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Offline billmehess

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2006, 12:04:51 AM »
Stefen, I have been running a working unit for up to 8 days producing a voltage which is being stored in a capacitor. This is a physical device not a pie in the sky or cad drawing. The device works I will be able to store enough power to rewind the motor. If I was running this on my 31 day movement I would have had a running unit generating electricity for 31 days.
Frankly I see the rewind as a enginering problem only.
The core of the device has been to find a way to generate power, store that power and all of this working in a unique way in such that I do not have to draw down on that stored energy to run the unit. This is the problem that all magnetic motors have, they must generate their own energy immed. to run themselfs.
Remember time is on my side. I have as much as 31 days or 744 hours to store energy.
Yes the capacitor is a 1/2 farad capacitor- very large physically.
None of this is theory , the device is working!

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2006, 12:04:51 AM »

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2006, 12:30:06 AM »
Hi Bill,
okay, if you really get to around 75 Volts on the 0.5 Farad cap,
then you have an energy of around 1400 Wattseconds to rewind
the clock.
In 10 seconds you can then use a motor that uses  140 Watts
of power, that means you could use a 12 Volts motor
that draws 11,6 Amperes for the 10 seconds...

But you will also have many losses during these days inside the
0.5 Farad cap, so if you will still reach half of the energy
level inside the cap that would already be quite a lot with all the losses
from stray resistances inside the cap.

What voltage level did you reach until now in the 0.5 Farad cap
after the 8 days ?

Offline billmehess

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« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2006, 02:01:30 AM »
Great info-Thank you!

Running the device for the last 96 hours (4 days) has generated 8 volts in the capacitor. The capacitor is rated for 20 volts but no more than 12-14 volts should be stored.
The high  torque window lift motor runs on 12 volts dc and draws 8-10 amps under a load. I also have a lead on a company back east that sells dc motors exactly for the purpose I am proposing they are a clock parts company. I will call them Fri am to get their specs. I live in Oregon so its to late today.
Again thank you for your help it is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2006, 02:01:30 AM »
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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2006, 02:15:13 AM »
Remember the stored energy in the cap in
Wattseconds can be calculated as:

E= 0.5 x C x (Voltage)^2. So if it is 10 Volts on the cap we
have 10 x 10 Volts= 100  x 0.5 Farad x 0.5 = 25 Wattseconds.
With a 12 Volts motor you can just draw 2.08 amps for just 1 second !
So still not enough energy to rewind yet and you are only at 8 Volts yet!

At 8 Volts you are just only at 16 Wattseconds energy in the cap
and that will last only 1 second on a 12 Volts motor at 1.3 amps !
Not very much to rewind the clock.

Offline billmehess

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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2006, 03:45:53 AM »
Very true BUT I will have approx 16 volts at the end of the 8 days in one capacitor. With a 31 day movement I would have approx 4 times as much in 4 capacitors. This gives me 9-10 seconds of winding time.
I'm also looking at a standard weight driven movement. There are usually 3 weights that decend and run the pendulum over a 8 day period. It would take not much of a high torque
dc motor to rewind up the weights to begin the cycle on a continuous basis.

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Offline Nastrand2000

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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2006, 04:15:47 AM »
Capacitor charging and discharging is not a linear process. Here is a good site to show the logrithmic relationship of capacitance  http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/capacit.htm    scroll about half way down the page. I would suggest not waiting the eight days to rewind the mechanism...just a thought.

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« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2006, 09:14:14 PM »
For those interested:

I have been able to increase the rate of charge in the capacitor from 2 mv/ hour to 3 mv/ minute or 180 mv/ hour. I realize that the capacitor does not charge at a constant rate but this still represents a large increase in the amount of electricity I will be able to store in 8 days.
I also have ordered in a 8 day grandfather clock movement from a company called Klocket. This uses weights instead of a spring/key driven mech. to move the pendulum. The movement comes with three weights. The two outside weights are used for the chime system. Since I don't care about this feature I will be using only the center weight which controls the pendulum.
The center weight weight 6.8 lb so it will take considerably less motor power to rewind that up as opposed to a key winding method.
In other words I see no problem being able to generate enough stored electricity to reenergize the system so that it can run indefinitely
and produce usable power.
Again this motor system will run independent of any external power source, it will produce enough electricity to power,  and reenergize itself and produce and excess of electricity.
Because this type of movement is so much stronger than a key drive/spring system I can move my large magnet directly in and out of the coil system again.
Will keep posting as the device evolves.

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2006, 09:14:14 PM »
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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2006, 10:05:23 PM »
Excellent work Bill, I hope to see a vidieo in the near future

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2006, 10:35:09 PM »
maybe you can use this to operate your clock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_battery

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2006, 10:35:09 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2006, 11:28:28 PM »
Yes, or better use one of Walter Hoffmann?s Saltwater cells !
They last at least 10000 hours !
Maybe this way you can scale up the output of the batteries !
Have a look here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,298.0.html

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« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2006, 01:20:00 PM »
I have received a lot of emails requesting an update on my project. It's always interesting that design changes are inevitable when actual building begins. I have progressed from a charging rate of 3 mv/ hour to 180mv/ hour to now over 60mv/minute or 1800mv/ hour or 1.8 volts/ hour. I can also link a number of these units together to produce much higher levels of capacity. At this level I will be able to charge batteries to do pretty much what ever I want. I have everything in house to go ahead and assamble the unit into a finished product.
Will post videos on my site very soon.
Thank you for your inquires
Bill

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Re: Mehess Motor
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Offline billmehess

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« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2006, 02:03:56 PM »
Sorry my math is off 60mv/ min equates to 3.6 v/hr not 1.8 v/hr of charging capacity.
Bill

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« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2006, 06:37:36 PM »
My site is www.geocities.com/auction606/index.html. This won't really help you as I have made a number of changes. The basic concept of moving the magnets through the coils remains as the primary force in my design. I will post the new videos with the design changes and info on this site as soon as the unit is assembled.


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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2006, 04:54:42 AM »
Been working straight for the past 5 months, everything is now working will post everything before the end of the month. Finishing up some legal work regarding device.
Time to break our the champagne!!!
Yes I have rewond the clock numerous times!

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Re: Mehess Motor
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2006, 06:48:17 AM »
that is great news! lot of good news lately here at overunity.com

keep it open source! and good luck ;)

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