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Author Topic: Joule Thief 101  (Read 947602 times)

tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #705 on: March 09, 2016, 12:00:17 AM »
Quote from: MileHigh on March 08, 2016, 04:10:28 PM




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My statement again:

"All of the air friction and various other friction forces" will depend on the environment the car is being tested in.  So your whole line of "reasoning" is wrong when you allege that I am "missing the environmental factor."

Like i said,you are missing vital information that is not frictional force, that is needed in order to calculate the speed doing it your way.

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You were talking about a Joule Thief and not "transmitting power over 'mid-range.'"

Wrong !once again!.
You asked for an example where resonance increase efficiency.
It had nothing to do with a Joule Thief.

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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #706 on: March 09, 2016, 12:13:50 AM »
Quote from: tinman on March 09, 2016, 12:00:17 AM
Like i said,you are missing vital information that is not frictional force, that is needed in order to calculate the speed doing it your way.

Brad

For the car, I can't explain why you can't understand how the environment the car is in will determine the frictional forces on the car.  I will just have to assume that you are incapable of comprehending this and leave it at that.

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Wrong !once again!.
You asked for an example where resonance increase efficiency.
It had nothing to do with a Joule Thief.

In fact we were talking about a Joule Thief.

Take a LOOK:

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You need to stop thinking that the MH JT circuit is the only JT circuit MH. A JT circuit is a circuit that can drain (what would otherwise be wasted)the remaining energy from !almost! dead batteries.
The idea behind the resonance thing,is to do this at a greater efficiency--more light,less waste heat.

You are unbelievable and your thought patterns are like a bowl of spaghetti in motion.  It's almost impossible to have a debate with you.

MileHigh
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tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #707 on: March 09, 2016, 12:23:41 AM »
Quote from: MileHigh on March 08, 2016, 04:13:44 PM
I refuse to believe that you can't understand the meaning of the question.

Judging by the ratio of those that read and understand your questions in the same way,to those that understand your questions in a different way,it is clear MH that you dont understand your own questions. ;)
Everyone here has read and answered your questions in a way that makes sense as to how the questions were asked. You on the other hand seem to have some other understanding of your questions.


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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #708 on: March 09, 2016, 12:26:43 AM »
Quote from: tinman on March 09, 2016, 12:23:41 AM
Judging by the ratio of those that read and understand your questions in the same way,to those that understand your questions in a different way,it is clear MH that you dont understand your own questions. ;)
Everyone here has read and answered your questions in a way that makes sense as to how the questions were asked. You on the other hand seem to have some other understanding of your questions.


Brad

More trash talk nonsense.
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tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #709 on: March 09, 2016, 12:33:12 AM »
Quote from: MileHigh on March 08, 2016, 04:50:53 PM
No, we were having a discussion about resonance and I suspected that some people were bluffing about it.  You know, like how 95% of the people that build stuff with coils and post about them all the time don't actually understand how they work?

So I posted these two simple questions and requested two simple answers:

How does a wine glass resonate, what is the mechanism?
How is the resonant frequency of a wine glass determined?

And low and behold, nobody has been able to answer them correctly in their own words.  So what are the implications for people that are trying to experiment with resonance?

  That's a worthwhile exercise whether you like it or not.  It has devolved into a bloody circus and that's not my doing.  Answers will be provided in April.  If people had the right attitude they would take up the challenge and try to answer these simple questions by learning and then distilling that knowledge and comprehending it so that they could successfully answer the two questions.  On another forum where people take pride in educating themselves in the information age they would welcome this as a fun challenge.  Instead you have a circus with a bunch of poseurs that aren't happy that they can't talk the talk anymore because someone asked them to walk the walk and they couldn't do it.  All that they could do was complain and copy/paste, they couldn't use their own brains and intellect to answer the questions.  But they still can if they want to work at it.  Experience has shown they will not learn if it's spoon fed to them.

If you don't like it, tough for you.

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The questions were posed because of Brad's big talk about resonance, and it's turned out to be big fake talk and a bunch of copy-pasting.

Ah--there ya go MH,playing that game once again.
When links and quotes are copy-pasted for references to answers given in my own word's,you play the old-->cant put an answer in his own word's--game.
But epic fail this time MH,as my answers in my own words are plastered all over this thread.

The biggest issue we have here,is your lack of knowledge in the english language ,and the fact that you dont understand your own question's.
Every one here reads your questions the very same,and has replied to those questions with correct answers. You on the other hand(and only you) seem to read your questions in a totally different way.  !but! let me guess--we all have it wrong,and dont understand english,and you have it right,and have taken the english language to a whole new level ?. ::)

So the numbers have been crunched MH,and it seems that you need some lessons in the english language.
This is simply one of those times that you have been outvoted in number's,and it seems that we may have to explain to you as to what your questions actually mean.

Dose anyone here have the time to give MH lessons in english 101.?


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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #710 on: March 09, 2016, 01:00:03 AM »
One more time Brad that's mostly useless trash talk.

Bradley doesn't like his dose of cod liver oil but Bradley does like his serving of ice cream after school.

You should try writing that out in long-hand 500 times just like back in elementary school.

You have never tried to answer the two questions in your own words.  If you truly understand resonance then you should be able to answer the questions in simple terms with no problems.  If you can't do that then the thread should be handed over to Magluvin.  I will give my answers in April.

