Author Topic: SM's TPU SUMMARY. What We Know So Far. (Read 51407 times)

innovation_station · « **Reply #30 on:** May 05, 2010, 03:33:23 AM »

Quote from: FatBird on May 05, 2010, 03:09:04 AM

It seems like SM used at least 1 Toroid on all of his TPUs.

Is it possible that the 90 degree delay between the Toroid Coils SEQUENCES the Coils on the TPUs, thus getting the rotating magnetic field?

.

a rotating magnetic feild can made from a single wire ..

but my switch method must be employed ..

regards ..

ist

but then the question arizes does the feild ever even rotate at all ? lol

i beleave it does not .. as your simply pulseing electro magnets in sequeance

it would apear to rotate but infact it is not .. same thing can be said for the jt and an led it flashes so fast it aapears constant to the human osbserver but in fact it is not constant dc ..

unless you make it such ..

e2matrix · « **Reply #31 on:** May 05, 2010, 05:02:02 AM »

@Fatbird thanks for starting this excellent thread. Great for those of us here who haven't been on the forum for 3 years. Although I've been reading about the TPU for over 10 years IIRC and have been researching like things for about twice as long.
I'm wondering if the fact that he is using audio frequencies (5Khz) in this might be setting up a vibration in something (magnet?) that would have something to do with the gyro effect. Just a guess although the idea of a rotating magnetic field sounds more interesting. A couple of the pics look like I'm seeing a magnet or magnets in them. Does anyone know if they do or do not definitely have a magnet in them? I'm just thinking about the electricity amplifying effect GK mentioned and I saw gotoluc do with a couple magnets from a thread about 2 years ago (here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4124.0;topicseen ).

After thinking about it I'll go with the rotating magnetic field being sequentially fired by the control coils. At least for the moment it fits in with my idea of something that could produce a near runaway power effect that SM says can happen. Is this something that is already known ? -- that the control coils are pulsed in sequence around the circle - round and round inducing power into the larger collector coil? Also in the open one pictured that looks like 2 pieces of dark metal? where are the collector coils? In that one I'm assuming the dark material is metal with a split somewhere and so it's just like a one turn coil or split toroid which may draw power from the 2 ends? Remember the Russian that was lighting a bulb when connected to each end of a long nail or even a drill bit that ran through a split copper tube? Well I'm probably rambling now about stuff everyone already knows. But if not maybe somewhere in the ramble is some food for thought

giantkiller · « **Reply #32 on:** May 05, 2010, 05:23:29 AM »

The process is effecting the Bloch wall. The magnet keeps it in tact at a speed greater than 'c' / SOL. Refer to ttBrown, leedskalnin.
When you twist it the field wants equilibrium there fore snaps back. This can cause a discharge or power movement. Refer to Kunel patent. The weak field can be used from a cabinet magnet or between two poles of 2 electromagnets in air. The gap between them. Refer Don Smith PVC coil.
The field can only be mangled or enhanced when in the way of a shock conduction. Tis better to jack it in air/ less power is needed. This is what Magnacoaster is doing. Or 2 coils in resonance at 90 degrees causes this twist also. They want to connect. Refer to Leedskalnin, Bibhas De.

Look again with this new information for now your eyes are wide open.

--gk. I'll be back in 2 weeks.

Quote from: e2matrix on May 05, 2010, 05:02:02 AM

@Fatbird thanks for starting this excellent thread. Great for those of us here who haven't been on the forum for 3 years. Although I've been reading about the TPU for over 10 years IIRC and have been researching like things for about twice as long.
I'm wondering if the fact that he is using audio frequencies (5Khz) in this might be setting up a vibration in something (magnet?) that would have something to do with the gyro effect. Just a guess although the idea of a rotating magnetic field sounds more interesting. A couple of the pics look like I'm seeing a magnet or magnets in them. Does anyone know if they do or do not definitely have a magnet in them? I'm just thinking about the electricity amplifying effect GK mentioned and I saw gotoluc do with a couple magnets from a thread about 2 years ago (here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4124.0;topicseen ).

