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Author Topic: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev  (Read 156179 times)

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #135 on: February 03, 2011, 10:30:37 PM »
i'll accept that as another tacit admission that you cannot provide a cogent reply...  ::)

still keeping score chet? that's another loss for omni in case you lost track...

No, that's not your win because I gave you ample set of examples about the differences in approach. As for the concrete cases it's up to you to look for such and I'm not admitting anything in telling you this. That's another example of your flawed thinking -- wishing the imagined to be real.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #135 on: February 03, 2011, 10:30:37 PM »

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #136 on: February 03, 2011, 10:36:26 PM »
No, that's not your win because I gave you ample set of examples about the differences in approach. As for the concrete cases it's up to you to look for such and I'm not admitting anything in telling you this. That's another example of your flawed thinking -- wishing the imagined to be real.
yes it is my win, and no, you didn't give any examples of a different type of logic being used. which is exactly why it is my win... ::)
your tacit admission has already been accepted. if/when you can show how and where a different type (a type that does not use inductive or deductive reasoning) of logic is used in a court case, then your tacit admission will be allowed to be withdrawn.

i've repeatedly asked you to show some, ANY evidence of your claim... you cannot, so you refuse.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #137 on: February 03, 2011, 10:40:32 PM »
These very serious flaws in thinking, an example of which we see demonstrated by our friend, overwhelming among the representatives of the soft sciences in concert with the dishonesty of the very few competent in the hard sciences make it so that society is conditioned to accept violation of CoE only if it sees a self-sustaining device. Under normal conditions, provided sciences functioned according to the scientific method (a method they only pay lip service to nowadays) violation of CoE would heve been accepted in the mainstream long ago. There are categorical proofs for CoE violation which should already be in the standard literature used in colleges and universities. And what's even worse, the direct practical application of already discovered machines producing excess energy, hasn't yet found its place in the radar screens of the R&D labs, conditioned by the severe suppression of this important finding through propaganda and intimidadation. And, of course, aided by  the deliberately muddled thinking of the scientific part of society, as mentioned.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #137 on: February 03, 2011, 10:40:32 PM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #138 on: February 03, 2011, 10:45:47 PM »
You repeatedly asked me about something I already repeatedly answered. I know you want very much  the win to be yours but it isn't, unfortunately.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #139 on: February 03, 2011, 10:48:50 PM »
These very serious flaws in thinking, an example of which we see demonstrated by our friend, overwhelming among the representatives of the soft sciences in concert with the dishonesty of the very few competent in the hard sciences make it so that society is conditioned to accept violation of CoE only if it sees a self-sustaining device. Under normal conditions, provided sciences functioned according to the scientific method (a method they only pay lip service nowadays) violation of CoE would heve been accepted in the mainstream long ago. There are categorical proofs for CoE violation which should already be in the standard literature used in colleges and universities. And what's even worse, the direct practical application of already discovered machines producing excess energy, hasn't yet found its place in the radar screens of the R&D labs, conditioned by the severe suppression of this important finding through propaganda and intimidadation. And, of course, aided by  the deliberately muddled thinking of the scientific part of society, as mentioned.

these very serious flaws in thinking demonstrated in this thread (and others) by omnibus are par for his course. cogent arguments are rarely supplied in rebuttal to another persons point(s) and are instead supplanted by a wild variety of logical fallacies. when called on this, he retreats to his favorite fallacy of all argumentum ad nauseam, where he repeats the same thing over and over till you are sick of hearing it.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #139 on: February 03, 2011, 10:48:50 PM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #140 on: February 03, 2011, 10:57:17 PM »
these very serious flaws in thinking demonstrated in this thread (and others) by omnibus are par for his course. cogent arguments are rarely supplied in rebuttal to another persons point(s) and are instead supplanted by a wild variety of logical fallacies. when called on this, he retreats to his favorite fallacy of all argumentum ad nauseam, where he repeats the same thing over and over till you are sick of hearing it.

