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Solid States Devices => solid state devices => Topic started by: FatBird on May 03, 2010, 02:11:57 AM
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Scientists & Inventors here on OverUnity have been working on the TPU for over 3 years now. I thought it would help if we SUMMARIZED what we know at this point in 2010.
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1. All of SM’s TPUs have an AIR CORE, with NO Ferrite or Iron.
SOURCE: See Figures 2 & 3.
2. Remember, when SM cut the 17 inch TPU apart in a video, witnesses said it was a CORK LIKE material. That cork like TPU material was a SHIPPING Platform for heavy 17 inch Speakers. Remember he worked in a Sound, Video, & Speaker store.
3. SM’s TPUs use Stranded Copper Wire. He also mentioned regular Lamp Cord Wire.
SOURCE: SM’s writings, see below.
4. Since his TPUs overheat after 20 to 30 minutes, that INFERS HIGH CURRENT in the Control Coils. Speculation is that the Control Coil(s) are a CLOSED LOOP which would cause High Current. Let’s face it, a 9 V sine or square wave fed into an Open Loop Control Coil would NOT cause over heating.
5. SM’s TPUs have an inherent VIBRATION, NOISE, & GYROSCOPIC ACTION when running.
SOURCE: SM said so in the First 5 Minutes in Video 1 below.
6. NONE of the TPUs have circular, concentric windings.
SOURCE: Figures 2 & 3.
7. The 8 inch TPU PROVES that OverUnity is Possible with a MINIMUM of ONLY 2 WIRES (Probably Lamp Cord or Speaker Wire).
SOURCE: Figure 2.
8. Figure 1 has a SMALL HUMP on top. Common Sense dictates that hump houses a 9 V Battery and a single frequency Gen. That IMPLIES a VERY SIMPLE DESIGN.
SOURCE: Figure 1, & Paragraph 2 below.
9. What about where SM said TPUs need 3 Frequencies with complex Control Coils? SM was referring to some of his EARLY PROTOTYPE units. The simplicity in Figures 1 & 2 DISPROVE any alleged 3 frequency requirement.
VIDEO 1:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1944827568401901581&q=overunity&hl=en#docid=167210479374903373
Fig 1 = 6 incher.
Fig 2 = 8 incher
Fig 3 = 17 incher
Fig 4 = Plastic Speaker Unit.
MISC IMPORTANT POINTS FROM SM’s WRITINGS:
1. Compass will spin up when turned on.
2. Never tune too close to the exact frequency.
3. Make a Kill Switch with Over Voltage & Heat Sensors.
4. The Collector is a separate coil of multi strand copper wire.
5. The frequency is directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.
6. You could describe the useable current output of my TPU as DC but with some hash in it.
7. The “TPU†units heat up to a potentially dangerous level after about 20 to 30 minutes.
PARAGRAPH 1:
Roland Schinzinger, Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering (UCI) said:
The second unit was again toroid shaped with a large hole in the center. It was approximately 17†at the outside and 15†inside with a core thickness of approximately 1â€. The unit was 4†tall. The unit was not measured in weight but could be easily lifted with one hand, (ObS).
When the TPUs are unloaded the voltage climbs substantially and I do not mean a spike. It lasts for several seconds and is a good third higher. Steven calls it the turbine effect.
I asked the inventor if this was the limit of the unit and he replied, “no way.†He provided a quick blow fuse rated at 50 amperes. With two large electrical clamps and wiring, he shorted the fuse across the output terminals of the toroid and destroyed the fuse, (ObS). There was only a slight flickering of the ten incandescent bulbs as observed although there was a tremendous discharge of sparks from the output terminals of the toroid unit.
The inventor then gave me the fuse for examination. It was warm to the touch and smelled acrid, (ObS). It was a large 240 volt AC air conditioner disconnect fuse and designed for severe service duty, (OsS).
The inventor’s claim that the large toroid output terminals were at lethal potential was no longer in question. The time was 11:20 AM when the inventor removed the small toroid unit from operation because of heat build up. I examined the small toroid unit and it was indeed quite hot to the touch.
PARAGRAPH 2:
Dear L-------,
I hope this letter finds you well and in good spirits. I am sorry that you have not gotten enough sleep. I have a great deal of trouble sleeping, myself. I can’t get comfortable at all. Everything hurts now! I have been thinking about all of your questions regarding your endeavors of late. It is obvious that you are putting out a lot of effort for this. I commend you for your fortitude and tenacity. You have the secrets and given enough time you will succeed. I spent years perfecting the A. Now I look back on it and say how stupid I was, and HOW EASY IT REALLY IS. I think it is easy because I know exactly how to do it now! For you it is not so. You don't even have the simplest clues to head you in the right direction mechanically. Please understand that I have given my word to others that I will not tell you how this process is done. It is not that I would not like to tell you, because I would. It is because I am a man of my word, and I gave my word I would not. I gave my word to my Keepers (the company that pays me) and I gave my word to the federal government.
L-------, there is a wealth of knowledge in almost everyone of my letters. You seem to be the only one who has the ability to absorb and digest the information the way it is intended. After rereading my letters to you I became aware that in fact I have already sent you enough information to duplicate my power units. I have certainly given you more to go on then I had when developing it.
PARAGRAPH 3:
In the beginning, we spent months and months trying in every conceivable way to duplicate a unit. The only thing that kept us going night and day was the fact that we already had one. We knew it was possible to have a working device. It was the only thing that kept us going on the project. And even then we said I GIVE UP so many times I can’t count. Think of the output as dc (pulsed) 5 KHz with lots of Hash in it.
On to another point. There is an inertia effect. You can actually create a revolving field with inertial! That is what I have referred to as , The inertia effect. There is a genuine gyroscopic effect when the units are on. Everybody has noticed that when held and in operation, the units have a definite vibration and have a gyroscopic effect.. They seam to resist being moved through the air. When placed on a smooth surface it is very pronounced. Some of you should think about that. I hope the things I share with you give you ideas about how my unit works. As you know, I am a great believer in understanding, not copying. If anyone ever gets one of these things operating, have them measure the electro-magnetic and hash radio around the unit....it will blow your mind. so, what does that do to control devices in close proximity?
Sincerely,
SM.
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Some of the units in the demo videos did in fact have one or two 9V batteries to provide a separate controllable DC source for the solid state control circuit. We eventually learned how to make the power converters start with only the flick of a permanent magnet across the coils. You may find it humorous that we had to find a way to make the things work without any batteries purely because UEC needed us to honestly answer the question – “Does it have any batteries inside of it� They wanted us to be able to truthfully answer NO, to anyone who asked that question. You would be surprised how difficult it can be to explained to a lay person how impossible it is to convert a 9V battery into the juice needed to light a single 100 watt 120 volt light bulb, let alone make toast with an electric toaster!!!
PARAGRAPH 5:
By the way, we found that ordinary multi strand lamp cable worked very well for use as a collector. Thick gauge wire can dissipate the heat very well but there are two problems. First the heavy gage wire isn't as efficient as the multi strand copper and also there is a safety advantage in using the multi strand lamp cable. If the unit goes too far on frequency it may begin to convert too much current and try to dissipate way too much voltage. The multi strand wire will just burn up and open the circuit whereas the heavy gauge wire will continue to conduct until there will be the equivalent of a lightning strike of the unit. That of course ends the operation of the unit but can also prove to be rather dramatic and also somewhat dangerous if you are in close proximity to the power unit.
WEIGHTS & MEASUREMENTS RELATED TO SM’s TPUs:
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12 Ounce Open Unit in the 38 Min Film.
OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 1 inch.
Output = 186V @ 5 Amps
.7 Amps with a Heat Sink.
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Small 1 Pounder, Open Coil. Took Magnet from his pocket.
OD = 4 inches.
Height = 1 3/4 inches.
Output = 100V @ 1 Amp. 7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
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5 Inch Unit evaluated at U of C, by Dr Schinzinger
Date: 12-12-95
OD = 4 ¾â€. ID = 3 â€
Thickness = 7/8 â€
Height = 2â€
Weight = He said Very Light.
Output = 137 V at 1 Amp through a 100 W Bulb.
Luminescence Meter Measured = 2.5
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15 Inch Unit evaluated at U of C, by Dr Schinzinger
Date: 12-12-95
OD = 15â€. ID = 13 â€
Thickness = 1 â€
Height = 4â€
Weight = He said about 6 pounds.
Output = 614 V
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Small Open Coil, 1 1/2 Pounder:
OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 3/4 inches.
Output = 120V @ 5 Amps. 7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
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Large 17" Open Coil.
OD = 17 inches.
Height = 4 inches.
Thickness =
Weight = 6 Pounds.
