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Offline billmehess

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #75 on: November 15, 2006, 01:14:45 AM »
Hi Stefan

Each capacitor is charged indiv. as the circuit is closed by the lead contacting the copper strips. Remember I have about 600 mv to work with each charge so I do not need to charge more than one at a time. The key word here is time
at 600mv per minute in 30 days I can produce a lot of juice. About 24kv/ month.

When I have a sufficient amount stored I would then pulse them into the battery.

This germanium diode is a special diode with only a .2 voltage forward drop I tried the other kind and the
germanium gave me a better performance

They are alu. cap. they have a voltage drop or leakage of about 30-40 mv over a 24 hour period. Since I would be paulsing the battery more frequently than that the caps I am using are doing the job

My big surprise was the amprage available I was hopeing for 20-30ma pr cap. in a paulse. I am getting
between 300-600 ma per paulse.

In terms of watt if I use say 20 caps at 600 mv each which is 12 volts and at a medium of say 450 ma
per cap at 20 caps which is 9 amps I can make the battery stand up and dance.
As a point of interest my voltage drop is so low on the battery (remember it only runs for 12 sec./month)
that when I put a standard 12 volt 600 ma battery charger on it the battery recharges in under 10 sec.

The battery at 12 volts and drawing 4.5 amps under the load of rewinding the mainspring draws around 50 watts.
I have also done this experiment 20-30 times running the battery with the load and then recharging with my 12 v.600 ma charger and the battery does excellent.

Frankly I could turn on the motor once  a month and run this device for an entire year before I would have to
recharge. better for the battery to charge up more frequently though. All closed system NOTHING IN.


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Re: Mehess Motor
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« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2006, 01:28:44 AM »
All closed system NOTHING IN.

Except the huge battery that starts off containing enough power to run the system for a year...

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« Reply #77 on: November 15, 2006, 02:51:48 AM »
Ok

If I run the system for a year and at the end of that year the battery has noT degenerated and the system has
also run x number of other loads.
Or at the end of a year the battery has not degenerated AND there are more batteries setting next to it fully charged...

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #78 on: November 15, 2006, 08:01:25 AM »
Bill,
why don?t you charge up one bigger capacitor to about 20 Volts ?
Why are you using several capacitors ?
Is there any reason for this ?

It seems, with the power you generate at the swinging pendulum
going into the coils you could just power an LED maybe constantly
over the time all the time,
if you would not use a battery.
So in this moment the energy output seems to be pretty low...

Did I understand it correctly that you only pulse the battery in this moment
about every 1 hour?
If yes, this is way too low and thus you could NOT connect a  for instance 10 Watt
load to the battery to have a real load on it and expect that the battery will
not be drained after a few days..

So in this moment you are generating maybe only a few milliwatts
of power, but if you wil take more power out of the battery by running a real load
all the time, the battery will be discharged, before you can rewind the clock
after 30 days..

Maybe you can scale it up by using this new bycicle generator that
Lee Bell tried in his wind mill ( The one, where there is a magnet in
a small plstic housing bouncing back and forth and generating induction,
when an outer magnet is passed by.)

So better try your experiment with a supercapacitor instead of a battery,
so you can be sure, that you really produce overunity with it.
Maybe you can speed the swinging pendulum up in speed,
so it runs faster and you can see the results faster than to wait for
one whole month !

Regards, Stefan.

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« Reply #79 on: November 15, 2006, 10:45:33 AM »
Bill,
why don?t you charge up one bigger capacitor to about 20 Volts ?
Why are you using several capacitors ?
Is there any reason for this ?

well this is not adressed to me, but unlike battery capacitor when charging actually is rising it's "resistance" to a new charge,  so to
charge it well (to much higher voltage (20V)) source has to rise its voltage to overcome that resistance (that would make it inefficient to charge it to 20V). Of course we all now that but sometimes it slips...

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« Reply #80 on: November 15, 2006, 11:08:43 AM »
I would have to agree, the recovered wattage is not enough.

If you do have a clock weight reseting motor now:
-Drain the battery with a light bulb as load over night. (12+ hours)
-Manually reset the clock for a full 28 day cycle by hand. (synch time)
-Wait 27 days... See if the load affects clock accuracy.
-Show us your findings on the 29th day.
(maybe a video of the event)

Have you considered using a series of induction coils in a arch along the pendulums path?
If you turn the magnet 90 degrees, it will align it with each coil in the arch thus more mW/T.

Just an idea I had...

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« Reply #81 on: November 15, 2006, 05:29:43 PM »
Well like I said this is phase one of the evolution of the device.
First I would love to be able to use one large capacitor and charge it to 20 volts instead of a group of capacitors to achieve the same results.
The nature of charging capacitors is that they will not charge more than what is going into them. My device generates around 1000mv in about 1.5 minutes. The capacitor will charge up very quickly to about 500-600mv and then begin to flaten out within 1 minute. To charge the capacitor to 20 volts would mean I would need probably around a 30 volt input.
Now that is not impossible it would simply require :
                                            1. Larger Magnets
                                            2. More Magnets
                                            3. Larger Coils
                                            4. Faster swing time

At this point I am simply trying to show that it is possible to recharge the battery over a certain period of time
to keep the system running indefinitely .Any additional power I generate over the amount to bring the battery back up to a full charge could be used in a different manner.
If you know how I can charge up a "super capacitor" to a voltage higher than its input voltage. PLEASE let me know. I admit to a self taught knowledge of all of this.



