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Author Topic: New invention of motion less generation of electric power  (Read 350879 times)

winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #615 on: December 26, 2009, 10:17:29 PM »
wattsup:

aaron:

i have explained a little bit how you can get the max power and efficiency

please see the attached picture
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aaron5120

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #616 on: December 27, 2009, 03:56:25 AM »
Quote from: winsonali on December 26, 2009, 10:17:29 PM
wattsup:

aaron:

i have explained a little bit how you can get the max power and efficiency

please see the attached picture
Hi Winsonali,
Seanson's greeting to you and your esteemed family!
Many thanks for your efforts in clarifying the wave switching issue in the magnet=coil setup. In light of your most recent explanation, let me see if I understood the information. The coil enters the center zone(the iron cylinder center) of the Disk magnet pair and the controller circuit switches the coil "on" to extract the peak power, then switch "off" for leaving the center zone. You use the outer zone( the own magnet surface which has an opposite polarity comparing to the center zone)) to demagnatized the coil in order it can leave the magnet pair without drag.
Therefore, the special magnet shield setup can save the energy required to demagnetize the leaving coil  in order to overcome the attraction force.
Am I right? The solution is brilliant and simple.
So how could the controller circuit know when to switch on and when to switch off? Using hall effect probe, or using one of the numerous opto-coupler to trigger the switching?
Thanks for sharing your technology, Winsonali.
aaron5120
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winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #617 on: December 27, 2009, 01:02:21 PM »
aaron:

we don't need any hall effect sensors in our circuit

we are sampling wave shape in software we have an ADC and a DAC in software developed to monitor  wave shape as we cross a certain voltage on middle coil we turn on load Mosfet and as it goes down a certain level we close the load  so you are not very much concerned about magnetic field

using hall effect sensors is not good practice for open loop magnetic circuits you will not find them in various high end solutions coz they can receive effects from environment RF emissions and a lot more but induce voltage is the target and as well as 100% end product sensing PD and controlling is the best solution




     
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nightlife

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #618 on: December 27, 2009, 11:39:34 PM »
It looks to me like this is nothing more then a very well built Joule thief. Kind of like a bedni circuit that pulses the power and collects the power from the colasping field. What would be really nice to see is a circuit that could be used to collect the colasping field of natural energy without being manually pulsed. All energy pulses as do all vibrancy's and considering everything is made up of vibrant, everything pulses. Nothing is solid and everything is vibrant as well as everything is energy. Energy is vibrant and vibrancy's are energy.
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aaron5120

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #619 on: December 30, 2009, 11:13:07 AM »
Quote from: winsonali on December 27, 2009, 01:02:21 PM
aaron:

we don't need any hall effect sensors in our circuit
   
Hi Winsonali,
Now I understand what your programable IC does in the controller circuit after your explanation. Thank you for the information.
I already got 10 pieces of grade 5 ceramic disk magnets (see attached picture of it). Their dimensions are: OD 81.5mm, ID 40mm, thickness 15mm.
I will get the iron shield (see another attachment)made with the base diam. 80mm, thickness 4mm, and centre rod diam. 36mm( to be 2mm smaller at each side of the ID of the magnet), and 17mm long( 2mm longer than the thickness of the magnet.
Please confirm the dimensions of the shield if they are all right. Many thanks!
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Nihilanth

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #620 on: December 31, 2009, 11:16:23 AM »
Hey Winson, any updates on your 'genie'?
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EMdevices

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #621 on: December 31, 2009, 11:48:46 PM »
Yes,   the "genie" is finally "out of bottle" (neck) and running in "closed loop"  producing so much electricity that Ali doesn't know what to do with it all.   A very luck man indeed.   ;)
Happy New Year to all,
EM
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nightlife

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #622 on: January 01, 2010, 10:02:22 PM »
 I should have spent more time thinking about this before replying before. It reminds me of a design I had for a bedini that I posted a couple of years ago. It uses a both poles of a magnetic field and switches the field back and forth between each to keep from permanently magnetizing the core and by doing so it collects the energy from each flush as well as the energy gained from the free movement that is created.

 This sounds like what is done here. The energy used is being switched back and forth requiring very little energy to keep keep switching because the energy is not being allowed to escape. It directs the energy in one direction and then back in the opposite direction and then over again and so on. Very little energy is lost and much movement is created. Kind of like dumping a cap into a coil and then dumping the coil back into the cap. Each move creates an opposite magnetic field and the field is created for very little cost after the first amount of energy is applied.
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EMdevices

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #623 on: January 01, 2010, 11:28:30 PM »
@nightlife
the "genie" is  a lot more simple then it is made out to be.   The fast switching represents a high frequency that is filtered by the watt meter, which is designed for 60 Hz.   The "extra energy" is not free energy, but rather it is energy that is not being recorded by the meter under these fast switching conditions.   Ali is so full of it, when he says he has "closed loop" operation, I don't belive him at all, unless perhaps he means something totaly different by the expression "closed loop".   
EM
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gotoluc

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #624 on: January 02, 2010, 02:08:45 AM »
Quote from: EMdevices on January 01, 2010, 11:28:30 PM
Ali is so full of it, when he says he has "closed loop" operation, I don't belive him at all, unless perhaps he means something totaly different by the expression "closed loop".   
EM

Hi EM,

so far I see Ali as being a genuine person and helpful in sharing what he can at this time.

Fact is:
Your assessment if Ali's possible method or circuit is not FACTUAL since Ali has not shared his circuit yet :-\... your assessment is based on how you believe Ali maybe doing it.

I don't get involve in debate with members but when you say someone is full of it without the FACTS ???...this is a negative comment based on your personal belief!... so don't you think it's possible that you could be full of it?

This is for you to think ::) about!...  like I said (I don't get involve in debate) I'm only interested in putting my energy in alternative free energy solutions to freely help those in need.

Many people don't realize that the mass of the World's population is living in poverty and are totally helpless. We are not!... so working together is the only way we can change this World to a better place :)

Sincerely

Luc


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Nihilanth

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #625 on: January 02, 2010, 12:15:38 PM »
He may not have shared much about it yet, but that is his choice. He has not asked anything of you, so you shouldn't try to egg someone on by calling them a fraud and make them not want to share what they know. That right's reserved for when they start asking for money without well-tested results. :P
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neha9243

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #626 on: January 02, 2010, 01:18:07 PM »
 Ali is not asking any money  then what  we all are going to loose. just wait for something then the picture will be clear. From his last videos one thing is very clear HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING AND TALKING.

Ali keep it up and do not waste your valuable energy and time to answer such silly quetions. Keep the good work
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winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #627 on: January 02, 2010, 09:24:56 PM »
Gotoluc, nilihanth, neha

thank you for your support when we read a post we can get some thing adding in our knowledge and reject all foolish comments
i have no technical hindrance in showing my new device i am just waiting for proper time soon we will see the system working

i just want to add a little comment "its easy to do lips service its difficult to perform practically" those who think that they can slow down meter by high frequency don't talk do it and show us." all SMPS power supplies use high frequecy they never slow down the power meter ;)   
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ramset

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #628 on: January 02, 2010, 09:43:14 PM »
Luc said
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Many people don't realize that the mass of the World's population is living in poverty and are totally helpless. We are not!... so working together is the only way we can change this World to a better place :)
End quote

Truer words are hard to find.

And I hope this year will be the !st to see this happen.

Chet
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nightlife

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #629 on: January 02, 2010, 10:22:49 PM »
 I found this which may explain a lot about what is going on here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXIWAipEvjQ&NR=1
 
 This is their website.

http://www.plugandsave.com/
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