Output = 830V @ 10 Amps
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i read the first line .. and i question the info provided .. as sm plainly says .. he USED BALING WIRE...
sheesh
he did not say HEY here is my air core coil ... lol
that apears to be iron to me ...
ist
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Two YEARS AGO, GK said that BAILING WIRE was a GENERIC TERM, refering to cobbling something together.
It is like the man that said he is holding his old car or tractor together with Bailing Wire.
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Hello all,
@FatBird
your post....hmmmm.......the weights .......air cores???
OK. Just 1 question if you dont mind: the open TPU where we see 2 round black frames connected together, to say so and some lamp wires, whats the weight of this unit??
Sorry, Im a little bit older and my brain is a little bit on a "lower level" and my eyes too.
Otto
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Hi Otto,
WELCOME SIR. Good to see you around & about today.
I have never heard a weight given for that 8 incher in any of the videos.
It looks fairly light, so my wild guess is about a pound & a half.
Have a good day.
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Hello all,
@FatBird
your post....hmmmm.......the weights .......air cores???
OK. Just 1 question if you dont mind: the open TPU where we see 2 round black frames connected together, to say so and some lamp wires, whats the weight of this unit??
Sorry, Im a little bit older and my brain is a little bit on a "lower level" and my eyes too.
Otto
to be honest i could care less how sm's crap actually works ..
my shit is gonna kick it out of here !
cuz IT IS CLEAR HE USES MY WORK ! THERE IS NO OTHER WAY !
HA HA HA
IST
if it uses wire .. and it is intrupted it is my work .. hands down !
this is a undisputable fact !
so this means if it uses a sprark gap .. or neo zap or jt crap same same same ...
3 freqs is bullshit !
STEVEN SAYS HIMSELF HE USES TESLAS WORK !
WHAT I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BUILD JUNK AND WASTE TIME DOING IT .. LOL
FOOLS !
REMINDS ME OF LIDMOTOR ! LMFAO... I TOLD HIM YESTERDAY ... THE FIRST EMP HIS TOYS ARE SHIT !
ALL HE EVER BUILT WILL BE USELESS ..
SO GO WASTE AWAY ON A TPU .. ILL JUST USE MY KICKS ...
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IST, thanks for the post.
I have been following your thousands of posts for 2 years, but so far I haven't seen anything we could use towards O/U.
Could you please post something that can illustrate what you mean?
Thanks.
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YOU are gonna have to keep fishing ...
i have explained myself many times ..
ist!
im giveing up on silly humans ... should of just took the check !
eh!
: )
you really are something ... 2 years ... and you have not found the common denomonator ... my good god !
all i have ever done is O U
WATCH THIS SUPER HARD TOY TO GRASP .. LMFAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri_HbDCwf_E
CANDYLAND ... WELCOME TO IT !
DID I MENTION THERE AINT A DIODE IN IT ...
: )
WHO BROUGHT IT HOME ?
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IST, I watched your video of the sparking & bulb lighting.
BUT, if you DON"T POST A SCHEMATIC, how does that help anyone, or help the world?
It is similar to a drunk man in a bar bragging about his abundant wealth, but refusing any help for the homeless folks outside living under a bridge.
Isn't the purpose of this forem to share our knowledge & help others?
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IST, I watched your video of the sparking & bulb lighting.
BUT, if you DON"T POST A SCHEMATIC, how does that help anyone, or help the world?
It is similar to a drunk man in a bar bragging about his abundant , but refusing any help for the homeless folks outside living under a bridge.
Isn't the purpose of this forem to share our knowledge & help others?
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if you watched a fraction of the videos you say you did .. you would see i have showen the compleat assembly .. many many times ..
it is a god dammed coil of wire .... and a magnet and a power source ..... THATS IT !
GOOD GOD !
SAME DAMM THING I HAVE SAID YEARS NOW !
yea!
go watch a few more of my videos ... lmfao then maybe you get it !
ist
LET ME ASK YOU FATSO ... DID YOU HELP ME ? WHO HELPED ME ?
well i will answer i helped myself !
and i went back for seconds and thirds ..
regards
the avarge joe ... would throw out the seconds and walk on the thirds ..
i have been kind ... then that french fucking frog pulls his shit ... so i shit on him ! and anyone else who dare take my work !
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@IST
Is there any way you can wind down your rhetoric. It is beginning to sound like those one liner preachers yelling out "brothers and sisters, your salvation is in my hands". lol
Come on already. Enough is enough.
Look, if you had the ultimate answer, it would be on the market by now. So please, please, stop using up thread space to spread your grandiosity. That record has been played so many times that all I can hear are the scratches. scrump sklitch pop.
We do tests, we make diagrams to show what we are doing, we give the results, we make the changes and show them, we ask for help, we listen, we try to learn in between the lines, but then we get your daily dose of fat lip day in and day out.
I am not saying that your works are no interesting because they are in fact extremely interesting. But if you do not have the ability to explain what and how you are doing, then for all intents and purposes, all you are doing is totally useless to others. If you can sit there and say you have not learned anything from this forum and no one has ever given you anything, then WTF are you doing here bro. Just blowing steam.
The only thing I can honestly wish for you is the ability to get real. We are not the enemy here. All we want to do is learn and learn and learn some more. Without the junky attitude.
Hmmmmmmmmmm. I feel much better now. Thank you.
wattsup
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@IST
Is there any way you can wind down your rhetoric. It is beginning to sound like those preachers yelling out "brothers and sisters, your salvation is in my hands". lol
Come on already. Enough is enough.
Look, if you had the ultimate answer, it would be on the market by now. So please, please, stop using up thread space to spread your grandiosity. That record has been played so many times that all I can hear are the scratches. scrump sklitch pop.
We do tests, we make diagrams to show what we are doing, we give the results, we make the changes and show them, we ask for help, we listen, we try to learn in between the lines, but then we get your daily dose of fat lip day in and day out.
I am not saying that your works are no interesting because they are in fact extremely interesting. But if you do not have the ability to explain what and how you are doing, then for all intents and purposes, all you are doing is totally useless to others. If you can sit there and say you have not learned anything from this forum and no one has ever given you anything, then WTF are you doing here bro. Just blowing steam.
The only thing I can honestly wish for you is the ability to get real. We are not the enemy here. All we want to do is learn and learn and learn some more. Without the junky attitude.
Hmmmmmmmmmm. I feel much better now. Thank you.
wattsup
i have the only answer as i always have ..
ist !
THEN PUT YOUR FUCKING FINGERS TO WORK AND LEARN AS I HAVE DONE !
I OWE YOU ALL NOTHING .. SO WHY SHOULD I EXPLAIN MORE THAN I HAVE .. ? I HAVE FULLY DISCLOSED MANY OF TESLAS MACHINES AND THERE WORKING PRINCABLES ... IF YOU FAIL I GUESS YOU FAILED ..
WHAT MORE CAN I SAY ! ?
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@IST
The only real answer you have is that you are becoming more and more totally mentally deranged and you need some help. The only "fuckin fingers" that need to do some work are yours, to dial the Loony Ward cause you are way overdue.
Seriously, you have a major problem and it is getting to the point where we may have to ask @stefan to pull your plug again.
You may be a good builder but you are a lousy and useless teacher and your social skills suck to the nth degree. Sorry to say but I see your days here are numbered. Another one bites the dust.
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@IST
The only real answer you have is that you are becoming more and more totally mentally deranged and you need some help. The only "fuckin fingers" that need to do some work are yours, to dial the Loony Ward cause you are way overdue.
Seriously, you have a major problem and it is getting to the point where we may have to ask @stefan to pull your plug again.
You may be a good builder but you are a lousy and useless teacher and your social skills suck to the nth degree. Sorry to say but I see your days here are numbered. Another one bites the dust.
and you were reincarnated FRENCH ...
need i say more ?
regards !
ist
so back to the bench you go .... when you find what i have found to be my conclusion .. we shall chat agin ..
cuz you will find EXACTALLY WHAT I HAVE FOUND
and i dont find your failures to be my problem .. they are your own ...
300 billion $ was a lot to say no to ... could you have done it ? clearly ... i must have figured out something VERRY FUND A MENTEL FRENCH GUY !
now when i tell ya to put your fingers to WORK .. THIS IS WHAT I MEAN !
ok !
duh!
i can no longer be bothered to serve apple sauce to well growen adults .. redickulass!
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IST, PLEASE GO AWAY & tout your FILTH & PROFANITY somewhere else.
YOU & your TOILET MOUTH ARE NOT WELCOME ON THIS THREAD.
I repeat, you are NOT WELCOME on this thread.
GO AWAY.
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A ferrous core does magnify. Bailing wire is an ingenious way to get any size shape or core configuration needed. Pure genious. I caught that hint, matched it with Tels'a 382281 and viola! Instant solution! That is all it meant to be was to show the validity of the TPU based upon a really slick SM trick. This guy rocks almost like a savant. He applied very simple items to the perplexing problems of seeing the TPU for the first time. I still remember mine and I get to relive the astonishment when I show people the SM vids. This is my approach to 'Get it out there'!