   

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« Reply #82 on: November 15, 2006, 06:13:12 PM »
Some other thoughts

Please do not get to caught up in the fact that the device is only generating 500-600mv this device is completely scaleable Again its only a function of magnets, coils, speed and clock motor size. I could have a main spring built for me that could swing 20 lb magnets if I wanted to. The 2 magnets I am using now weight 59 gr. each.What if I was produce 20 volts or 200 volts instead of 500 mv. At his time I am trying to show a workable concept.
The concept scale up could produce what ever you would want. Of course it would take more power to rewind it
but so what.
In one 28 day period there are 2,419,200 seconds the motor has to run for 12 seconds out of that time to regage the system. But during entire this time electricity is being produced and stored.
Thats what makes this comcept so unique, every other system requires 100% power input 100 of the time to keep it running and that has been there down fall.
There is no combination of only permanent magnets that will ever work on a continious basis to produce a
function motor- its a dead end (I expect to hear a lot of flac on this).











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« Reply #83 on: November 15, 2006, 07:58:59 PM »
Bill, well, that you can charge  your caps only to a low voltage is the case as with the voltage on a cap the stored energy goes with a square factor:
E=0.5*C *V^2

Well, if you put several caps in series, then the capacitance also will be lower and thus less energy...

Hmm, the only solution I see in this moment is to really scale it up and have a big mass swinging with very big magnets and also with coils with much more windings and like Dingus has drawn in his animation and being able to charge up one capacitor to at least about 15 to 20 Volts easily and then dump at least every 10 seconds such a charge via a copper-graphite switch into the battery.
It would be better, if you could do it already after each swing, so one charge drop about every second...!

So this means:
Bigger is much better!

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« Reply #84 on: November 15, 2006, 08:09:09 PM »
Hi Bill, you must design your coils and magnets this way, that you would induce into a coil already around 100 to 200 Volts, when the magnet swings by...
Then it is easy to charge up just one cap to only 15 to 20 Volts with a few swings...

So try to wind much bigger coils with bigger sized wire and much more windings.

Have a look at the Newman material you can find over here in the forum.
Many thanks and looking forward to, when you can drop the charge every 2 seconds.
You already have a nice rewind setup, now you only have to scale up the pendulum unit.
Regards, Stefan.

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« Reply #85 on: November 15, 2006, 08:19:04 PM »
Well, if this unit dos not drag down the spring in the clock, so that it really runs for a month and can generate at least 1 Watt constantly, then just forget the rewinding mechanism and just build it only with capacitors and show it running a 1 Watt high power LED light constantly for one month without any battery involved !
Then I would say I am happy to rewind the clock myself once a month, if I can just have a constant 1 Watt output already from it.
So Bill, better go into this direction as with the inclusion of the battery not many people will trust you it to be a real OU device. Thanks.

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« Reply #86 on: November 15, 2006, 08:28:31 PM »
Sounds interesting I will try that.
Also I'm not really sure how important this whole over unity thing is. At this point I may go ahead and scale up to produce enough to keep a bank of batterys charged up. Inverters would provide ac power. The same kind of hook up in a solar home but without the drawbacks.This could actually be a whole house system.
Imagine in your basement or garage you had a system working 24 hours per day totally closed loop.
I had a friend of mine who used to sell wind generators actually get out of the business because of the after market problems, also solar is very limited as well as hydro electric.Just a thought but the more I think of it the more it like the idea.


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« Reply #87 on: November 15, 2006, 09:41:20 PM »
Bill if you scale it up, so it will generate at least 10 Watts constantly, I would be happy to rewind myself the clock manually each few hours per day. So with 10 Watts constant output you can already charge up quite nicely a battery or supercapacitor bank for later usage, if you need more power... So better go this direction and drop the selfwinding effort. One can do this easily oneself 2 or three times a day...Thanks.

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« Reply #88 on: November 15, 2006, 09:52:21 PM »
Yes Bill, just try to keep a battery bank charged up all the time. Then with inverters you can generate the needed 120 or 230 Volts AC for each household.
And remember to drop the charges of the caps via graphite-copper contacts, that will give more juice back to the batteries.
And build the pendulum really big, maybe 3 Meters long thread and at least a 100 Kg weight with all the magnets inlusive and fix the clock with must have a big spring to your basement ceiling. This way you could generate power 24/7 all day and night long !

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« Reply #89 on: November 15, 2006, 10:04:03 PM »
Hi Bill, if you directly connect a white LED to each coil, can you already light it up, when the magnet swings in with your current setup ?
Maybe just rectify the output of your current device and show a video, where the LED shines brightly all the time.
Then I am happy to rewind the clock once a month, if I can have such a "perpetual" light for one month. Could be well sold as a table top toy lamp !

 

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