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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 688121 times)

Offline shadowpt

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #375 on: April 15, 2013, 05:27:53 PM »
So, as I said before, the geneva expo would be the final conclusion to wether Yildiz is a scammer or not and it has showed us that he is indeed a scammer.

The motor kept having problems over and over again when until the expo it never had a single problem, they had a backup motor (a smaller one) but it was not fit for work demonstration instead it was purely for visualization only.

The live feed never went up with the intent of showing the motor runing non-stop with excuses that in the first day the internet there wasn't good enough so they got a better one and... nothing, no live feed again.

No tests were conducted during the moments where the motor batteries had juice, again no scientific results were delivered.

With all this scam and tactics to avoid showing the truth about the machine it ended up making it the final nail in his coffin and along with it the PesWiki network has lost a huge amount of donators and people that were actually looking forward to decent reports, instead they were giving "christian hope" talk and a truly biased person that is fully promoting a scam, probably even getting a share of the money from Yildiz (wouldn't doubt it after what happened).

Case closed, Yildiz is a scammer, J.Duarte is another proof that Brazillians are into free energy scams again and Sterling has lost his credibility.

I am sad to say that I was right all along, a machine concept like that is really something that I truly want to be made reality but history and science prevails strong for another day.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #375 on: April 15, 2013, 05:27:53 PM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #376 on: April 15, 2013, 05:46:28 PM »
thanks for clarifying @markdansie.b.t.w.,that eefg is probably the first properly working 2nd law violation that you have seen,probably rectification of random current at expense of ambient heat in my opinion,ie.massive dark current.if you take a infrared photo of it while in action you may see sharp distinction of cold and warm sections on it.the principal behind that thing is by no means limited to just that thing and i dont believe that that will be the last 2nd law violation that you will see sir.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #377 on: April 15, 2013, 06:04:34 PM »
@jouleseeker,youre doing light water electrolysis?may i ask if youve seen any sign of excess heat yet?have you tried a larger variety of cathodes than just nickel?ive always wondered if there are elements that might trump nickel and tungsten and of course palladium for lenr purposes. 

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #377 on: April 15, 2013, 06:04:34 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #378 on: April 15, 2013, 08:09:15 PM »
So, as I said before, the geneva expo would be the final conclusion to wether Yildiz is a scammer or not and it has showed us that he is indeed a scammer.

The motor kept having problems over and over again when until the expo it never had a single problem, they had a backup motor (a smaller one) but it was not fit for work demonstration instead it was purely for visualization only.

The live feed never went up with the intent of showing the motor runing non-stop with excuses that in the first day the internet there wasn't good enough so they got a better one and... nothing, no live feed again.

No tests were conducted during the moments where the motor batteries had juice, again no scientific results were delivered.

With all this scam and tactics to avoid showing the truth about the machine it ended up making it the final nail in his coffin and along with it the PesWiki network has lost a huge amount of donators and people that were actually looking forward to decent reports, instead they were giving "christian hope" talk and a truly biased person that is fully promoting a scam, probably even getting a share of the money from Yildiz (wouldn't doubt it after what happened).

Case closed, Yildiz is a scammer, J.Duarte is another proof that Brazillians are into free energy scams again and Sterling has lost his credibility.

I am sad to say that I was right all along, a machine concept like that is really something that I truly want to be made reality but history and science prevails strong for another day.
Did you go to Geneva?
Me yes, one car travel day, and I saw a working magnet engin. Not like mine that always finish to stop without I want.
But I also saw physician professor  that was not able to present any argument to the Dutch camera, but continue to criticize without taking any risc that they get any proof of his missing of open mind in the future.
But forum are also like this. It is easy to stay hidden and criticize without knowledge.

I can say like Gallilée about the earth "and yet it rotates".

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #379 on: April 15, 2013, 08:14:04 PM »
Maybe that work because of an gyroscopic effect is present, this video can be an answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OWRyYYX7JxE

In fact, I don't know very much but maybe.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #379 on: April 15, 2013, 08:14:04 PM »
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Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #380 on: April 15, 2013, 09:21:14 PM »
In fact, I don't know very much but maybe.