At this point I will make a true statement: In time we have all seen something than we never caught or realized. We all did this. Each one of us has seen something the others have not and vice-versa. This is the really cool part of this whole process. Like watching somebody get a gift that they like.
The air core creates a Bloch wall in space. At resonance it is profoundly strong and capable to do something for us. It is action at a distance. Use this smoothly or abruptly. Either way.
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Interesting these Neo-Zap clips from IST. The circuits remember me of one which I tried to replicate some months ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RQ6tIgoiJ8
My attempt failed however because I tried to power it via a Wimshurst device. I guess the Wimshurst device didn't give enough power, however I also did not rectify the current first. The NeoZap sparks remember me of the sparks of the Thestatika in this well known picture http://www.scritube.com/files/jurnalism/51_poze/image015.jpg so maybe the same principle works in there.
@question to IST: how much voltage output would this black transformer block (the microwave transformer if I understood right) have on the secondary site? I did not found any specifications but "120 V input"...
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ok the black box is a ac to dc convertor battery charger for a LAPTOP 19vdc 4 amp .. as you can see in the videos .. much amprage is wasted .. so i dont need 4 amp ..... but voltage seams to be important ...
the mot .. is 2 coils .. low inductance and high inductance .. fat wire shorter long wire skinny i dont use the secondary .. in my basic expairments altho i could ... no diodes are present on the outputside .. THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED ..
ist
YOU CAN HOW EVER ADD DIODES TO THE LIGHT SOCKET AND GET LITE AND CHARGE BATTERIES ..
: )
wize words GK .. : ) some times the gifts one recieves are too large ..
back to this hho dirve thing .. im HYPED and i cant quit the darn thing .. it will ROCK ! : )
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@IST,
You are correct about the diodes.
If you pulse the magnet from only one side the power only goes in one direction. In other words you have pulsed DC. Gotoluc smacked both sides in his vid. The cap still gets charged.
The alignment of the Bloch wall is jacked back and forth or only in one direction or enhanced.
In the Bedini setup the 2 magnets are shearing and enhancing the Bloch wall. A free way to get BEMF.
In the use of magnets they and Mother Nature wants balance. This return to balance is the key as expressed by Walter Russell. We have ways to dislodge it but Momma Nature has the last say! Aint nobody happy if momma ain't happy. This directly relates to the female side of using eneregy as stated by Dale Pond.
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Ah thanks for confirming these things. I googled furthermore common values for the MOT output: about 2000 Volt on a MOT/1000 Watt transformer, which is helpful to know (regarding the dimensions) in case I must build a transformer by myself.
Hmmm seems enough information is given, looks like I need to "go to the bench" now...
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@IST,
You are correct about the diodes.
If you pulse the magnet from only one side the power only goes in one direction. In other words you have pulsed DC. Gotoluc smacked both sides in his vid. The cap still gets charged.
The alignment of the Bloch wall is jacked back and forth or only in one direction or enhanced.
In the Bedini setup the 2 magnets are shearing and enhancing the Bloch wall. A free way to get BEMF.
In the use of magnets they and Mother Nature wants balance. This return to balance is the key as expressed by Walter Russell. We have ways to dislodge it but Momma Nature has the last say! Aint nobody happy if momma ain't happy. This directly relates to the female side of using eneregy as stated by Dale Pond.
so then a neo banger npn pnp in sync .. will scare ya !
lol
i have smoked those mots litterly burnt the varnish off them ...
ist!
and im talking the PRIMARY... not the secondary ... from running it backwards ... lmfao!
so what has everyone ELSE BEEN DOING ? hummmm
TO THE NEW MOMMA NATURE TAKEING OVER ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJbFVJvRqOQ
GUESS WHO ?
: ) ; )
HAWK EYE ST
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Hello all,
seems dangerous to post here!
@FatBird
you said a pound and a half for the open TPU. OK, its a guess. Now lets guess about the weight of the lamp cable that we can see: its maybe 10% of the pound and a half.
Now the main question: whats with the rest of 90% of the weight??
What could be soooo heavy? Wood? Plastic? Cork? Nooooooo, dont say its a metal!!
And not to forget, the wires are only to get kicks, little kicks!! and a rotation!!! Dont forget this.
Otto
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OTTO, Thanks for your thoughts. If we add in the weight of the 9V battery, Ferrite Core, wire, plastic rings, etc, I think that it weighs about .6 or .7 KG.
SM kept complaining about the heat buildup, which implies HIGH CURRENT in the Control Winding. Therefore, I think his TPUs are Closed Loop, something like my drawing below.
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Hello all,
@FatBird
the drawing is nice but I cant say if its good or not because I never tried your setup. But what I know for sure is that some coils are longer then others. Something like primaries and secondaries but dont think about them in a classical way. I said primaries and secondaries so people can easier understand and thats all. And there is no relation between a peimary and secondary like in a transformer. I hope I have shown this with my ECD.
The people here are always thinking about a core in a wrong way: why should it even contain iron or ferrite? Not to mention "pure" iron cores. Arent there a lot of other metals that would do a good "job" in a TPU??
Didnt I post a long time ago that cores made with alloys gave me better results then pure metals?
I would also love to see GK has changed his iron wire cores or collectors and tries something else as a core or collector metal. Just for fun.
Closed loop hmmmmm......no comment.
Otto
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Could someone help me in regard to these "8 inch" pictures. I'm not clear on what I'm seeing.
First, are these black rings plastic? Second, is this the whole TPU or was some kind of external toroid wound around everything? Why are there two parallel black rings? Was this double ring assembly just a piece of junk lying around that he used?
The large gauge control coils look like a well established rotating field design using 3 switched coils.
Thanks
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@ Eighthman,
The answers to your questions are on page 1 of this thread.
This is page 2, so you must have accidentally skipped over page 1.
Welcome to this thread.
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lets talk of the gyro motion
why is it present ?
well
it is your kicks .. amped in a magnetic feild .. your wire jumps ... hence the need for CORK ... so less stress is on the wires ..
lol
from the intrupted supply ..
hit the driver at as sm says 5k and modulate it at 7.xx hz.. useing the hall effect YOU PULL FREE ELECTRONS FROM THE MAGNETS ..
ist
i have as many ways to build A TPU as i have ideas ..
thats not a joke !
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@Otto,
Current build has copper cores.
I will post tonight.
@IST,
Sure sounds correct!
lets talk of the gyro motion
why is it present ?
well
it is your kicks .. amped in a magnetic feild .. your wire jumps ... hence the need for CORK ... so less stress is on the wires ..
lol
from the intrupted supply ..
hit the driver at as sm says 5k and modulate it at 7.xx hz.. useing the hall effect YOU PULL FREE ELECTRONS FROM THE MAGNETS ..
ist
i have as many ways to build A TPU as i have ideas ..
thats not a joke !
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It seems like SM used at least 1 Toroid on all of his TPUs.
Is it possible that the 90 degree delay between the Toroid Coils SEQUENCES the Coils on the TPUs, thus getting the rotating magnetic field?
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I've already read the first page. I don't see any definite answers to any of the questions I asked.
I'll guess that the frame is plastic as ferrous material might be contraindicated. I'll guess that the two rings are normally encased in a single toroid. Failing any other definite answers, can someone tell me what video or link this 8" device comes from ?
The Feb 18 issue of EDN magazine shows a 4 coil set up under "Electronically generate rotating magnetic fields" fed by a microprocessor. It makes me think of the TPU.
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It seems like SM used at least 1 Toroid on all of his TPUs.
Is it possible that the 90 degree delay between the Toroid Coils SEQUENCES the Coils on the TPUs, thus getting the rotating magnetic field?
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a rotating magnetic feild can made from a single wire ..
but my switch method must be employed ..
regards ..
ist
but then the question arizes does the feild ever even rotate at all ? lol
i beleave it does not .. as your simply pulseing electro magnets in sequeance
it would apear to rotate but infact it is not .. same thing can be said for the jt and an led it flashes so fast it aapears constant to the human osbserver but in fact it is not constant dc ..
unless you make it such ..
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@Fatbird thanks for starting this excellent thread. Great for those of us here who haven't been on the forum for 3 years. Although I've been reading about the TPU for over 10 years IIRC and have been researching like things for about twice as long.
I'm wondering if the fact that he is using audio frequencies (5Khz) in this might be setting up a vibration in something (magnet?) that would have something to do with the gyro effect. Just a guess although the idea of a rotating magnetic field sounds more interesting. A couple of the pics look like I'm seeing a magnet or magnets in them. Does anyone know if they do or do not definitely have a magnet in them? I'm just thinking about the electricity amplifying effect GK mentioned and I saw gotoluc do with a couple magnets from a thread about 2 years ago (here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4124.0;topicseen ).
