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hartiberlin

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #555 on: December 14, 2009, 06:46:07 PM »

same Coil with 10 Ohm load:

http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad290/gotoluc/GeneratorCoiltest1b.png

But this one was also with a cap in parallel, right ?

This makes not much sense,
just use a buzzer relay or a mechanical on off-switch wheel
to shortout/opencircuit the coils
and use a graetz bridge across the coil with a cap to collect the energy from the
BackEMF. This will get you the most output and the least
Lenz law drag.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #556 on: December 14, 2009, 07:15:43 PM »
But this one was also with a cap in parallel, right ?

Regards, Stefan.

Yes Stefan, that scope shot the cap is in parallel and also with the 10 Ohm load.

Luc

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #557 on: December 14, 2009, 07:51:26 PM »
Yes Stefan, that scope shot the cap is in parallel and also with the 10 Ohm load.

Luc

So you just made an LCR parallel tank circuit, that is dependent on the resonance frequency
of the LC components and thus only efficient at the exact resonance frequency, that your
rotor would have to match...

So better use the BackEMF chopping technique I exlained in my previous posting.
This will also greatly reduce any I^2R losses in the coil´s windings, if you
switch below 1/5th of tau= LxR of the coil.


Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #558 on: December 15, 2009, 05:36:55 AM »
aaron:

i will send you the details of the electronic circuit as well as the micro-controller
i wish best of luck for you
where ever you need my help jut email me.

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #559 on: December 17, 2009, 07:26:40 PM »
@ DBowling Said:

If you are actually able to patent your device, at a cost of several thousand dollars, and it is indeed free energy, you will never get it to market because the powers that be will step in and take it in the name of "national security" which is in actuality the security of the big oil companies, or you will discover that some major company has a patent just like yours which just happens to have cleared the patent office days before yours did, so now yours cannot be patented.  This applies no mater WHAT country you live in because every country needs oil.

Your surest course to make money is to release your information here, have it verified and duplicated by others around the world so it can never be lost or patended out from under you. Then sell your plans or kits on the internet and list the people here who have verified that it is a working viable unit. The "Water-for-Gas" guy has made over a million with a crappy product in exactly this manner. If you ask the people on this forum I am sure they would tell you that they are willing to pay for something that is proven to work Many people who could build it themselves would STILL pay for a kit or instructions because it would be simpler than taking the time to buy all the parts and assemble it.

I am really tired of people who come to these forums with a purpose other than to disclose exactly what they have so that others can test or duplicate their results and further the cause of energy research. Why would they say they have something and not disclose exactly what it is and how it works? Why not just keep their mouth shut? Would they post videos of themselves eating a huge meal so that the people out there who have no food can watch and suffer? Are they so desperate for attention that they come here so others will beg them for little scraps of information? To all of you who would do this, I say share, or shut up and go away. Either tell us exactly how to do this step by step so even a beginner can duplicate it, or hold your silence. My mother always told me that unless I had enough of something to share with everybody it was impolite to eat it in front of them. Some of you should have had a mother like mine. The world needs this kind of information, people are dying for lack of it. If money is the only issue, it should not be one because I have shown you exactly how to make money with an idea like this, and if you have a conscious, you will do the right thing. Don't say you have given us all the pieces and all we have to do is put it together. Put it together for us. You will not only make millions, you will make history and your name will always be remembered. What more could you ask for?


EXCELLENT ADVICE David.  It is soooo pertinent to this Thread that I want to post your statement here.


http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6734.msg215481#new

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #560 on: December 18, 2009, 07:16:12 AM »
Fat bird:

the quote you posted is based on reality
examples:

black ligth power  they got there patent for there powder and cancelled with in 2 years as it was revealed that it can used for power production. and there are many examples like this

getting attention by posting on forums is not the target..... the target is to share knowledge with everyone give your views and receive there views.these are free forums any body can come and post there views either based on knowledge or misconception.
and you never know who those people are .... its better to choose the way which serves the purpose in best way rather then trying to make everyone happy.