In fact you say anything, the gyroscopique effect does not attract and move Coin, and has no gauss value.
You are in the wrong thread.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #381 on: April 15, 2013, 11:35:01 PM »
Hi Profits
not sure if it is a violation of any laws, we are not sure what is powering it at this stage, will be fun to find out.
I also agree it will be the only example if it is
Kind Regards


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #381 on: April 15, 2013, 11:35:01 PM »
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Offline shadowpt

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #382 on: April 15, 2013, 11:44:36 PM »
Did you go to Geneva?
Me yes, one car travel day, and I saw a working magnet engin. Not like mine that always finish to stop without I want.
But I also saw physician professor that was not able to present any argument to the Dutch camera, but continue to criticize without taking any risc that they get any proof of his missing of open mind in the future.
But forum are also like this. It is easy to stay hidden and criticize without knowledge.

I can say like Gallilée about the earth "and yet it rotates".

I don't need to go to Geneva to see more than what it has been shown after his 15 years of scam. No proof, no tests, no fully open after working motor, not a dime. In fact there is a lot of proof that it is in fact a scam.

He made a bigger motor for geneva than the one he had before and said he was going to take there, which has a bigger housing for more batteries.
He changed the fan to a much less load intensive one, a RC toy plane fan which was suppose to run for the entire duration of the Expo.
Since taking away the motor to change the batteries would be too much of a scandal he decided to come up with some lame excuse that there was a problem with it and because of that he couldn't make it work again. He had a smaller motor as backup but it was only for visualization so thats that. He said that some of the 1200 magnets broke when the motor doesn't even have space for more than 250, right there he lied.
Not one renowned person in this kind of field has ever demonstrated any interest in such "miraculous" machine because they know better, not even after all the publicity stunts they pulled.


Now if you still want to keep your blind belief going that is ok with me but don't try to shove it down my throat when you have absolutely nothing to backup Yildiz's claims and I can tell you this:

Notice when he does that magician trick with the hammer to start the motor? Did you notice how damn fast that thing spins to the top speed that is being held by the lenz coils so the machine won't destroy itself? Now pay close attention because this is the best part...
The machine starts up instantly to top speed, which means that the magnetic load is very strong. The motor has no electric parts, we both know that, right? Those wires are just the lenz coils, they are not connected anywhere so we can discard them.

But what happens when he strikes with the hammer again? Does it stop instantly? As per the opposite of the starting point as it should? Since it is a mechanical device which achieves top speed instantly then it is under load before start which means that it is under load after stopping aswell so... why doesn't it stop instantly? It is a brake afterall, he said it himself "the starting and stopping mechanism is a brake that holds the main shaft in place" but instead it goes down slowly until it stops on its own, as if it was a electric motor runing and then turned off... Why won't it stop instantly when the break is activated?

Because it is a electric motor and because it is a scam, for 15 years the guy has been playing the same tune and no one has ever noticed this? Come on, humanity...

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #383 on: April 16, 2013, 12:32:57 AM »
just take an infrared shot of it while its working mark.if its cooler than ambient on one side of the disk then its definitly a 2nd law bust.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #383 on: April 16, 2013, 12:32:57 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #384 on: April 16, 2013, 01:14:31 AM »
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just take an infrared shot of it while its working mark.if its cooler than ambient on one side of the disk then its definitly a 2nd law bust.

The "don't be shy" test for the show would have been a real load, say 1000 watts.  They claim the motor outputs 20 horsepower, so that would not be an issue.

Simple setup:  Motor driving an alternator.  The alternator connects to a transformer that bumps the voltage up to 120 VAC.  You connect that up to a basic cooking grill, so the frequency doesn't have to be 60 Hz.  During the whole show you cook hotdogs on the grill and give them away.  Have continuous monitoring of the RMS voltage on the grill, you don't even need an ammeter.  (The grill has to be big enough to be on all the time, which I am guessing is not an issue.)  Edit:  Just put a big pot of water on the grill to boil.  Then the grill can be on all the time without a risk of it going into thermonuclear meltdown.

That test is a reasonable test to do based on the claims.  A real-world test like that is the way to make your case.  The fact that a simple test like this is never done is implicit proof that this is a scam.

Think heat not cold!

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #385 on: April 16, 2013, 03:26:02 AM »
Dear All,


Very whise? words from every one here!


Can some one than also explain, why the coins are sticking at the outside of his Magnet-Motor?