After thinking about it I'll go with the rotating magnetic field being sequentially fired by the control coils. At least for the moment it fits in with my idea of something that could produce a near runaway power effect that SM says can happen. Is this something that is already known ? -- that the control coils are pulsed in sequence around the circle - round and round inducing power into the larger collector coil? Also in the open one pictured that looks like 2 pieces of dark metal? where are the collector coils? In that one I'm assuming the dark material is metal with a split somewhere and so it's just like a one turn coil or split toroid which may draw power from the 2 ends? Remember the Russian that was lighting a bulb when connected to each end of a long nail or even a drill bit that ran through a split copper tube? Well I'm probably rambling now about stuff everyone already knows. But if not maybe somewhere in the ramble is some food for thought ;)
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The process is effecting the Bloch wall. The magnet keeps it in tact at a speed greater than 'c' / SOL. Refer to ttBrown, leedskalnin.
When you twist it the field wants equilibrium there fore snaps back. This can cause a discharge or power movement. Refer to Kunel patent. The weak field can be used from a cabinet magnet or between two poles of 2 electromagnets in air. The gap between them. Refer Don Smith PVC coil.
The field can only be mangled or enhanced when in the way of a shock conduction. Tis better to jack it in air/ less power is needed. This is what Magnacoaster is doing. Or 2 coils in resonance at 90 degrees causes this twist also. They want to connect. Refer to Leedskalnin, Bibhas De.
Look again with this new information for now your eyes are wide open.
--gk. I'll be back in 2 weeks.
@Fatbird thanks for starting this excellent thread. Great for those of us here who haven't been on the forum for 3 years. Although I've been reading about the TPU for over 10 years IIRC and have been researching like things for about twice as long.
I'm wondering if the fact that he is using audio frequencies (5Khz) in this might be setting up a vibration in something (magnet?) that would have something to do with the gyro effect. Just a guess although the idea of a rotating magnetic field sounds more interesting. A couple of the pics look like I'm seeing a magnet or magnets in them. Does anyone know if they do or do not definitely have a magnet in them? I'm just thinking about the electricity amplifying effect GK mentioned and I saw gotoluc do with a couple magnets from a thread about 2 years ago (here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4124.0;topicseen ).
After thinking about it I'll go with the rotating magnetic field being sequentially fired by the control coils. At least for the moment it fits in with my idea of something that could produce a near runaway power effect that SM says can happen. Is this something that is already known ? -- that the control coils are pulsed in sequence around the circle - round and round inducing power into the larger collector coil? Also in the open one pictured that looks like 2 pieces of dark metal? where are the collector coils? In that one I'm assuming the dark material is metal with a split somewhere and so it's just like a one turn coil or split toroid which may draw power from the 2 ends? Remember the Russian that was lighting a bulb when connected to each end of a long nail or even a drill bit that ran through a split copper tube? Well I'm probably rambling now about stuff everyone already knows. But if not maybe somewhere in the ramble is some food for thought ;)
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Thanks GK - I'm taking notes and doing my homework ;D I've got notes saved and patents saved from all those people too. I bought Don Smith's book many years ago too. I had just been playing with a coil last night on my signal generator and when I held a magnet near it at lower frequencies (low audio) you could really feel the vibration of the magnet. That's where I got the idea it might have some relevance here but now I think otherwise.
By 'c' are your referring to the speed of light? I gotta ask what SOL is as I'm not familiar with that term except in 'sh** outa luck' :D Maybe I'll find it after doing my homework...
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Yep. Speed of light.
Be careful grabbing the magnets. They can cause harm to you. Duct tape them to a wooden stick and the apply them that way.
You gotta scope?
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Got 3 scopes - one digital goes to 400 Mhz. One is broken for now and one is lost in my pile of stuff but at least the best one is working and on the bench. Thanks for the warning on the magnets - it was a small coil and fairly low power but I do prefer to be as careful as possible as I'm too old to be thrashing body parts. ;)
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he he waterhose
your hand is control coil and hose is collector coil
if you squeeze hose and release and squeeze and release ha ha ha
its like inrush water everbody knows that
or get squeezing hose water start to pack and water pressure will qrow if you dont release it then hose will break or your hand will slip ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx92LjLi894
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@Eighthman,
Could someone help me in regard to these "8 inch" pictures. I'm not clear on what I'm seeing. First, are these black rings plastic? Second, is this the whole TPU or was some kind of external toroid wound around everything? Why are there two parallel black rings? Was this double ring assembly just a piece of junk lying around that he used? The large gauge control coils look like a well established rotating field design using 3 switched coils.
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1. The Black Rings are plastic, which were removed from a black version of that Finned Speaker System shown on Page 1 of this thread. He could have used some wood or cardboard rings, but SM worked in a video, sound, & speaker store, so the plastic rings were CONVENIENT to BUILD the TPU & wind the coils on.
The bottom line is that SM had to have some kind of PHYSICAL FRAME to wind the coils on, hold the 9V battery, circuit board, Toroid, capacitors, etc.
2. SM's TPU windings are in 2 parts, Control Coils that produce the rotating field, & the Collector Coils that HARVEST the juice. So far, nobody here has been able to reproduce SM’s TPU design.
3. Here are the links to watch SM’s HISTORIC VIDEOS.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=167210479374903373#
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=167210479374903373#docid=-1944827568401901581
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=167210479374903373#docid=6398496868568110910
Thank you for your interest.
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take a peice of wire and turn it off and on good god sm is going down the tubes !
lol
fattie should tie into a fattie or 2 might wake him ...
lmfao
almost looks like a YOKE .. DONT IT ? MAYBE AN OLD ONE ... SM WAS A TV GUY ... HUMMMM THINK IT USES THE FLYBACK .... HE WORKED FOR RCA ... HE WAS ASSIGNED THE CASE OF THE EXPLODING TV ...
IT HAS BEEN YEARS SINCE I READ THE SM STORY .. but certain aspects stick in my mind ...
and otto dissing tesla ... burn bitch !
IST
you want something you CANT EXPLAIN BUILD MY OTTO ADVANCE AND YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ..
IT IS A FEED BACK LOOP USEING THE OUTPUT AFTER IT LITES THE BULB ..
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Hello all,
@Eighthman
Im not the brightest here but .....this 2 rings, for me they are rings made with a metal alloy. NO FERROUS!! We have already the information that plastic works too but.....
So far we know is this a complete TPU .... what a clever question!! Im not sarcastic! What if the open TPU is showing us "only" the inside of a TPU?? The "heart"? Just loud thinking.
The 2 paralel rings....I suppose that in 1 ring the particles are circling in CW and in the other ring in the CCW direction. If we wouldnt seperate this 2 motions of the particles the result would be a very high current from power supply.
Please, dont even mention that SM used some junk in his devices. When he builded his TPUs he knew exactly what he needed.
As I see there are 4 coils for a rotation, but 3 can also work.
And I hope that people know that the end design needs a microprocessor.
As said, Im not the brightest and I know that my answers are not the best.
Otto
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THIS IS UTTER TRASH !
NO OTHER WORDS DESCRIBE IT !
QUITE SO WELL
a micro controller bull shit !
i need not A SINGLE TRANSISTOR .. NOR A TUBE .. FOR MY TRUTH
beleave me i have some verry high quality tube toys
IST
NOW YOU WANNA PLAY TUBES .. IT CAN BE ARRANGED ... !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quFKg5bg3Wc
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so why did i show you my tube toys ?
cuz you want to rotate something ... in ordor to SPINN things .. true spinn sm's method must be employed ...
does that make ya feel better ?
you must start the rotation and not let it stop ...
to do this a core material must be used ..
you will have extrnal effects .. depending on a few things .. core material and winding and wireing configurations ..
if you go pulsed dc floating on radiating ac or spikes .. at the proper angles .. odd shit happins ..
ist
aswell you get into a big pile of shit !
so keep it simple stupid ..
why the feed back oscolator any ways .. does it keep its time .. ? that way .. ? lol
i can ride my bike with no handle bars ...
my unit works with no metranome .. no metranome .. : )
i can tell the tale through a MICROPHONE A MICROPHONE .. !
btw this is where 3 swings being pushed in the correct synced time comes into play ...
hummmmmm
what more can i say ... i guess if you miss understood my kick i guess you miss understood my kick !
