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FatBird

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Re: SM's TPU SUMMARY. What We Know So Far.
« Reply #45 on: May 07, 2010, 02:49:04 AM »
Good points Otto.

kooler

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« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2010, 05:38:30 AM »
i know i will get some beef from this but who cares ..
i built this device that i tested for a few months..
while seeing how long it would run before it died it went down sometime while i was outside talking ..
so i will quess 30 mins it took to melt the coatings off the transformer windings..
since then i have looked for and built different circuits to run it..
i built this thing in 4 months after reading the pdf file i downloaded here in this forum  ..
my old one wasn't built like a tpu .. i had my aircore coils on two spools..
so when i get more time i am going to build it like sm tpu
mine uses one 9volt battery.. two small transformers.. two bifiliar aircoils
my new one i am going to try to use jt type circuits on the transformers instead of the pnp-npn circuit
before i could get the first to work i had to use iron powder core toroids or iron e cores..

you can call me what you want.. it won't bother me
but i do not make storys up.. so i am hoping for a good power conversion next time..

robbie

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Re: SM's TPU SUMMARY. What We Know So Far.
« Reply #47 on: May 07, 2010, 08:20:26 AM »
Hello all,

@kooler

its not wrong to work. Sometimes in a good direction and sometimes we build s..t.  But the point is that we have to work, to test and its nice to share.

It doesnt matter if people dont understand or dont WANT to understand what you have builded. The point is to LEARN.

In the last 3 years working every free minute on a TPU solution I have learned a lot but.....still not enough.

So, in short, dont be afraid of some people here that already have a working TPU and will call you a misleader or bullshitter because of your posts. Your work is  welcome. Why not. (I would love to have a new nickname).

I have also written in the last 3 years a lot of bad posts and maybe some good.

But Im all the time wondering, as I said yesterday, I dont see any drawings and test results from the people that did the TPU job.

I mean ,they made claims like "I did it" or "I have it" or....they have shown us videos and a lot of bla,bla was going on here but ....still no drawings.

But deep in my heart I know that nobody knows whats really going on in a TPU. Just my feeling. No further comments on this.

My email adress is shown here.

Otto


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« Reply #48 on: May 07, 2010, 12:55:09 PM »
otto

lets talk about whats going on ... 

you pulse a low volt signal to a coil ...  when you cut the pulse .. it is then fired to the collector .. the control squeezes the collector current and induces it ! 

well now the inputted engery that put the collector engery there in the first place squezes it ..  thus self induceing ... via a coil wound on another .. 

or take the collecter give it a dc source ... power 1 control like a jt .. take the output of that control fire the dc fed collecter and another control ..

i have many ways ... all work the same useing the colpase of the first control to modulate the rest ..

ist

and a tpu is a joke ... i can do the same with my cascade amp ...  useing transformers

otto

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« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2010, 01:47:01 PM »
Hello all,

@IST

just a short one:

what do you think why has the US gouvernment "forbidden", "hided", or what ever, the TPU??

If you think its about some coils and caps and the usual s..t then Im sorry.

Again, why is the TPU not in public? Because SM loves to play with us??

Because its a little bit overunity? Or a lot of overunity?

Just think about this. And then wou will maybe understand that a TPU is something special.

Otto

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« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2010, 02:04:54 PM »
otto think about this ... 

why IS MY MOTOR NOT BUILT PUBLIC ... 

MAYBE IT KICKS THE SHIT OUT OF EVERY TPU !

do ya think ? 

lol

maybe its self running with massive torque ... maybe .... 

maybe  it dont need a battery ... maybe it operates on MY KICK ... YA THINK ..

OR DO YA ?

here is a video of the IST MINI POWER STACK POWER SUPPLY MODULE 

i explain feed back in this video .. to source and to motor source .. so as it runs with gain ...

i can add a switch so now it runs on its self ....

HUMMMMMM 

IST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDKiHRh0Ef4

FatBird

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« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2010, 03:00:44 PM »
@ Kooler,     know i will get some beef from this but who cares ..  i built this device that i tested for a few months.. while seeing how long it would run before it died it went down sometime while i was outside talking .. so i will quess 30 mins it took to melt the coatings off the transformer windings..  since then i have looked for and built different circuits to run it..  i built this thing in 4 months after reading the pdf file i downloaded here in this forum  ..  my old one wasn't built like a tpu .. i had my aircore coils on two spools..  so when i get more time i am going to build it like sm tpu mine uses one 9volt battery.. two small transformers.. two bifiliar aircoils my new one i am going to try to use jt type circuits on the transformers instead of the pnp-npn circuit before i could get the first to work i had to use iron powder core toroids or iron e cores.. you can call me what you want.. it won't bother me, but i do not make storys up.. so i am hoping for a good power conversion next time..

robbie

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Thank you for sharing your story Robbie.