No, a person like you who has clearly demonstrated muddled thinking cannot utter such judgements. It's obviously preposterous and untrue. Of course, you have no restraint and you have to be constantly reminded of that, despite your love for the word 'cogent'. That word and your thinking are not friends despite your impression to the contrary.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #141 on: February 03, 2011, 11:02:17 PM »
You repeatedly asked me about something I already repeatedly answered. I know you want very much  the win to be yours but it isn't, unfortunately.
you sir, are a liar. you haven't shown how and where a different type (a type that does not use inductive or deductive reasoning) of logic is used in a court case... ::) the win is mine albeit not one i am proud of... not much competition from the likes of you, who refuses to present a cogent rebuttal.

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« Reply #141 on: February 03, 2011, 11:02:17 PM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #142 on: February 03, 2011, 11:05:23 PM »
Oh, by the way, whatever happened to the other possibilities for the flawed Karl Popper's logic? One was his mediocrity, the other was deliberate conspiracy to destroy science. Our friend said I've committed logical fallacy because there are other possibilities. What are they?

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #143 on: February 03, 2011, 11:07:50 PM »
Oh, by the way, whatever happened to the other possibilities for the flawed Karl Popper's logic? One was his mediocrity, the other was deliberate conspiracy to destroy science. Our friend said I've committed logical fallacy because there are other possibilities. What are they?
denied, your pathetic attempt at a strawman argument has been noted. even more pathetic is that you used a previous logical fallacy as a segue into this one... ::)
tell you what, you show how and where a different type (a type that does not use inductive or deductive reasoning) of logic is used in a court case, and i'll be your huckleberry on the popper fallacy.

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« Reply #143 on: February 03, 2011, 11:07:50 PM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #144 on: February 03, 2011, 11:08:49 PM »
you sir, are a liar. you haven't shown how and where a different type (a type that does not use inductive or deductive reasoning) of logic is used in a court case... ::) the win is mine albeit not one i am proud of... not much competition from the likes of you, who refuses to present a cogent rebuttal.

Well, so much for ad hominem attqck. Here it is, par excellence. I'm not to blame that you don't understand the explanations I gave for the differences.

Thus, your win is only in your imagination.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #145 on: February 03, 2011, 11:11:06 PM »
Well, so much for ad hominem attqck. Here it is, par excellence. I'm not to blame that you don't understand the explanations I gave for the differences.
yet it is not fallacious, because you are a liar, you gave no differences in logic, as evidenced by the record. which according to you obviates it from being ad hominem.... ::)

so which is it omniboy?

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #145 on: February 03, 2011, 11:11:06 PM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #146 on: February 03, 2011, 11:14:00 PM »
denied, your pathetic attempt at a strawman argument has been noted. even more pathetic is that you used a previous logical fallacy as a segue into this one... ::)
tell you what, you show how and where a different type (a type that does not use inductive or deductive reasoning) of logic is used in a court case, and i'll be your huckleberry on the popper fallacy.

Aha, so there are no more options than the ones I listed. That's what I thought. What else is new, our friend blabbers something and then forgets what he really meant. But that's his style, we know that already. Just don't pay too much attention to him.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #147 on: February 03, 2011, 11:15:38 PM »
Aha, so there are no more options than the ones I listed. That's what I thought. What else is new, our friend blabbers something and then forgets what he really meant. But that's his style, we know that already.
LMFAO! you didn't list any! what is the post number where you listed these? or are you referring to your popper fallacy?

and let me make something overwhelmingly clear since you don't know me son, you and i are not friends, nor will we be. i despise people like you who eschew logic and reason.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #148 on: February 03, 2011, 11:18:46 PM »
yet it is not fallacious, because you are a liar, you gave no differences in logic, as evidenced by the record. which according to you obviates it from being ad hominem.... ::)

so which is it omniboy?

You say this because you want it to be so. But it isn't. Anybody may go back and read what I said about the differences. So yours is a genuine ad hominem. This a fact, yours is wishful thinking.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #149 on: February 03, 2011, 11:21:46 PM »
HHMMMMmm.
We're bringing in the experts on this one.

But I think W has achieved OU. This Tag team will most definately go on Forever,and It seems that W can't control it,he's trying to engage
the heavies in the Cold electricity thread.

Could be a Runaway cascade event.............

Chetty

 

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