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he he waterhose
your hand is control coil and hose is collector coil
if you squeeze hose and release and squeeze and release ha ha ha
its like inrush water everbody knows that
or get squeezing hose water start to pack and water pressure will qrow if you dont release it then hose will break or your hand will slip ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx92LjLi894
nice ! where did you come from i missed your post !
lol lol
ha ha ha
ist
: )
thumbs up
here is a mini tpu 3 freq basic transistor junk non freq dependent ... i can fire any i choose it is based on core material ..
ist 5555 coil btw my scope is maxed 20 mhz ... where you see the clean wave ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhPwuxk7T2g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5U_Jq8G50Y&feature=related
look the lovely waves .. : )
now tell me agin how i dont need a core .. build a bigone no core and have the mib up your ass or the fcc ..
hummmm
http://www.youtube.com/user/innovationstation#p/u/19/g1f9p08HRHg
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The 2 paralel rings....I suppose that in 1 ring the particles are circling in CW and in the other ring in the CCW direction. If we wouldnt seperate this 2 motions of the particles the result would be a very high current from power supply.
Please, dont even mention that SM used some junk in his devices. When he builded his TPUs he knew exactly what he needed.
As I see there are 4 coils for a rotation, but 3 can also work.
And I hope that people know that the end design needs a microprocessor.
As said, Im not the brightest and I know that my answers are not the best.
Otto
what if i told you those are just two induction coils.. but appear to be 4 coils..
and its not a rotating magnetic field.. well not what most ppl think of .. its a rotating induction field..
and a 5-6 khz is a near must.. and hard to do..
would you believe me.. hahaha
robbie
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Hello all,
it seems that a lot of people here have working TPUs but NOT me.
But Im not frustrated. Hmmm....this should be a technical forum (maybe one day) but I miss drawings of such TPUs, results, measurements.....
As its early in the morning it seems that Im dreaming.
Otto
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Good points Otto.
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i know i will get some beef from this but who cares ..
i built this device that i tested for a few months..
while seeing how long it would run before it died it went down sometime while i was outside talking ..
so i will quess 30 mins it took to melt the coatings off the transformer windings..
since then i have looked for and built different circuits to run it..
i built this thing in 4 months after reading the pdf file i downloaded here in this forum ..
my old one wasn't built like a tpu .. i had my aircore coils on two spools..
so when i get more time i am going to build it like sm tpu
mine uses one 9volt battery.. two small transformers.. two bifiliar aircoils
my new one i am going to try to use jt type circuits on the transformers instead of the pnp-npn circuit
before i could get the first to work i had to use iron powder core toroids or iron e cores..
you can call me what you want.. it won't bother me
but i do not make storys up.. so i am hoping for a good power conversion next time..
robbie
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Hello all,
@kooler
its not wrong to work. Sometimes in a good direction and sometimes we build s..t. But the point is that we have to work, to test and its nice to share.
It doesnt matter if people dont understand or dont WANT to understand what you have builded. The point is to LEARN.
In the last 3 years working every free minute on a TPU solution I have learned a lot but.....still not enough.
So, in short, dont be afraid of some people here that already have a working TPU and will call you a misleader or bullshitter because of your posts. Your work is welcome. Why not. (I would love to have a new nickname).
I have also written in the last 3 years a lot of bad posts and maybe some good.
But Im all the time wondering, as I said yesterday, I dont see any drawings and test results from the people that did the TPU job.
I mean ,they made claims like "I did it" or "I have it" or....they have shown us videos and a lot of bla,bla was going on here but ....still no drawings.
But deep in my heart I know that nobody knows whats really going on in a TPU. Just my feeling. No further comments on this.
My email adress is shown here.
Otto
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otto
lets talk about whats going on ...
you pulse a low volt signal to a coil ... when you cut the pulse .. it is then fired to the collector .. the control squeezes the collector current and induces it !
well now the inputted engery that put the collector engery there in the first place squezes it .. thus self induceing ... via a coil wound on another ..
or take the collecter give it a dc source ... power 1 control like a jt .. take the output of that control fire the dc fed collecter and another control ..
i have many ways ... all work the same useing the colpase of the first control to modulate the rest ..
ist
and a tpu is a joke ... i can do the same with my cascade amp ... useing transformers
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Hello all,
@IST
just a short one:
what do you think why has the US gouvernment "forbidden", "hided", or what ever, the TPU??
If you think its about some coils and caps and the usual s..t then Im sorry.
Again, why is the TPU not in public? Because SM loves to play with us??
Because its a little bit overunity? Or a lot of overunity?
Just think about this. And then wou will maybe understand that a TPU is something special.
Otto
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otto think about this ...
why IS MY MOTOR NOT BUILT PUBLIC ...
MAYBE IT KICKS THE SHIT OUT OF EVERY TPU !
do ya think ?
lol
maybe its self running with massive torque ... maybe ....
maybe it dont need a battery ... maybe it operates on MY KICK ... YA THINK ..
OR DO YA ?
here is a video of the IST MINI POWER STACK POWER SUPPLY MODULE
i explain feed back in this video .. to source and to motor source .. so as it runs with gain ...
i can add a switch so now it runs on its self ....
HUMMMMMM
IST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDKiHRh0Ef4
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@ Kooler, know i will get some beef from this but who cares .. i built this device that i tested for a few months.. while seeing how long it would run before it died it went down sometime while i was outside talking .. so i will quess 30 mins it took to melt the coatings off the transformer windings.. since then i have looked for and built different circuits to run it.. i built this thing in 4 months after reading the pdf file i downloaded here in this forum .. my old one wasn't built like a tpu .. i had my aircore coils on two spools.. so when i get more time i am going to build it like sm tpu mine uses one 9volt battery.. two small transformers.. two bifiliar aircoils my new one i am going to try to use jt type circuits on the transformers instead of the pnp-npn circuit before i could get the first to work i had to use iron powder core toroids or iron e cores.. you can call me what you want.. it won't bother me, but i do not make storys up.. so i am hoping for a good power conversion next time..
robbie
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Thank you for sharing your story Robbie.
That's how we all learn.
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Like the rest of you, I've been wasting lots of time and thought trying to figure out a path between the TPU clues and a final product that works.
Here's another aspect of the mystery: try to explain the gyro effect. Given that the toroid is open, I doubt that you can attribute it to a spinning internal object. That leaves us with one tough challenge, namely, produce centrifugal force or an actual gravitational field DIRECTLY by a rotating magnetic field. I doubt that you can attribute it to any flow of electron masses unless you come up with a completely new kind of electricity that goes way beyond drift velocity.
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alright guys..
i am not responsible for any harm to you from this device of any kind..
so don't call on me if you burn your house down or burn yourself.. or what ever may happen..
with that said..
i hope you guys are smart enough to use your own brain to add values to the components to get 5-6khz..
and you will need a scope to watch the tank circuits just so you don't push to much energy back in it and to see when the right feq is hit.. you will also feel it running once it pulls up to speed..
it took me two very long days to tune the tanks.. cause i do not know the math
there is a slight ou effect in the aircoils between the transformers and once feed back it will grow stronger
and you can use just one circuit to run both transformers or two.. theres a bunch of ways to build this.. if your not affraid to fail a couple hundred times..
with so slight changes to the diagram below it lite a 60 watt for 5-6 mins
intill one day i would see how long will it go and 30 mins later good bye transformers..
so don't whine at me if you can't get it to work.. because it takes alot of time to adjust..below is my first setup it worked with some fine tuning .. when i get some extra time i will make a better schematic and if all goes well a video..
my life is very busy at the moment..
so i am hoping you guys can improve this ..
(final thought) i hope this doesn't back fire on me..
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And not to forget, the wires are only to get kicks, little kicks!! and a rotation!!! Dont forget this.
Otto
ya, and this is the secret hmmmmm...... ;D
converting little kicks from antenna wires into a big kicks...
So therefore if we have thousands of little kicks then we have thousands of big kick isn't it?
Then to transfer the energy to the collector is to rotate that kicks? ??? ;D
wow amazing ........ ;D
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i thought i mind tell you guys the turns on the aircoil has to do with how current coming out the transformer..
and if you guys didn't notice the transformers are connected in reverse to each other.. negative to positive..
may explain why there is a gyro effect cause of the current flowing from neg to pos all the time thru the aircoil..
but whatever..
robbie
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i thought i mind tell you guys the turns on the aircoil has to do with how current coming out the transformer..
and if you guys didn't notice the transformers are connected in reverse to each other.. negative to positive..
may explain why there is a gyro effect cause of the current flowing from neg to pos all the time thru the aircoil..
but whatever..
robbie
Robbie this looks like a very interesting circuit! I will build and test this after you get the time to make a video and give a few more details.
Keep up the good work!
:)
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Hello all,
I cant anymore open the overunity.com site with MY PC so Im sitting on another to wright this. We have here over 800 PCs so I have a lot of possibilities.
@Tito
I didnt say anything about SMs secret. Not the last 2 weeks.
@Kooler
now you have almost a "Sweet device". Remember the "Sweet drawing"?