Not every experiment can be done in a small capacity i give you  an example

i reduce the core requirement from the transformer by coating silver on FE304 base alloy you cannot do at home nor you do experiments of this nature at home. the upper layer carries the current the lower layer carries the magnetic field nothing more precise is possible.

now if some one is capable to understand the technical language can imagine what i have described free of cost.

selling kits or selling any thing is not my area i do project for companies and hand over them the entire solution, so i am afraid  i will not sell any kits i will give knowledge and those capable will enjoy the work.

proof of product .. the proof of product is not in successful replication .. it is in customer satisfaction when we produce some product then customers using them they will speak by themselves.

just an example Gotoluc was working on lens free generator i saw his video what ever knowledge i was having based on my own practical experiments and related device i posted honestly with full details. and that is a 100% working unit. and i did this some time back this is knowledge sharing as gotoluc put forward his experiments honestly i did the same.

nali2001 is posting his work very honestly   

so my brother what ever energy solution will come now will not be an easy thing cos everything easily possible has already been done. I have seen more then 100 patent documents based on permanent magnet and transformers and sort of MEG non of them are in working condition but they are patented documents.

how do i know they are not working ... because we can't find any device based on those designs or like them. end of story they are not working so they are not in market.

i reviewed each design and after going in details i rejected them as i can see design failures as a knowledge base i was looking forward to put that information to forum members and review them with there knowledge and we could reach to some results. but no body is interested in scientific reasoning.

conclusion.

the latest system i have developed is complete and self running it is running through DC taking 36 watt in and 80 watt AC out and when we re-inject the power a 40 watt bulb runs without any external source. this is verified by some very good people and i have been advised not to put this video until and unless i submit the patent document otherwise it will be considered advertised before registration and evidence will be attached for rejection of document.
i am not listening to the advise i am just looking to increase the power to some substantial level and will post  the video and then concept. but remember this is not so easy to be copied it is a really complicated device.   
most important i will not use this forum for commercial purpose what ever i will post will be free knowledge.

if forum members suggest that i should post the video of current setup then i will do that immediately.

     




 

 



 

 







markdansie

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #561 on: December 18, 2009, 07:59:01 AM »
@ DBowling Said:

If you are actually able to patent your device, at a cost of several thousand dollars, and it is indeed free energy, you will never get it to market because the powers that be will step in and take it in the name of "national security" which is in actuality the security of the big oil companies, or you will discover that some major company has a patent just like yours which just happens to have cleared the patent office days before yours did, so now yours cannot be patented.  This applies no mater WHAT country you live in because every country needs oil.


Not true......there is plenty of ethical companies with the political and financial clout to get projects running.
Mark

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #562 on: December 18, 2009, 08:13:51 AM »
Ali
We are a fellowship of men seeking to change our world.

I can tell that you will do the right thing

God bless you and yours

Chet

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #563 on: December 18, 2009, 12:52:48 PM »
Winsonali,
I just sent e-mails to your personal mailbox here in Overunity.com
Please have a look at them, many thanks. I have questions there for you regarding the margnet coil generator setup.
Aaron5120

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #564 on: December 18, 2009, 01:14:24 PM »
Hi Winson,

For what its worth, I personally would like to see your video very much :)


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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #565 on: December 19, 2009, 07:54:56 AM »
hello ALL,

this is the most perfect parallel path magnetic arrangement any motor designed on this concept will be free of lenz force. this cannot work as generator

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #566 on: December 19, 2009, 08:41:37 AM »
It can not work as a generator, but what can it work as & what would be the benefits?

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #567 on: December 19, 2009, 09:55:31 AM »
hello ALL,

this is the most perfect parallel path magnetic arrangement any motor designed on this concept will be free of lenz force. this cannot work as generator
Hi Winsonali,
This setup has already been patented by Jack Hildenbrand, who passed away this year soon after getting his patent granted( it was in March).
His patent number is US7453341 for your reference.
The design is almost the same. Jack had been sharing his invention here for 3 years. You may find his thread in the Magnet motor section. I was trying to replicate the Hildenbrand valve, but some technical issues hindered the advancement so far. I think your invention is better. And I am currently making the core for the Flynn Parralell path generator. Not a Lenzless gen though.
Thanks for your contribution anyway, Ali.

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #568 on: December 19, 2009, 11:14:17 AM »
aaron
the patent is 1959 i have just adjusted the core
the only techniques is calculating the flux path and resistance to flux path due to air gap if you are capable to balance in between them then you do this other wise no chance
the gauss of permanent magnet will effect the current consumption of your coil
you need proper switching to handle the flux path

this can only be used as an efficient  motor or heavy duty non clamp able lifters where you turn of the magnetic field to release weight


Charles Flynn generator will not work as they are not changing the field direction after few second the core will be energized in one direction and you will not get any output.





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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #569 on: December 19, 2009, 11:17:46 AM »
aaron here is the schematic diagram of magnetic generator  this can handle power upto 3000VA
the schematic include has a display of 2 * 20  to display to show frequecny ,output voltage, current and RPM