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FatBird

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #510 on: December 06, 2009, 12:28:55 AM »
Ali,  Please listen to what the gentlemen above are trying to warn you about.  If you have doubts, just do a Yahoo search on DEAD SCIENTISTS!!  The safest thing you can do is release it HERE ASAP before they get to you.

There are HUNDREDS of stories on the Net describing how they will SILENCE YOU.  Unfortunately, the PTB (Powers That Be) will NOT allow anything to interfere with their TRILLION DOLLAR per year Petroleum Business.


Here is the last known message from SM, the inventor of the TPUs.  His mistake was taking his TPU to the University of California for APPROVAL from the SCHOLARS and PROFESSORS in the PHYSICS and ELECTRONICS Dept.  Read it and see what his reward was!!!!


SORRY for this BAD NEWS, BUT I am just trying to help you out sir.  The worst thing you can do is to try and patent anything overunity.



Dear L- - - - - - ,

I have some very important things to tell you.  First. My attorney left several messages for me over the last week.  I finally called him on Friday and he informed me of the fact he needed to set up a meeting with me in his office in as soon as possible and that I needed to be prepared to meet with someone from the federal government..  I was shaken to the bone!  He also told me that I was not to mention my future meeting to anyone including the following: Paul, anyone with UEC, anyone on the Internet including you, my family, the press, or anyone in the communication business, my elected representatives and etc.  It sounded as though he was reading a list off to me.  He said that, he was.  I told him i was a little scared to show up.  He said that he understood my fear but it would be in my best interest to get into his office Monday and he would do his best to protect me.  I asked him what i needed to be protected from?  He said he had to respond to the authorities about their concerns  regarding my possible breaking of federal laws.

He said that the charges could be very serious against me and he needed to keep things from getting out of hand.
He told me that he convinced them (the federal authorities ) that I was not intentionally breaking any laws or going against their wishes in any way.  He assured them that he would get me into his office for them to talk to and they would see for themselves that I am a nice little guy who would never knowingly break the law.  So off i went this morning to my attorneys office in hopes of not getting arrested and placed into prison.  I don't think I would like prison, L - - - - - -.

The first thing there I was taken into a room by my attorney and told what not to say to the Feds.  Also, I was told what to do if I was arrested, etc.  So I was fully scared to death!!!  Next, I was taken into the meeting.  Therein was my attorney and his secretary with note pad in hand.  I was introduced to three gentleman in business suits.  One was from the FBI, ( Federal Burrow of Investigation ), one was from the Atomic Energy Commission of the federal government and the other
was from the Federal Department of Justice, Washington DC.  I now had to go to the bathroom at this moment of my life more then ever!!!

I sat down and listen to the man from the FBI remind me that I had been given a document from the federal government several years ago informing me of the fact that I no longer had control of my power technology because it had been deemed to be in the interests of the American people for it to remain in the control of federal authorities and that I was not to talk about it directly with other people, especially nationals of foreign countries without permission from the folks in
Washington DC.  He also reminded me that to do so would be breaking the law and committing a federal offence, which is a big thing here in America.  He went on to tell me that he was there in official capacity as an investigator from the FBI to see if i had indeed broken the law.  Why had I broken the law?  Because I had been discussing my technology with other people without the permission of the folks in Washington DC.  I asked them how they knew that I had spoken to people about my technology and they told me that:  First of all, it was not MY TECHNOLOGY.  I had no rights concerning it at all.  It is under the control of the federal government for the benefit of the people of the United States.
Second, The ownership of the technology is highly questionable.

Third, Do not play games with us Stephen, you know we know that you have been discussing the technology with anybody who will listen!  They further accused me of deliberately posting information on the Internet.  I said that I absolutely had not!  The man from the FBI said that i had been collaborating with a foreign gentlemen in Australia to post information and therefor had been involved in a conspiracy to dispense information which is against the law for me to
do.  Then he pulled out a rather large stack of papers which turned out to be copies of everything posted Internet wise about my technology for the last ten years or whatever.  Then my attorney interjected and they got into a long discussion which I didn't listen to very much.  I was looking at the man from the Atomic Energy Commission and noted he had a kind face.  He smiled at me and we began to talk.  He told me that he admired my work very much.  He told me that he thought of me as a fellow scientist.  He told me that as scientists we had an obligation to protect people from our findings or things we discover if they may be generally harmful to them or the public at large.

He told me that it was the duty of conscientious scientists to keep the black genies in the bottles so as not to harm society any more then necessary.  He mentioned the Atomic bomb and how much better the world would be if it never had been invented, right? I said , right!  He went on to discuss my technology in detail and reminded me of the destructive capability when the devices reach harmonic perfection.  I told him that was a good analogy, or way of putting it.  He told my that he didn't think I wanted to be responsible for giving out information making it possible and moreover inevitable that someone would make a big crater of a hole where their house used to stand with resulting death of themselves and possibly their families and neighbors too.  He finally finished up with, And for God sake, with the terrorists hunting for weapons of mass destruction, why on earth would you want to hand them something like this to use to kill perhaps many millions of people?  Do you think Moslems are not interested in this technology?  They have a lot of oil so they would be interested in it for another reason wouldn't they Stephen?  I agreed with him and told him I hadn't thought of it in that perspective before.

