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gotoluc

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #525 on: December 10, 2009, 05:55:15 AM »
As Fausto stated Ali, I'm also right there.

Luc

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #526 on: December 10, 2009, 06:32:14 AM »

My  first post just to congratulate Ali for so great work!!..Ali you are just to become the man of the century like Newton, Copernicus, etc for so progressive ideas to benefit the human race..since you are  humble and not  asking money nor personal benefit your rewards will be great and your heart will be full of joy all days of your life.

what a historic moment..a new light  for this world is at hand!

God bless you man!!

winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #527 on: December 10, 2009, 05:08:42 PM »
kalakaflaca:

welcome to this forum i hope i fulfill the need to the commons up to my best level.
probably next week the unit will be ready for demonstrations.

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #528 on: December 11, 2009, 01:57:09 AM »

winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #529 on: December 11, 2009, 04:12:59 AM »
fatbird:
this video explain the above video in a better way with digital meter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMZjWkbF9bQ&feature=related

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #530 on: December 11, 2009, 05:00:05 AM »
winsonali

This world needs a few changes,And definitely more people like you!!

Thanks
  Chet

winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #531 on: December 13, 2009, 10:35:42 PM »
i was posting some information on another thread and they are usefull for many people so i am repeating them over here as well


Now coming to the technical part of the post the essence of the post is
1) DC cannot demagnetize core very easily.
2) DC when come across with closed loops it retain the field for more time then in open loop.
3) either of loops input or output both make same effect on core.

it is very helpful for other people reading these posts.

when i jump in this post i put forward the same thing that until and unless the power generation unit is reversing its polarities you cannot produce electricity.

in making my genie working i have not used any coils or transformers.

the sine wave we are using is not by choice, is by early designs there is no harmful effect on electrical devices operating under square wave reversing alternative current, if they are operating through DC i mean almost 90% device use DC conversion to operate for example computers televisions etc etc. even DC motors.

now if you see the picture i am putting you will under stand  what is effective area under curve is same as effective area under square wave.
i have developed inverter based on this switching techniques and i have 2 hours extra backup in my system at 1000 VA.

i have gone through with various patents involving PM in transformers and try to understand why and where they have conceptual differences.
flynn charles MEG will not work as  a generator but works as a parallel path magnet field.

i will be posting my next video early next week, video for the self running unit.
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winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #532 on: December 13, 2009, 10:39:00 PM »
if any one need the transformer calculation software just send me email i will send you zip file

gotoluc

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #533 on: December 14, 2009, 12:24:55 AM »
Hi Ali,

thanks for sharing this technique :)

Would one not use a ferrite core transformer considering the frequency is basically 42KHz?

The only difference I see is pauses between and polarity shifts.

Good idea ;)

Luc

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #534 on: December 14, 2009, 01:01:11 AM »
gotoluc

the ferrite core works on the principles as per faraday laws
v = N d B/dt
means voltage is directly proportional to rate of change of flux 42 KHz means in other words/ mechanical analogy
a generator working on 2520000 RPM

now in this case the benefit is you need less number of turns , higher current, less spikes low value of capacitor to provide dc conversion notch filing gaps of wave form. The ferrite core can lose its value of B very quickly or its BH curve is very steep and vertical. so you cannot get the fly wheel effect
for example mechanical analogy
if you use a 250 gram wheel on a motor top you will get low momentum but if you use 2 kg wheel you will get high momentum and that will store more kinetic energy then light weight one.
some times it is desired to use light weight wheel and some times it is required to use heavy weight wheel it depends on requirement.

now 99% percent books will say that the CRGO( cold roll grain oriented ) core is not siutable for high frequency such as 20KHz they are siutable for 50 hz to 100 hz or some times 400HZ thats all

here this is misunderstanding and this is the biggest advantage when they refer 50 to 400 hZ means core cannot return to neutral position faster then this frequency so any attempt to get it back or reversing the polarity faster then the prescribed values will heat the core and do nothing but loses.