You need collectors.
Otto
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About 2 1/2 years ago a newbie user here with only one post (and still only one post) put up a one line question about a diagram which no one responded to (in a barely related TPU discussion). I found the diagram extremely interesting as it certainly looks a lot like the TPU. It resembles more the open core one SM had that was a lower voltage unit. Has anyone else seen this or knows where it came from beside the other message thread here)? It says it should produce COP >1 It even seems to have a lot of similarity to the last drawing Mannix showed for the TPU possible winding in his message thread.
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Thank you for posting that possible TPU diagram.
However, I don't see any similarity between that one & SMs TPU shown below.
I really wish there was some kind of similarity, but I just don't see it. As can be seen below, SM's TPU only has 4 separate Coils.
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@Fatbird, I didn't really think it was identical but just saw similarity to what I know. Do we know at this time exactly how the TPU coil is wired? Or what is the most probable coil winding for making it work? I'm thinking about trying to build one.
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Based on the picture of SM's Model 1 with that Toroid on top, here is my best guess so far.
My best guess so far is the schematic below, or some VARIATION there of.
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hello
i been real busy lately but i got alittle time to work on the tpu again ( few hours )..
i mixed "daniel mcfarland cooks" build in it and WOW the tanks fill instant..
it might look messing but it works good..
i'll be gone for a couple days but here is a schematic..
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Kooler, Please post a picture of your setup.
Thanks.
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Thought I would toss in something that might help out here. Don't know for sure. This may sound unrelated, but I think you will understand by the time you get to the end. I will be talking about a standard coil here. Built a coil with 1000 winds of #22. Core was metal coat hangers cut to length that I got from the thrift store by the box full. Had a rotor made from a small wheel with magnets on it. Was using the circuit Imhotep uses on his Bedini fan charger just for the hell of it. My son was handing me components and I was soldering them in. He gave me a 1000k ohm pot instead of a 100 ohm pot, and I put this in. The resister he gave me was also high, like 680 ohms instead of 50. I would spin the wheel, but it would not stay spinning no matter how I adjusted the pot. But I noticed that when the magnet from the wheel passed the coil, my little light that triggers at 90 volts would activate. So I just stuck a magnet near the coil and it begin to emit a whining sound and the 90 volt light lit up and stayed lit. I connected my charging battery up, and it began to charge. I went back through my setup and realized that I had the wrong pot and resister, so I changed them and got my rotor spinning like I wanted it to. But now I think about theat whining coil and the voltage it was putting out just by coming close to a magnet. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
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http://www.hyiq.org/Library/05-04-10.htm
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thanks gk
otto was right that looks just like what i am working on..kool
i just downloaded the pdf file .. so i will be looking over it tonight..
the only device i saw sweet use was the aircoil thingy on the table when bedini was at his house so this file really clears things up..
thanks guys..
if work will slow down a bit .. so i can get back to work on this thing..
robbie
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Here is a JUST RELEASED & UPDATED PDF Book about Free Energy.
It has 2,288 PAGES!!!!!!!
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/PJKBook.html
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@All
Is SM's comment regarding the RCA TV engineers, really pointing to the FLYBACK transformer ??
Regards, Penno
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I think the color TV hint is that they had to have 3 coils sync'd (one for each of the 3 primary colors R,G,B) so as to produce a clear image out of the three combined color guns that put the image on the CRT.
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@ Penno64
No, he was referring to CRT Deflection Coils. These are used on all CRT based TVs to Deflect the electron beam up, down, & left, right.
The Deflection Coils Driving Circuitry drifted enough OFF FREQUENCY and caused that catastrophic historic event.
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The story is reproduced below for those that never read it:
It took several years of experimentation to discover what frequencies and most importantly how to make small integrated circuits work to perform the control functions necessary to make the demonstrations you see on the video tapes available today.
So in many ways we have early RCA color TV engineers to thank for my discovery of the power generator. I am sure they are all dead now but they did contribute. Perhaps a story which had impact on me at that time was told to me by my boss way back in 1970 I believe it was.
He told me that around 1965 or 66 there was an explosion in an apartment in Chicago. The authorities had concluded that for some unknown reason, a General Electric color television receiver had been the source of an explosion that killed a young black child in the apartment. My boss went on to relate that he was involved in the investigation because he was in Chicago at the time and he was invaluably experienced with television circuits and etc. He told us that what they found was, the TV had exploded with some quick furry. The explosion did in fact kill the poor child who was sitting directly in front but spared his mother who was some distance away in the kitchen. The explosion was strange because of the absence of expected chemicals necessary to create the explosion. It appeared that the TV was the exact center of the explosion, however no one could find a reason for the explosion occurring.
Also consider that there is not really much inside a TV to explode with enough force to kill people and destroy the living room a large apartment. Yes a CRT can explode and kill someone, however this was not the kind of explosion we are talking about. The most interesting part of the story is that according to our boss, metallic objects especially those containing large amounts of iron were dramatically displaced. He mentioned that some nails were actually removed from the walls and pulled toward the TV set. When they found them they were bent and shaped like cork screws! Everything in the room appeared to have moved or was moving toward the TV as it exploded, or imploded as the case may be.
The child was apparently killed by way of these metallic objects traveling through his body on their way toward the center of the TV set. As far as my boss knew, there was never a good explanation for the occurrence. We found out that this was not the only unexplained explosion of TV sets worldwide.
However, the fact that all the sets exploded while in operation may bear some light. Also most of the TV sets were made by the GE company or were TV sets made using GE circuits and of similar design. However, this man who had been my mentor for so many years had his own theory which he never told anyone as far as i know, except me. His theory was that the TV while in operation, somehow managed to become a receiver of more then just television waves and so for a millisecond in time became a receiver and discharged of a huge amount of electrical and magnetic energy.
This discharge of magnetic energy is vary similar to the discharge of magnetic energy during an atomic explosion. . .
Now that is something I have thought about a great deal. My employer's words had great impact on me. Not that they meant anything really, but I kept thinking about the possibility of many frequencies combining at one moment in time to produce an entirely different effect then intended by the designers.
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I knew it was something like that but just hazy on the details. That does make more sense. My last real info on those was in the mid 60's when I worked in a place that had several TV repairmen and I'd hang out in their area sometimes just to talk with them.
That implosion story (just saw it on the other thread today too) was quite amazing. You have to wonder what exact set of circumstances came together to cause that and if any others had that problem.
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Heres a question for everybody,why would SM tell you information that was true so you could build a tpu.
Jack Durban said of SM he lies even when he doesn't need to,remember people he sold the rights for millions plus I believe a monthly amount that is gone the moment anyone builds a working tpu,so its in hes interest that no one builds a working tpu .Have anyone ever seen the the video where a compass rotates near a tpu,there isn't any video its a lie,like most things SM has said.
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@ powerunlimited
This might help to clarify some of your questions:
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Dear L- - - - - -,
I have some very important things to tell you. First. My attorney left several messages for me over the last week.
I finally called him on Friday and he informed me of the fact he needed to set up a meeting with me in his office in as soon as possible and that I needed to be prepared to meet with someone from the federal government.. I was shaken to the bone! He also told me that I was not to mention my future meeting to anyone including the following: Paul, anyone with UEC, anyone on the Internet including you, my family, the press, or anyone in the communication business, my elected representatives and etc. It sounded as though he was reading a list off to me. He said that, he was. I told him i was a little scared to show up. He said that he understood my fear but it would be in my best interest to get into his office Monday and he would do his best to protect me. I asked him what i needed to be protected from? He said he had to respond to the authorities about their concerns regarding my possible breaking of federal laws.
He said that the charges could be very serious against me and he needed to keep things from getting out of hand.
He told me that he convinced them (the federal authorities ) that I was not intentionally breaking any laws or going against their wishes in any way. He assured them that he would get me into his office for them to talk to and they would see for themselves that I am a nice little guy who would never knowingly break the law. So off i went this morning to my attorneys office in hopes of not getting arrested and placed into prison. I don't think I would like prison, L - - - - - -...
The first thing there I was taken into a room by my attorney and told what not to say to the Feds. Also, I was told what to do if I was arrested, etc. So I was fully scared to death!!! Next, I was taken into the meeting. Therein was my attorney and his secretary with note pad in hand. I was introduced to three gentleman in business suits. One was from the FBI, ( Federal Bureau of Investigation ), one was from the Atomic Energy Commission of the federal government and the other
was from the Federal Department of Justice, Washington DC. I now had to go to the bathroom at this moment of my life more then ever!!!