That's how we all learn.

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« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2010, 03:56:54 AM »
Like the rest of you, I've been wasting lots of time and thought trying to figure out a path between the TPU clues and a final product that works.

Here's another aspect of the mystery:  try to explain the gyro effect.  Given that the toroid is open, I doubt that you can attribute it to a spinning internal object.  That leaves us with one tough challenge, namely, produce centrifugal force or an actual gravitational field DIRECTLY by a rotating magnetic field.  I doubt that you can attribute it to any flow of electron masses unless you come up with a completely new kind of electricity that goes way beyond drift velocity.


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« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2010, 04:00:18 AM »
alright guys..
i am not responsible for any harm to you from this device of any kind..
so don't call on me if you burn your house down or burn yourself.. or what ever may happen..
 with that said..
i hope you guys are smart enough to use your own brain to add values to the components to get 5-6khz..
and you will need a scope to watch the tank circuits just so you don't push to much energy back in it and to see when the right feq is hit.. you will also feel it running once it pulls up to speed..
it took me two very long days to tune the tanks.. cause i do not know the math
there is a slight ou effect in the aircoils between the transformers and once feed back it will grow stronger
and you can use just one circuit to run both transformers or two.. theres a bunch of ways to build this.. if your not affraid to fail a couple hundred times..
with so slight changes to the diagram below it lite a 60 watt for 5-6 mins
intill one day i would see how long will it go and 30 mins later good bye transformers..
so don't whine at me if you can't get it to work.. because it takes alot of time to adjust..below is my first setup it worked with some fine tuning .. when i get some extra time i will make a better schematic and if all goes well a video..
my life is very busy at the moment..
so i am hoping you guys can improve this ..
(final thought) i hope this doesn't back fire on me..

 

Tito L. Oracion

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« Reply #54 on: May 08, 2010, 02:55:49 PM »

And not to forget, the wires are only to get kicks, little kicks!! and a rotation!!! Dont forget this.

Otto

ya, and this is the secret hmmmmm......  ;D

converting little kicks from antenna wires into a big kicks...

So therefore if we have thousands of little kicks then we have thousands of big kick isn't it?

Then to transfer the energy to the collector is to rotate that kicks?  ???  ;D

wow amazing ........  ;D

kooler

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« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2010, 02:36:00 AM »
i thought i mind tell you guys the turns on the aircoil has to do with how current coming out the transformer..
and if you guys didn't notice the transformers are connected in reverse to each other.. negative to positive..
may explain why there is a gyro effect cause of the current flowing from neg to pos all the time thru the aircoil..
but whatever..

robbie

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Re: SM's TPU SUMMARY. What We Know So Far.
« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2010, 03:21:05 AM »
i thought i mind tell you guys the turns on the aircoil has to do with how current coming out the transformer..
and if you guys didn't notice the transformers are connected in reverse to each other.. negative to positive..
may explain why there is a gyro effect cause of the current flowing from neg to pos all the time thru the aircoil..
but whatever..

robbie

Robbie this looks like a very interesting circuit!  I will build and test this after you get the time to make a video and give a few more details.

Keep up the good work!

 :)

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« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2010, 08:35:51 AM »
Hello all,

I cant anymore open the overunity.com site with MY PC so Im sitting on another to wright this. We have here over 800 PCs so I have a lot of possibilities.

@Tito

I didnt say anything about SMs secret. Not the last 2 weeks.

@Kooler

now you have almost a "Sweet device". Remember the "Sweet drawing"?
You need collectors.

Otto

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« Reply #58 on: May 12, 2010, 07:51:00 AM »
About 2 1/2 years ago a newbie user here with only one post (and still only one post) put up a one line question about a diagram which no one responded to (in a barely related TPU discussion).  I found the diagram extremely interesting as it certainly looks a lot like the TPU.   It resembles more the open core one SM had that was a lower voltage unit.  Has anyone else seen this or knows where it came from beside the other message thread here)?  It says it should produce COP >1    It even seems to have a lot of similarity to the last drawing Mannix showed for the TPU possible winding in his message thread. 


FatBird

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« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2010, 09:48:32 PM »
Thank you for posting that possible TPU diagram. 

However, I don't see any similarity between that one & SMs TPU shown below.

I really wish there was some kind of similarity, but I just don't see it.  As can be seen below, SM's TPU only has 4 separate Coils.

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