Now understand what we are doing we switch the magnetic field in one direction and then with in mill seconds turn it off, the flux retains there the output will get the same effect but you have turned off your supply now before the core starts going back you pushed it again so you are getting the fly wheel effect but the out put is same and with each and every switching you will get BEMF going into battery again.

in ferrite core you do switch the frequency in reverse direction every time or if you have single direction switching you tend to reverse the magnetic flux to min during off period so you didn't get any advantage.
SMPS were designed to reduce the size of supply and they are complex circuits and serving there purpose very well otherwise you can imagine a computer power supply can be bigger then the computer itself. due to high current requirement.

the above technique will increase the time of your inverter twice and very use full for solar panel or windmills.
if you need one unit i can send you the normal weight of a UPS for a 1000VA is 12KG.

the technique of BEMF collection involve smart switching and turns off the main supply during BEMF collection. 
 
 
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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #535 on: December 14, 2009, 01:26:20 AM »
GOTOLUC
one thing just imagine if you remove the counter weight from a piston in petrol engine what will be the effect on engine performance
equivalence in electronics
 collection of BEMF in capacitor or battery.
remember bemf is not a energy generation, its reversal of unused energy during switching cycle.


Just think if you remove fly wheel from the engine gear box what will be the effect. Fly wheel provide smooth power during the gear shifting period and works as smoothing effect between power loading and unloading on engine
equivalence in electronics
use of high storage capacitors in supply's initial phase guarantees the smooth power output during transition period of switching cycles.




 

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #536 on: December 14, 2009, 03:46:11 AM »
@gotoluc
What Ali has demonstrated is perfectly correct, in fact all modern boost converters use this very process to increase efficiency. The inductance is switched faster than the natural resonant frequency of the core material, in this way the current on the output "appears" continuous because the current never stops completely. In this case the source charges the inductance for one portion of the cycle and the inductance acts as a source in itself in the next portion of the cycle. If the magnetic field is allowed to collapse completely then the inductive circuit is referred to as a flyback converter if the magnetic field is not allowed to collapse completely then it is referred to as a boost converter.
Regards
AC

gotoluc

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #537 on: December 14, 2009, 03:55:19 AM »
Wow Ali,

thanks for taking the time to post all this information.

Here is an interesting effect I just found a few hours ago while studying generator coil effects and possible solution to prevent Lenz Law in generator coils.

I have tested the coils in this flipped arrangement on a motor turning a magnet wheel and they produce just as good of output if not better then in normal mode but with next to no Lenz Law effect.

Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTykNjDD0CM

Let me know what you think.

Luc

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #538 on: December 14, 2009, 05:05:29 AM »
Luc,

I looked at your clip.  When you flip one of the coils around then the two coils cancel each other out.  That is why you are feeling hardly any force when you move the magnet by the pair of coils.

There is no point in building a generator like this.

MileHigh

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #539 on: December 14, 2009, 05:27:33 AM »
Luc,

I looked at your clip.  When you flip one of the coils around then the two coils cancel each other out.  That is why you are feeling hardly any force when you move the magnet by the pair of coils.

There is no point in building a generator like this.

MileHigh

Hi MileHigh,

I thought this could be the case, so after I found this effect I tested the coil on a motor that is turning a 10" Lexan disk to about 1,500 RPM which has 8 of 1" X 1/8" N42 Neo's counter sunk and epoxied in a north south alternating pattern.

First I connected one coil to a 1 Ohm load and 60uf motor cap and approached the coil to pickup the best voltage on the load which was 1.30vac. I then added the coil to get no Lenz effect and retested using the same load and got it to 1.20vac with the coil at about the same position. I'm doing this by hand so at this time I don't have accurate results but it looks very promising to me.

The video below demonstrates a prior test (not the same as I just described) but should give you an idea of how I tested it. Just keep in mind that I used a 1 Ohm and not a 10 Ohm like in this video.

Link to Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebybImidcFY

I hope you can find the time to replicate and help spread the news.

Luc