Author Topic: New invention of motion less generation of electric power (Read 351006 times)

gotoluc · « **Reply #630 on:** January 02, 2010, 10:47:28 PM »

Quote from: nightlife on January 02, 2010, 10:22:49 PM

I found this which may explain a lot about what is going on here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXIWAipEvjQ&NR=1

This is their website.

http://www.plugandsave.com/

Hi nightlife,

I have seen this video before. What bothers me is, he turns on the light and the meter is hardly moving. As he starts explaining how the meters dial works it starts moving faster then when he first turned on the light

Look at the video closely and you will see the dial is behaving strangely $:-\$

I think his device is just offering filtration and maybe a basic power factor correction.

Luc

nightlife · « **Reply #631 on:** January 03, 2010, 01:22:48 AM »

Hi Luc,

I did notice the meter was not acting right and it made me think it was a hoax back when I first seen it and I still think it is a hoax. The interesting part is the talk about the spiking volts that are wasted. Couldn't those spikes be captured and stored into caps and then dumped back into the system as controlled wattage? Could that be what has been done by Ali?

winsonali · « **Reply #632 on:** January 03, 2010, 01:27:41 AM »

nightlife:

i am only taking a small fraction of input voltage 10% to 15% and then regenerating them in proper cycle while doing this a complex software sensing ans switching is taking place.

but now the product is far more better then the old one you will see soon.

EMdevices · « **Reply #633 on:** January 03, 2010, 04:46:51 AM »

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but now the product is far more better then the old one you will see soon

Ok, that's better Ali, saying that it's "far more better" is within the laws of physics, but saying that it's running in "closed loop" is just ridiculous.

Also, you implied in an earlier post that SMPS should fool the watt meter as well but they don't. I ask you what's the input stage of a SMPS supply? Rectification and filtering (of ripple) is the answer. This filtering suppresses the high frequency from being leaked out. In your system you don't have that from what you revealed. So don't expect the powermeter to register this high frequency loading and unloading.

@Luc,
read carefully what Ali has posted and what he is claiming before taking sides. The fact is:
1) he has claimed "closed loop" operation, and
2) he already revealed how he does his switching.

This forum is too crowded with the ignorant masses who would believe anything, Not me. I know BS when I see it. If that bothers you perhaps it's time to think more criticaly before believing anything people say on these forums.

EM

nightlife · « **Reply #634 on:** January 03, 2010, 07:10:09 AM »

EM, I can understand your frustration and that is why I haven't been around as much in the past year but we must take into consideration as to what has done here since then. The jule thief has came a long way and gadget has seam to of been able to utilize it in a way that may be producing what many consider to be overunity. that is why I had posted what I did on this tread a couple of my comments ago.
I feel it best to sit back, ask questions and look for ways to utilize what is being said and or done. We all know that you can not make something from nothing but considering all the energy that is around us and everything is made of energy, it is possible to tap into it and utilize it for our needs.
Think of all the energy needed to create iron, iron is a product of energy and energy can be extracted from iron if we only knew how to do it. That goes for everything that is something which would be everything within our solar system.
We can never produce energy, we can and do only capture what is released from things that is made up of energy.

nightlife · « **Reply #635 on:** January 03, 2010, 07:25:10 AM »

EM,
Think about all the energy that is one Atom. If we could extract that energy from just one Atom, we could utilize it to power many things. Everything is radiant including an atom. The radiance is energy that is released. Everything recycles energy by absorbing and releasing it. If it didn't, it wouldn't be anything. It has to be something if you can touch it, see it, hear it, smell it, taste it or breath it.
Please keep this in mind when addressing possible ways of capturing what flows naturally.

Nihilanth · « **Reply #636 on:** January 03, 2010, 08:03:11 AM »

Quote from: EMdevices on January 03, 2010, 04:46:51 AM

Ok, that's better Ali, saying that it's "far more better" is within the laws of physics, but saying that it's running in "closed loop" is just ridiculous.