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sm0ky2

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #711 on: March 09, 2016, 02:23:11 AM »
ok MH, your turn

tell us the mechanics behind the resonance of the wine glass

i'll hold my breath

please feel free to omit any

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...technical word salad
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sm0ky2

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #712 on: March 09, 2016, 02:26:18 AM »
"the wine glass resonates because you are tapping it"

is that the answer?

just because there is no "air" present to vibrate your ears, does not mean the waveform completely ceases to exist.
soundwaves can travel through space with no medium, and manifest themselves on the other side back into a medium, where they can then again be heard by your mortal sensory appendages.
is it technically "sound"? that depends on how you choose to define what "sound" is.....
and also to some degree, your ability to evacuate your test chamber.
all this is irrelevant to the discussion.
and is just a subservient attempt to distract everyone from your idiocracy.

Your allusion to the irrelevance of a resonant chamber, with respect to something that resonates...
is quite absurd.

without such resonant chamber, the glass would NOT resonate.
it would behave much like the flat piece of glass and just go thunk,.
(actually the flat glass does resonate, just not for very long and the wavelength is much shorter)

   



 
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sm0ky2

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #713 on: March 09, 2016, 02:50:08 AM »
if you break your wine glass and pick up a piece of the "glass itself"
and flick it

f = [sqrt(E/4L^2p)]

where E is Young's Modulus at that temperature.
L is the thickness of the glass
p is its' density


^^ there that's four sentences.
unfortunately, your wine glass is not only SiO2, there are other components in the glass material.
which makes the reality a more complex equation.
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ramset

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #714 on: March 09, 2016, 02:52:47 AM »
 mortal sensory appendages ??

surely you jest ....

his holiness has no such appendage !!

And if he did surely he would not waste it in such a fashion ...as listening .

please do not confuse him with the facts ,his mind is made up ...

                                         April [would that be April 1st??]
so let it be written so let it be done.!
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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #715 on: March 09, 2016, 03:39:18 AM »
Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 09, 2016, 02:26:18 AM
"the wine glass resonates because you are tapping it"

is that the answer?

just because there is no "air" present to vibrate your ears, does not mean the waveform completely ceases to exist.
soundwaves can travel through space with no medium, and manifest themselves on the other side back into a medium, where they can then again be heard by your mortal sensory appendages.
is it technically "sound"? that depends on how you choose to define what "sound" is.....
and also to some degree, your ability to evacuate your test chamber.
all this is irrelevant to the discussion.
and is just a subservient attempt to distract everyone from your idiocracy.

Your allusion to the irrelevance of a resonant chamber, with respect to something that resonates...
is quite absurd.

without such resonant chamber, the glass would NOT resonate.
it would behave much like the flat piece of glass and just go thunk,.
(actually the flat glass does resonate, just not for very long and the wavelength is much shorter)

 

Well, I had to quote that posting in it's entirety.

Thanks for proving that you are completely clueless and exposing yourself for all the world to see.  It makes all of your vain little attempts to belittle me look quite silly and comical right now.  If you were on my "resonance team" you would be booted down into the minor leagues.  Common sense is not always so common, is it?

MileHigh
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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #716 on: March 09, 2016, 03:42:34 AM »
Quote from: ramset on March 09, 2016, 02:52:47 AM
mortal sensory appendages ??

surely you jest ....

his holiness has no such appendage !!

And if he did surely he would not waste it in such a fashion ...as listening .

please do not confuse him with the facts ,his mind is made up ...

                                         April [would that be April 1st??]
so let it be written so let it be done.!

You are on Planet Bizarro.  Better come back to Earth before your appendage falls off.
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ramset

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #717 on: March 09, 2016, 04:35:31 AM »
Mh
You have an X files thing goin on here , I keep expecting Orson Welles or some "don't adjust your TV screen "
Voice to come over the Putor  ...

twighlightzone for certain...

I sure hope you don't wake up tomorrow with one of those
"what did I do Last night ...and Who Dat ?? "
moments ....

flyin with out a wire  !




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tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #718 on: March 09, 2016, 06:16:33 AM »
Quote from: MileHigh on March 09, 2016, 12:13:50 AM
For the car, I can't explain why you can't understand how the environment the car is in will determine the frictional forces on the car.  I will just have to assume that you are incapable of comprehending this and leave it at that.

In fact we were talking about a Joule Thief.

Take a LOOK:

You are unbelievable and your thought patterns are like a bowl of spaghetti in motion.  It's almost impossible to have a debate with you.

MileHigh

I have no trouble at all with the frictional forces applied by the environment.
You have trouble understanding that other forces exist within the environment that act upon the car in a non frictional way.

What is the 1 major force that acts upon the car in a non frictional mannor that you have missed MH?
If you cannot answer this 1 simple question, then how can you parade around this thread like you are some sort of guru resonance preacher.

Your questions as they are understood by everyone (but you), have been answered correctly many times now, and in our own words.
I think you have ! How! And ! What! All mixed up. But that dose not matter, as we have provided answers for both.

As we are all done with our answers, and you will not be posting your answers for 4 to 7 weeks now, might I suggest you just sit back , and shut up until you provide those answers, as I think most of us here are done with your constsnt bable about how everyone else is wrong, and you are right--a claim that is not yet backed up by the claimant.

So smash back some valium MH, and maybe go help some of those other poor lost soles you were talking about some time back. Then pop back over here in April with your ground breaking revalations.


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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #719 on: March 09, 2016, 06:25:51 AM »
I don't know what the one major force is that acts upon the car in a non frictional manner, please tell me what it is.
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