After thinking about it I'll go with the rotating magnetic field being sequentially fired by the control coils. At least for the moment it fits in with my idea of something that could produce a near runaway power effect that SM says can happen. Is this something that is already known ? -- that the control coils are pulsed in sequence around the circle - round and round inducing power into the larger collector coil? Also in the open one pictured that looks like 2 pieces of dark metal? where are the collector coils? In that one I'm assuming the dark material is metal with a split somewhere and so it's just like a one turn coil or split toroid which may draw power from the 2 ends? Remember the Russian that was lighting a bulb when connected to each end of a long nail or even a drill bit that ran through a split copper tube? Well I'm probably rambling now about stuff everyone already knows. But if not maybe somewhere in the ramble is some food for thought

e2matrix · « **Reply #33 on:** May 05, 2010, 05:42:36 AM »

Thanks GK - I'm taking notes and doing my homework

I've got notes saved and patents saved from all those people too. I bought Don Smith's book many years ago too. I had just been playing with a coil last night on my signal generator and when I held a magnet near it at lower frequencies (low audio) you could really feel the vibration of the magnet. That's where I got the idea it might have some relevance here but now I think otherwise.

By 'c' are your referring to the speed of light? I gotta ask what SOL is as I'm not familiar with that term except in 'sh** outa luck'

Maybe I'll find it after doing my homework...

giantkiller · « **Reply #34 on:** May 05, 2010, 06:28:14 AM »

Yep. Speed of light.
Be careful grabbing the magnets. They can cause harm to you. Duct tape them to a wooden stick and the apply them that way.
You gotta scope?

e2matrix · « **Reply #35 on:** May 05, 2010, 07:16:11 AM »

Got 3 scopes - one digital goes to 400 Mhz. One is broken for now and one is lost in my pile of stuff but at least the best one is working and on the bench. Thanks for the warning on the magnets - it was a small coil and fairly low power but I do prefer to be as careful as possible as I'm too old to be thrashing body parts.

zapnic · « **Reply #36 on:** May 05, 2010, 01:18:50 PM »

he he waterhose
your hand is control coil and hose is collector coil
if you squeeze hose and release and squeeze and release ha ha ha
its like inrush water everbody knows that
or get squeezing hose water start to pack and water pressure will qrow if you dont release it then hose will break or your hand will slip ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx92LjLi894

FatBird · « **Reply #37 on:** May 05, 2010, 01:35:04 PM »

@Eighthman,

Could someone help me in regard to these "8 inch" pictures. I'm not clear on what I'm seeing. First, are these black rings plastic? Second, is this the whole TPU or was some kind of external toroid wound around everything? Why are there two parallel black rings? Was this double ring assembly just a piece of junk lying around that he used? The large gauge control coils look like a well established rotating field design using 3 switched coils.

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1. The Black Rings are plastic, which were removed from a black version of that Finned Speaker System shown on Page 1 of this thread. He could have used some wood or cardboard rings, but SM worked in a video, sound, & speaker store, so the plastic rings were CONVENIENT to BUILD the TPU & wind the coils on.

The bottom line is that SM had to have some kind of PHYSICAL FRAME to wind the coils on, hold the 9V battery, circuit board, Toroid, capacitors, etc.

2. SM's TPU windings are in 2 parts, Control Coils that produce the rotating field, & the Collector Coils that HARVEST the juice. So far, nobody here has been able to reproduce SMâ€™s TPU design.

3. Here are the links to watch SMâ€™s HISTORIC VIDEOS.

http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=167210479374903373#

http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=167210479374903373#docid=-1944827568401901581

http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=167210479374903373#docid=6398496868568110910

Thank you for your interest.

.

innovation_station · « **Reply #38 on:** May 05, 2010, 01:51:42 PM »

take a peice of wire and turn it off and on good god sm is going down the tubes !

lol

fattie should tie into a fattie or 2 might wake him ...

lmfao

almost looks like a YOKE .. DONT IT ? MAYBE AN OLD ONE ... SM WAS A TV GUY ... HUMMMM THINK IT USES THE FLYBACK .... HE WORKED FOR RCA ... HE WAS ASSIGNED THE CASE OF THE EXPLODING TV ...

IT HAS BEEN YEARS SINCE I READ THE SM STORY .. but certain aspects stick in my mind ...

and otto dissing tesla ... burn bitch !

IST

you want something you CANT EXPLAIN BUILD MY OTTO ADVANCE AND YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ..

IT IS A FEED BACK LOOP USEING THE OUTPUT AFTER IT LITES THE BULB ..

otto · « **Reply #39 on:** May 05, 2010, 02:01:29 PM »

Hello all,

@Eighthman

Im not the brightest here but .....this 2 rings, for me they are rings made with a metal alloy. NO FERROUS!! We have already the information that plastic works too but.....