I sat down and listened to the man from the FBI remind me that I had been given a document from the federal government several years ago informing me of the fact that I no longer had control of my power technology because it had been deemed to be in the interests of the American people for it to remain in the control of federal authorities and that I was not to talk about it directly with other people, especially nationals of foreign countries without permission from the folks in
Washington DC. He also reminded me that to do so would be breaking the law and committing a federal offence, which is a big thing here in America. He went on to tell me that he was there in official capacity as an investigator from the FBI to see if i had indeed broken the law. Why had I broken the law? Because I had been discussing my technology with other people without the permission of the folks in Washington DC. I asked them how they knew that I had spoken to people about my technology and they told me that: First of all, it was not MY TECHNOLOGY. I had no rights concerning it at all. It is under the control of the federal government for the benefit of the people of the United States.
Second, The ownership of the technology is highly questionable.
Third, Do not play games with us Stephen, you know we know that you have been discussing the technology with anybody who will listen! They further accused me of deliberately posting information on the Internet. I said that I absolutely had not! The man from the FBI said that i had been collaborating with a foreign gentlemen in Australia to post information and therefor had been involved in a conspiracy to dispense information which is against the law for me to
do. Then he pulled out a rather large stack of papers which turned out to be copies of everything posted Internet wise about my technology for the last ten years or whatever.
Then my attorney interjected and they got into a long discussion which I didn't listen to very much. I was looking at the man from the Atomic Energy Commission and noted he had a kind face. He smiled at me and we began to talk. He told me that he admired my work very much. He told me that he thought of me as a fellow scientist. He told me that as scientists we had an obligation to protect people from our findings or things we discover if they may be generally harmful to them or the public at large. He told me that it was the duty of conscientious scientists to keep the black genies in the bottles so as not to harm society any more then necessary. He mentioned the Atomic bomb and how much better the world would be if it never had been invented, right? I said , right! He went on to discuss my technology in detail and reminded me of the destructive capability when the devices reach harmonic perfection. I told him that was a good analogy, or way of putting it. He told my that he didn't think I wanted to be responsible for giving out information making it possible and moreover inevitable that someone would make a big crater of a hole where their house used to stand with resulting death of themselves and possibly their families and neighbors too. He finally finished up with, And for God sake, with the terrorists hunting for weapons of mass destruction, why on earth would you want to hand them something like this to use to kill perhaps many millions of people? Do you think Moslems are not interested in this technology? They have a lot of oil so they would be interested in it for another reason wouldn't they Stephen? I agreed with him and told him I hadn't thought of it in that perspective before.
I told them all that I wasn't trying to do anything wrong at all. I didn't realize the implications of the possible results of talking to you about the technology. I told them that you were an engineer and interested in the scientific possibilities of the discovery only. The agent from the FBI said that I had no real way of knowing who you were and what you might actually be up to did I? I agreed with him. He said that they read everything going into and out of your computer whether or not anything is posted on that web site we guys like so much... He said that the Australian government was allied with the United States regarding this matter and that the Australian authorities would deal with you as need be. However, let’s hope it does not become necessary shall we? Yes of course I said? I said, I never meant to get into trouble with this.
I told them I just felt bad because of all the nasty things people were saying about me and that i starting talking to you and you said that you would try and tell the straight story about me and the technology.
I have a right to defend my self don't I? The answer was, NO! I am not entitled to defend myself. What i need to do is, to feel good about doing the right thing. I need to do what my government tells me is good for me to do. I need to develop pride in making the correct decision to keep quiet about technology that may hurt other people or even help terrorists to kill many, many others. I was told that With knowledge comes responsibility!!! I told them I never intended to do anything wrong. I was sorry. I asked them to please forgive me and not to put me in prison. They said they could prefer charges against me at any time but are reluctant because of my well meaning attitude as displayed during the meeting.
They told me that It would be a good idea if I told you to post information saying that I had no intention of revealing anything about my experiments or how the demonstrations were accomplished to the extent that they convinced so many people of their authenticity. That the demonstrations were more for amusement then anything else and that I am making it very clear that I never intended to convince the public at large. People attempting to duplicate anything they have seen in my demonstrations will not be able to do so and should not try. I asked them if I had their permission to tell you about today and they said yes of course. So........... that is what happened to me today. How was your day L - - - - - -?
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@Fatbird,I hope you don't believe that crap,he made everything up,the part about it blowing up is brilliant,SM is a spin master,a master of deception,he has a few idenities here,hes on here a few times a month to mislead and misdirect.My advice is don't believe
what SM says but try to look beyond what he says
he mixes truth and lies and its very hard to get at the truth.Anyone following what he says will simply go around in a circle and they have for years and will continue.As Jack Durban said SM is a fraud but the tpu is real.Also remember he sold the tpu rights before 911,in 1998
as far as the government is concerned its a crackpot device,if they thought it was real SM would be dead or locked up.
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powerunlimited, ditto what Chef asked and I'd also ask who you think on this forum is SM and how you would know this?
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How can you tell whos SM,you look at information on SM from people that knew him.
Jack Durban and Dave Doleshal,from Dave Doleshal, SM knows Tesla stuff backwards and forward,
Sm ,has tried in the past to do all kinds of things none worked,all of a sudden
he comes up with something out of the blue.Jack Durban says that SM is greedy,and a liar
a kind of con man ,used to fake heart attacks and illness when an investor pressured him,
I agree with Jack Durban
,but very smart and conning,he thinks SM got a tpu built by someone else
and reversed engineered it,wrong ,I think its an accidental discovery.The person
thats SM here has been here since the original videos were posted,he knows tesla
as good as tesla himself,gives himself away by saying strange comments,that sound like
like Sm,I'm an observer I have watched these SM threads for a while
I didn't think along these ways untill Jack Durban was here in 2008 And said this,
SM lies even when he doesn't need to.At that point I started to look at everything and everyone
closely
And everybody should too.I won't point out who SM is here, there are at least two idenities
maybe more,I don't believe the military is involved or he would be dead,or locked up
My point is don't believe everything that SM says or you will go around in a circle.
I believe that when SM sold the rights to the tpu, the company that bought
the rights sold it to a company thats involved in energy, they saw this
as a gigantic threat to them,no patients were taken out because ,its too easy to make and copy.
Everything would have been ok for SM except someone wanted to get back at SM and had copied
videos meant for investors and posted them,SM came to overunity to do damage control.
The video that Jack Durban got was a copy of an investor video he copied when SM's boyfriend
left it in the lab where Jack Durban was at.I suspect that Jack Durban or SM's boyfriend
posted the original videos.I did a reverse speech on SM's videos in one video forward it says
something about dc voltage backwards it says ,"extremely easy to make".Reverse speech
can be used to see if a person is truthfull,
or has a hidden agenda.Everybody blurs out speech in reverse,its a tool,unfortunately
he didn't say anything on building a tpu.this video I believe is the last video before the tpu disappeared
around 1998,notice that he solved the heat problem with a heatksink,there never was a heat problem
also the orientation problem again no problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_jJExZ1mBE&feature=related
another clue that its an accidental discovery is this in 2008 SM told this to Jack Durban
"I don't know how it works only that it does".
If you want to add to the base of knowledge find a schematic of the tripp -lite inverter used in the video
and post it,SM had to modify the inverter to get it to work with the tpu,remember its hes word that its 5khz to 6khz
ac on dc output.The tripp-lite inverter in the video is from 1990 to 1998 this is a guess,it
was used for moble homes.Then work backwards how do you modify an inverter to work on 120 to 170 volts,with a 5khz to 6khz ac hash
when its designed for 24 to 48 volt dc operation.The tpu could not handle a direct inductive load
that was one of its problems.SM worked alone
so nobody but him knows what was done to the inverter to get it to work with the tpu.
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Hello all,
@powerunlimited
sorry to say but what are you doing here? Why do you attac SM?? Sorry, I cant understand it. We are in a technical forum (I hope) and your posts are .....
For myself I can say that I dont care if SM is the devil in person (he is NOT) but he has something that I want:
a T P U
and only this counts for me.
And deeply in my heart I know that SM is not a bad guy. Somebody said that he is gay. So what!
That he is a excentric man. So what.
That he is a liar. So what.
That he has stolen the TPU. So what.
That he got millions. So what.
That he is here under another name ( welcome SM). So what if he is here?
That......
Enough of this crap.
Buj some wires and maybe wou will be able to figure out the TPU. If not, then stop to wright crap here or maybe somebody gives you money for your posts??
BUT NEVER FORGET: HE HAS THE TPU!! AND THE TPU IS REAL!!
Keep this always in your mind.
Otto
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Well otto:
Your not in a technical forum,your in a hero worship forum,your hero is very smart,a super master of deception,a kind of con man,greedy,selfserving,hes gay not thats evil,you believe that he won't lie to you thats a big mistake.You must question everything,you must examine everything ,failure to do this makes a person a fool.
You must be like water, water takes the form of the container its in,its not set in a solid form. Oh, by the way you have talked to SM a few times,you just didn't know it was him,I monitor this forum all the time.