This is Overunity.com what were you expecting, discussion of corn ethanol as a fuel?

markdansie · « **Reply #637 on:** January 03, 2010, 09:22:21 AM »

@EM
A scope always tells the real story. There are may ways to trick power meters.
I have to say some good things about Ali, he was offered some assistance in person by a a couple of well qualified people who showed him what was happenning with a scope hooked up to his device. To his credit he took that advice and has continued to work on his project knowing the minimum standards required when testing.
Ali will be demonstrating to these individuals again in the near future (if all goes well) and we will have some professionally tested results. The ulimate test however is to close loop it and to run it long enough to take into account any energy that may be stored in the caps. This may occur at a latter date.
Although no one has demonstrated overunity to date there remains some interesting work in cold fusion and fractional hydrogen studies. We can only hope, but these are explained within the normal laws of physics.
Kind Regards
Mark

winsonali · « **Reply #638 on:** January 03, 2010, 11:20:32 AM »

TO ALL:

thanks for your support forget the negative thinking of some one, you can see all there posts are empty in terms of knowledge they can just saw this is not possible this is possible.... there is no hope of thinking out of box for them this is the reason why they are not able to do anything since long time.

once again i have no technical hindrance, i am just waiting for proper time more appropriate some documentation i am equally eager to show the device to all of you.

Mark is right 2 very qualified and honest people are due to visit me in coming weeks

other then this once i will open the doors every one is welcome to see demonstration.

winsonali · « **Reply #639 on:** January 03, 2010, 12:12:10 PM »

No body is perfect in this world i have gained a lot of knowledge by experimenting and have gone through more then 100 patent denouement , scientific research papers, after a lot of analysis i figure out these results

Belief:

i have firm belief in over unity, why?
when we manufacture a permanent magnet we put the energy in it to align the domains once and then for next 10 ~ 15 years the magnet will remain permanent magnet if not improperly used . the amount of energy released in 10 years are far more then that of energy required to create it.
so this is undeniable fact.

Thinking out of box:
to create something you need to think out of box if your mind is crowded by biased approach you will never be able to think for new concepts.

law of conservation of energy says energy is constant it can not be created or destroyed it can change its forms.

In many religions this is the law of GOD , GOD is one , he will never die,he didn't born, he is everywhere .....

so in science energy is GOD...

yes and it can change its forms and it can do wonders

observation is the key of success , getting help from others expedite the process , discussing your achievement is your reward

i know i am talking too big but it is only possible when i have something...
and one thing more i am not after money i have committed to a Christian NOG for 100s of units for Africa free of cost

ramset · « **Reply #640 on:** January 03, 2010, 03:09:24 PM »

Ali

God's been doing OU a long time

Even his bugs can make'" miracles " happen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

Chet

winsonali · « **Reply #641 on:** January 03, 2010, 05:24:53 PM »

ramset
wonderful video

hartiberlin · « **Reply #642 on:** January 03, 2010, 05:35:33 PM »

Hi Ali,
maybe , before you post your new video,
you can already post a few scopeshots of the input current on a shunt resistor
and the output voltage on an incandescent bulb ?

That would really help and start to build up more interest in your device.

Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.

forest · « **Reply #643 on:** January 03, 2010, 06:41:55 PM »

Quote from: ramset on January 03, 2010, 03:09:24 PM

Ali

God's been doing OU a long time

Even his bugs can make'" miracles " happen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

Chet

Medium is the key. It can't happen in air.

jan.kolar · « **Reply #644 on:** January 03, 2010, 06:46:39 PM »

Formula for energy stored in magnetic field is well known E = 0.5 * magnetic permeability * field strength ^ 2. Best permanent magnets that exists are neodymium and they have energy density ~ 512 kJ/m3. Energy stored in magnetic field at best is somewhere in kJ range. You cant power your house for 10 - 15 years solely with permanent magnet even if you success to use 100% of that energy. Its impossible Ali. Point me to one law of physics that you think is wrong in your case and why other people did not notice this. If you have found something new then your theory must include all the current physical theories as special case like for example Galilean transformations are special case of Lorentz transformations in Einstein special theory of relativity.

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