So far we know is this a complete TPU .... what a clever question!! Im not sarcastic! What if the open TPU is showing us "only" the inside of a TPU?? The "heart"? Just loud thinking.
The 2 paralel rings....I suppose that in 1 ring the particles are circling in CW and in the other ring in the CCW direction. If we wouldnt seperate this 2 motions of the particles the result would be a very high current from power supply.

Please, dont even mention that SM used some junk in his devices. When he builded his TPUs he knew exactly what he needed.

As I see there are 4 coils for a rotation, but 3 can also work.

And I hope that people know that the end design needs a microprocessor.

As said, Im not the brightest and I know that my answers are not the best.

Otto

innovation_station · « **Reply #40 on:** May 05, 2010, 02:12:17 PM »

THIS IS UTTER TRASH !

NO OTHER WORDS DESCRIBE IT !

QUITE SO WELL

a micro controller bull shit !

i need not A SINGLE TRANSISTOR .. NOR A TUBE .. FOR MY TRUTH

beleave me i have some verry high quality tube toys

IST

NOW YOU WANNA PLAY TUBES .. IT CAN BE ARRANGED ... !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quFKg5bg3Wc

innovation_station · « **Reply #41 on:** May 05, 2010, 02:47:10 PM »

so why did i show you my tube toys ?

cuz you want to rotate something ... in ordor to SPINN things .. true spinn sm's method must be employed ...

does that make ya feel better ?

you must start the rotation and not let it stop ...

to do this a core material must be used ..

you will have extrnal effects .. depending on a few things .. core material and winding and wireing configurations ..

if you go pulsed dc floating on radiating ac or spikes .. at the proper angles .. odd shit happins ..

ist

aswell you get into a big pile of shit !

so keep it simple stupid ..

why the feed back oscolator any ways .. does it keep its time .. ? that way .. ? lol

i can ride my bike with no handle bars ...
my unit works with no metranome .. no metranome .. : )

i can tell the tale through a MICROPHONE A MICROPHONE .. !

btw this is where 3 swings being pushed in the correct synced time comes into play ...

hummmmmm

what more can i say ... i guess if you miss understood my kick i guess you miss understood my kick !

innovation_station · « **Reply #42 on:** May 05, 2010, 03:13:05 PM »

Quote from: zapnic on May 05, 2010, 01:18:50 PM

he he waterhose
your hand is control coil and hose is collector coil
if you squeeze hose and release and squeeze and release ha ha ha
its like inrush water everbody knows that
or get squeezing hose water start to pack and water pressure will qrow if you dont release it then hose will break or your hand will slip ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx92LjLi894

nice ! where did you come from i missed your post !

lol lol

ha ha ha

ist

: )

thumbs up

here is a mini tpu 3 freq basic transistor junk non freq dependent ... i can fire any i choose it is based on core material ..
ist 5555 coil btw my scope is maxed 20 mhz ... where you see the clean wave ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhPwuxk7T2g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5U_Jq8G50Y&feature=related
look the lovely waves .. : )

now tell me agin how i dont need a core .. build a bigone no core and have the mib up your ass or the fcc ..

hummmm

http://www.youtube.com/user/innovationstation#p/u/19/g1f9p08HRHg

kooler · « **Reply #43 on:** May 06, 2010, 05:30:58 AM »

Quote from: otto on May 05, 2010, 02:01:29 PM

The 2 paralel rings....I suppose that in 1 ring the particles are circling in CW and in the other ring in the CCW direction. If we wouldnt seperate this 2 motions of the particles the result would be a very high current from power supply.

Please, dont even mention that SM used some junk in his devices. When he builded his TPUs he knew exactly what he needed.

As I see there are 4 coils for a rotation, but 3 can also work.

And I hope that people know that the end design needs a microprocessor.

As said, Im not the brightest and I know that my answers are not the best.

Otto

what if i told you those are just two induction coils.. but appear to be 4 coils..
and its not a rotating magnetic field.. well not what most ppl think of .. its a rotating induction field..
and a 5-6 khz is a near must.. and hard to do..
would you believe me.. hahaha

robbie

otto · « **Reply #44 on:** May 06, 2010, 08:00:57 AM »

Hello all,

it seems that a lot of people here have working TPUs but NOT me.

But Im not frustrated. Hmmm....this should be a technical forum (maybe one day) but I miss drawings of such TPUs, results, measurements.....

As its early in the morning it seems that Im dreaming.

Otto

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