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@powerunlimited
First I have to say that SM cant lie to me because my work is only mine and its a result of my little brain. and my 10 fingers.
But I dont see any logic: on one hand he wants that we build TPUs and on the other hand he would lie to us so we cant build TPUs.
Hmmmmm....no logic here.
I have started my work over 3 years ago and I knew that I have to learn, to build coils, TPUs and of course ask myself a lot of questions how and why....as Im really not a scientist a lot of times I cant explain myself whats goin on in my coils but that doesnt mean that I have to stop my work. So, if SM doent exactly know how his TPU works (I doubt) it doesnt matter. One day, when the TPU is finnished, others will figure out how the TPU exactly works. Hmmm....maybe.
Yes, I know and I supposed that I have talked to SM. What a honour for me!!!
Maybe one day SM is able to post his story, about himself and the TPU. If not, its not a disaster for me. I have accepted his "story" like Lindsay posted it and thats more then enough for me.
So, my advice to all people is that nobody should waste his time with wrighting a lot of stuff here about SM but try to build some coils and finally start to learn because its soooooo a nice "job".
Otto
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Oh, by the way you have talked to SM a few times,you just didn't know it was him,I monitor this forum all the time.
What, in your opinion, is the purpose of SM to be be active here in this forum?
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okey i gonna say stupid things :P
gravity ???
oregon vortex will messup gravity why?
if object is heavier and lighter in nice rhythm so "washboard?"
and ed leedskaln was funny man?
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@otto if building a tpu by your own hands makes you feel good thats fine,but if its not built
exactly as SM's tpu
there will be no overunity power generated.
@teslaalset SM's purpose here is to make sure no one ever
figures out how to build a working tpu,to mislead and misdirect.The release of the investor tpu videos were
the thing that brought him here.
The reason is simple, money,he gets a monthly amount I believe,the deal he made ends the moment
someone builds a tpu.There is a small chance that hes under a death threat
if someone builds a tpu that works it maybe assumed by the powers that be,that
he told that person information how to build it
then he dies.A real free energy device that works and that is simple to build
would be impossible to stop,the oil market would be destroyed overnight.
The majority of oil is used in transportation,
a tpu powering an electric car would make oil worthless,along with coal,natural gas
solar,windmills and nuclear, every energy market would go under.
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Sm said in the beginning it would replace all current battery technology and it was not a free energy device. This indicates to me that it is a power storage device. Or an accumulator. If he was able to charge his tpu prior to any demonstrations then what we see demonstrated is a discharge. The weight to power ratio appears to be in conformity with electrochemical accumulators and perhaps even higher. We have no idea how long it will be before the unit has to be recharged.
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The reason is simple, money,he gets a monthly amount I believe,the deal he made ends the moment
someone builds a tpu.
Those are your personal fictions.
The level of knowledge of some people in this forum should not be underestimated. If SM is threatened by powerful organizations they better hire professional people to disturb discussions here with at least EE level knowledge, not by threatening SM himself. So, in my opinion the so-called anti-SM posting can be from anybody but SM as well.
Introducing all kinds of conspiracy theories is a waste of effort.
They may be right, they may be wrong.
It will not stop enthusiasts from investigating. It's the best way to move forward, otherwise we would still live in caves. ;)
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Hi,
I hope this is not offtopic.
I read the pdf from otto&roberto on their TPU==ECD experiments.
Thats very nice - but their story how the mosfet emitts whatever is pretty mindboggling.
What really happens (and I´ve seen this on my bench quite often) is a power matching caused by thermal increase of the mosfet output resistance.
This mosfet is driving somewhat lc oscillator circuit (c is parasitic coil capacitance).
If the mosfet temperature rises (because connected L has quite low resistance) the output resistance of the mosfet increases (which even accelerates) the heating up.
As we know from rf - the optimum power transfer happens if the source impedance matches the load impedance.
As long as the mosfet is cold and the output impedance is low - it dampens the connected lc load.
On heating up the output resistance finally matches the load impedance - so what we see is thermal biasing.
Now the connected lc circuit gets pumped - and its even possible that the mosfet can cool down now - if it drops in an parallel resonance. This would even explain why the mosfet is in the end less cold than the attached cooler - because warming up is only necessary to start this.
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@all
Actually already posted in BLOCH WALL thread but thought I would post here as well.
I was searching youtube for TPU replications and came across this comment posted
to this video -
TPU V1.0 Experiments (Part 1)
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JackDurban
2 years ago I worked with Steven Mark. The magnet was a ruse. It closed a reed switch in the primary. Steven thought it would throw off analysis of snooping eyes during demos. He was the most paranoid person I ever met. By the way, if you want a little hint as to the device's basic make up and why it acted like a gyro in its resistance to motion pull Tesla's patent 381,970 circa 1888. Study the quadrature nature of the coils and disregard the rest. From there ask yourself why the specific resonant freq.
JackDurban 2 years ago see all
Video Responses"
Regards, Penno
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@fritz
In the end is the mosfet cooler than the heat sink? I was checking out rf currents in a fluresecent bulb trying to get a standing wave in the bulb to see if it would light it up. I was getting some moderate success but the transmitter was overheating with reflected signal. I terminated the antennae with a glass of water that I figured would add capacitance to the antennae and sure enough the lamp lit really well and transmitter cooled down like it wasnt even keyed. The bulb was lit way above the 4watt expectations and the antennae was putting out enough so that the modulation was busting into my kids guitar amp upstairs. I dont know if it was overunity or not but it was a great way to light a bulb not using any filament. I figured the bulb would run until the transistors wore out. It produced signal also. You could see yourself talk with intensity changes in the bulb. I was thinking this would be great for deaf people. They could see other people talk without lip reading.
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@fritz
In the end is the mosfet cooler than the heat sink?
in the end - well - is there an end ?
If there is an "end" means power dissipation of mosfet constant, temperatures constant, environment constant in the "end" - mosfet temperature and heatsink temperature should be identical.
I just speculated that there is thermal event or even thermal oscillation - which could cause different, variable heat.
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Hello all,
@fritz
in the "end" is the heatsink muuuuuch hotter then the MOSFET.
If the MOSFET would have the same temperature as the heatsink, the MOSFET would melt.
Otto
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Otto
How are you its been a long time hows the progress
I know your having a ball
Drop me a line when you get a chance
Nick
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I recently watched a video where De Palma was explaining his N-machine, homopolar generator. Magnets attached in copper disk and when disk is rotated you get electricity from the copper. Axle is one terminal and outer rim of disk is the other, this is the basic Faraday thingie. Then he said that it is not necessary to have the copper disk, it is enough to rotate the magnets and you can get electricity straight from the magnets. This implies that field of a magnet does not rotate with the magnet.
Some facts I have learned about SM TPU. It has a rotating magnetic field, so it is taken from Teslas trafo patent. In the video SM says that TPU needs a magnet to operate, does not work otherwise. SM also says that you need primary in different phase, to me this sounds that you need only one frequency to operate.
Now combine what De Palma has said with what SM has said, do you see the picture now ? Instead of rotating the magnet, magnet is stationary and you rotate magnetic field around the magnet instead. Magnet poles become your terminals. In order to get voltage, two magnets are combined together maybe using iron wire that is the core at the same time.
I think this is worthwhile to test. First of all, can you take electricity out from a magnet ? If true, how does this correlate to speed of field rotation ? Does core need to be aircore, iron or would higher permeability core make any difference ? How can you increase voltage if core is for example nanoperm or metglass ?
Tesla used iron, so maybe better to start with that. Also 1/4 L rule could be used, core is of length L and quadrants are of length L/4. Then sweep with signal generator for a sweet spot if any.
I am unable to test this, but I wanted to put the idea here since I haven't seen this approach mentioned anywhere. If someone has tried this then please post some links for results.
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Jack Noskills, I think your points are good and I've also come across info recently that said there was success with just using one frequency rather than 3 frequencies but that one frequency needed to be 3 different phases.
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Hey guys, the TPU does not need a magnet to operate. It was smoke and mirrors for the investors. Closed a reed switch to start the oscillations. Also used to protect the controllerfrom the IM products messing the freqs. It also had a small battery.
Cheers,
Bruce
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Jack Noskills, I think your points are good and I've also come across info recently that said there was success with just using one frequency rather than 3 frequencies but that one frequency needed to be 3 different phases.
Well, 1 frequency and 3 phases is exactly what Bob Boyce's Hex Controller we reprogrammed to do in order to achieve the self-charging characteristics demonstrated in wacky1's 5 YouTube videos. It's also what I've provided in the form of a non-micro-based, programmable digital controller to accomplish the same task ... almost ready to test.
More NEWS at 11:00. Later,
Greg