uF as a capacitor,
do you mean, you can charge it up to 1 Volts from zero Volts
in about 1 minute of time with the magnets going into your coils ?

Or do you mean the battery voltage will rise 1 Volts/minute ?

And what do you mean by:
"When I connected to the LED I got a light burst. "

Is that this way, that the LED constantly then gets light bursts,
when the pendulum swings back and forth or did you only connect the
LED to discharge the cap in one big flash  ?

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« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2006, 05:12:52 PM »
I will answer all these questions as to exactly how it works with all values of diodes, capacitors, voltage generation how the system works in its entirety on Monday as soon as I file my provisional patent.
At this point in a nut shell capacitors are charged to be able to pulse a battary. The comment about the LED
was to show that it is generating amperage, it was a response to Dingus post.
This little device generates a hell of a lot of "storable" useable voltage.

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« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2006, 08:28:23 PM »
you must load an condensor ,like 1000mf  or 10000mf.
to "any voltage" , and than "unload" it over an Resistor to the led.
tat reduce an overamperade flow over the LED tat will only burn for example
at 2,0 to 2,5 volt . At more votage and higher current  it will disturbe.

So if you load to tehe capacitor to 12 Volt and unload over 500-ohm Resistor,
that will the Led light take 20mA if the Condensor is 12Volt load , abd the currend go down (over time) as the Voltage drops up to 2 Volts.
This way you can also SAY : My Invention produce xxx Mittiwats per hour.

If you find more technical Informations, you can use "insted the resistor" an constant current source (made from to transistors an some resistors). Also LED with buildin
constant current souces (as 10mA) are avaiable on the marked. (All Voltages from 5 to 25
Volts can directly connected to this LEDs)

Pese

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« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2006, 08:13:22 AM »
Just passing on some of my prior work in a similar field of mechanics and clock like power distribution.
This idea for rewinding without any electrical input, I hope this gives you new ideas about energy.

Enjoy! ;)

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« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2006, 03:26:59 PM »
This is interesting but I observe the following:
Its really big and massive. Also it needs a constant source of energy (in this case water) running at a constant rate. What if you are running no water at the time, based on this design nothing would happen. Also Not a closed loop system and it requires an external input from a non regulated source. A standard hydroelectic system with running water from a river or dam is an example.Fun to look at though, as always thank you for the input. This is a great community!

My motor will run 24 hours per day. It does not need any external input, it is a totally closed loop system.It can generate its own workable power and store additional. Its OU!!

I wanted to post today but I need to finish up some last minute additions to the unit. I will post tommorow
morning, Tues am. pacific standard time.

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« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2006, 08:28:15 PM »
This is interesting but I observe the following:
Its really big and massive. Also it needs a constant source of energy (in this case water) running at a constant rate. What if you are running no water at the time, based on this design nothing would happen. Also Not a closed loop system and it requires an external input from a non regulated source. A standard hydroelectic system with running water from a river or dam is an example.Fun to look at though, as always thank you for the input. This is a great community!

My motor will run 24 hours per day. It does not need any external input, it is a totally closed loop system.It can generate its own workable power and store additional. Its OU!!

I wanted to post today but I need to finish up some last minute additions to the unit. I will post tommorow
morning, Tues am. pacific standard time.

Well put, but my point was just like your discribed set up it uses weights to sustain output over 1-28 days depending on how you gear it. The water required to reset it daily or monthly is less then the waste deposited by a household daily. Its just a way of extracting energy from a waste process that already is occuring. I look foward to your results.

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« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2006, 09:57:12 PM »
Ok here it is,

This is the first phase of the design
Web site address is a bit long and must be entered exactly as follows, no www

http://geocities.com/auction606/index.html

Text except for last page is copy is the provisional patent. Any questions feel free to contact me direct.

Bill Mehess
503-366-9135
Oregon USA
The time I am posting this is 12:56 Pacific Standard time

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« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2006, 10:10:48 PM »
Excellent Bill.

Makes you wonder if you could use the same principle regards using the swinging magnets to clear the sticky point on a magnetic spiral wheel as in my experiments I am down to only moving the magnet back a few mm's to get past the sticky point.

You would have to calculate the correct size of the wheel to match the swing and the RPM's would remain the same, but I wonder if the torque of having the wheel would produce more power than exciting the coils.

Fantastic idea though and well done!

Regards

Sean.

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2006, 10:17:55 PM »
V/Hours  ;D

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« Reply #74 on: November 15, 2006, 12:49:23 AM »
Hi Bill, well done.
A few questions:

Why do you charge each capacitor independently ?

Do you then put all in series and dump them across the battery ?

You better could use Shottky diodes, which can conduct better and have not such a high resistance as Germanium diodes.

Also better use alufoil capacitors. Electrolyte capacitors have too many losses.


Do you dump the charge only once per hour into the battery ?

 

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