Kind regards,
Johan Oostrom


www.oostrom-technics.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/OostromTechnicsSL

The coins are sticking because they are ferromagnetic, and the motor contains a bunch of strong magnets inside it. In many countries with fiat currency, the coins are actually some cheap metal like iron, or steel, which are attracted to magnetic fields, or zinc, which is diamagnetic and is slightly repelled by them. Then the coins are plated or coated with some colorful shiny metal that looks like copper, silver, or gold. I'm glad you live in a country where the banksters don't do this funny game with money. Or do you?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #386 on: April 16, 2013, 03:28:16 AM »
Maybe that work because of an gyroscopic effect is present, this video can be an answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OWRyYYX7JxE

In fact, I don't know very much but maybe.

At least you admit it...    ;)


Please take a look at the website of the publishers of that interesting video. That one is a good one, but it's not my personal favourite.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #387 on: April 16, 2013, 03:33:45 AM »
just take an infrared shot of it while its working mark.if its cooler than ambient on one side of the disk then its definitly a 2nd law bust.

Disagree. Given the data: say that a measurement of a cooler-than-ambient side was confirmed as accurate. How many other explanations can you, or anyone else, think of for that measurement to exist? There may be many, that do not violate 2LoT at all. Not until you rule out _each and every one_ of those possible alternative explanations, preferably by experiment, may you reasonably assert "then its definitly a 2nd law bust". Sorry, but that's just the way it goes. And that is _if_ the measurement is accurate, reliable, obtained without bias or fraud, repeatable.... etc etc. If not, so much the worse for the "definite bust".

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #388 on: April 16, 2013, 06:56:09 AM »
Hi for all,

As I told you, I've got evidence that the Yildiz´s motor is a scam, and STERLING IS THE BIGGEST STUPID for failing to investigate anything.

He based his conclusions only for the videos on YouTube, and the Yildiz words. Never was critical ... or  think: what could be behind this?
Thousands of times in the PES forum was said: Sterling, the power must be measured!
He didn´t listen anyone from his own forum!!.

Well, the truth has been revealed: the Yildiz´s motor is a big fake and a BIG SCAM.

I have spoken with 7 (seven) professors of TU Delft, and 1 (one) professor of TU Eindhoven, and all confirmed the same thing: the Yildiz motor´s is a BIG FAKE.

But I've gone a step further: I could got the telephone from a ex-partner of Yildiz who knows how the scam is made.
The secret is very simple: the Yildiz´s motors has a battery hidden in the bottom. The engine does not work more than 4 hours.

The problem is this person speaks german and I don't. Is there anybody in the forum that speaks german? Please, send me a PM for coordinate.

When the scam to be exposed, I would like the truth to be known not only in Overunity.com, but also in PES forum, and all the radios where Steling was promoting the Yildiz´s motor. Let us not allow the scams.

Many things might just be sabotaging the free energy movement: the lack of critical thinking and stupidity.

STERLING: Only a few calls were enough, and did not need to do this whole charade!!

Money back who paid for your trip to Geneva.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #389 on: April 16, 2013, 08:34:36 AM »
No proof, no tests, no fully open after working motor, not a dime. In fact there is a lot of proof that it is in fact a scam.
My dog is able to hunt; I never need to open it to see how.
On this forum, everybody is able to criticize, but nobody have ability to propose something working better than the M.Yildiz engine.
I try myself to build a magnet engine, and on the small Yildiz engine I recognized in Geneva (because I went in Geneva palexpo) magnet motor behavior. I have a long career in industry in electrotechnic, and the Yildiz engine has not the behavior of any kind of electrical engine that I know.
If you tread Yilidiz as hustler without any proof, I can say the same about you all rumor maker(s). And I ask myself if it is not you  (perhaps only one person) which are paid buy fuel company to avoid that free energy solution may born. You, honest people, think about that.
All these scam hunters are all hidden troll on this forum.

But if you are so well informed about battery having so much power, I'd like that you give reference of these batteries. And also electronics that allow simulate the magnet motor behavior without heating.

When you say
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I have spoken with 7 (seven) professors of TU Delft, and 1 (one) professor of TU Eindhoven, and all confirmed the same thing: the Yildiz motor´s is a BIG FAKE.[/qoute]Why these courageous professors do not post an interview on Youtube on their names, not again behind a troll avatar. But if what you say is true (I have doubt) Yildiz need to change to more professional team (but I had a talk with M.Duart and other Dutch people in Geneva and I do not hear what you say).


 

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