I told them all that I wasn't trying to do anything wrong at all.  I didn't realize the implications of the possible results of talking to you about the technology.  I told them that you were an engineer and interested in the scientific possibilities of the discovery only.  The agent from the FBI said that I had no real way of knowing who you were and what you might actually be up to did I?  I agreed with him.  He said that they read everything going into and out of your computer wether or not anything is posted on that web site we guys like so much...  He said that the Australian government was allied with the United States regarding this matter and that the Australian authorities would deal with you as need be.  However, lets hope it does not become necessary shall we? Yes of course I said?  I said, I never meant to get into trouble with this.

I told them I just felt bad because of all the nasty things people were saying about me and that i starting talking to you and you said that you would try and tell the straight story about me and the technology.  I have a right to defend my self don't I?  The answer was, NO!  I am not entitled to defend myself.  What i need to do is, to feel good about doing the right thing.  I need to do what my government tells me is good for me to do.  I need to develop pride in making the correct decision to keep quiet about  technology that may hurt other people or even help terrorists to kill many, many others.  I was told that With knowledge comes responsibility!!!  I told them I never intended to do anything wrong.  I was sorry.  I asked them to please forgive me and not to put me in prison.  They said they could prefer charges against me at any time but are
reluctant because of my well meaning attitude as displayed during the meeting.

They told me that It would be a good idea if I told you to post information saying that I had no intention of revealing anything about my experiments or how the demonstrations were accomplished to the extent that they convinced so many people of their authenticity.  That the demonstrations were more for amusement then anything else and that I am making it very clear that I never intended to convince the public at large.  People attempting to duplicate anything they have seen in my demonstrations will not be able to do so and should not try.  I asked them if I had their permission to tell you about today and they said yes of course.  So........... that is what happened to me today.  How was your day L- - - - - - 

Sincerely,
SM
« Last Edit: December 06, 2009, 02:02:05 AM by FatBird »

winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #511 on: December 06, 2009, 01:41:18 AM »
fat bird:
just i can say OMG
i am seriously thinking about every possibility

exxcomm0n

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #512 on: December 06, 2009, 06:31:31 AM »
Hi winson,

Most of the advice of the former posts is logically sound and a good place to start but they are forgetting a few things.

The cost of 100's of millions now to protect future  multiple trillions is just simple good business practice. They (whomever "they" may be) will spend it to protect future earnings or 'national security'.

Do not underestimate the lengths they will go to protect their money.

1.) There is safety in numbers.

Don't just send  just _1_ registered letter to yourself, send many to trusted associates (this part assumes you have reasonable faith in a significant group of people) as well and have them not open/deposit in a safety deposit box/include the plans in (open) source code software/hide the plans in a picture file on a published web site(s)/ establish a private torrent of the plans (to become public at a moment you choose to publish it)/ etc.

Not just _1_ working device.

Have as many people as you can trust build the device in as many countries as you can before you announce it and have them announce it at the same time.

It's easy for an established scientific community to hide _1_ device that proves modern accepted principles incorrect, but difficult to hide multiple devices that are in geographically diverse locations.

Again, do this not in just _1_ country, but in many.

The legal system in _1_ country may be corrupt to the point that even the safe guards you use could be circumvented, but if it is in many countries it is too widely spread to be hidden or stolen easily.

2.) Make the plans as simple and as low cost as you possibly can.

Leave it to the scientists to debate the possibility of your discovered concepts working.
Leave it to the "layman" (reasonably adept technician) to build it and see that it is truly more output than input.

He'll tell his buddy and help him build it too!
If he's at poverty level he has nothing to lose and everything to gain in providing for his family by building it for personal use.

A scholar can convince a student that a concept is impossible, it a LOT harder to convince someone USING a device they built that it doesn't work.

Just _1_ device that can do what you propose opens the minds of so many that they break the bonds of what they've learned is possible and start pushing the envelope in ways we haven't even imagined yet.

3.) Contact the Free Software Foundation about GPL licensing.

They are the only group I know of that is interested in the complete dissemination of knowledge for the public good and the proper accreditation of those that discover that knowledge.

4.) Have as much in place and ready for announcement to the public as possible in place.

As much as you may try, this may leak out before you're absolutely ready giving a large corporation a chance to steal it/patent it/ destroy it, but if it's all over the world by the time they say they own it, it is hard to believe any claim they might make.

5.) Send a device to Stefan AND the Nobel Peace Prize committee

Don't worry about how you can profit now, worry how you can profit later when the concept is "free" and YOU, the originator of the device can build a company to make a better one.

I don't mean to scare you, I mean for you to be the best prepared to give a gift to the world and enjoy what it will make possible.



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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #513 on: December 06, 2009, 08:58:35 AM »
I have a right to defend my self don't I?  The answer was, NO! I am not entitled to defend myself.  What i need to do is, to feel good about doing the right thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaa9iw85tW8#t=4m22s
You have the right to do whatever the hell you want to do & everyone has the right to retaliate. Nothing, human or otherwise can change that.

I need to do what my government tells me is good for me to do. I need to develop pride in making the correct decision to keep quiet about  technology that may hurt other people or even help terrorists to kill many, many others. I was told that with knowledge comes responsibility!!!
No, you don't NEED to do what anyone says you have do do. No matter what they may be called, or how ever many people are in it, no group has the power to make you do things unless you agree to it. By the sound of it their only real means of controlling you is through fear, so thats all the more reason NOT to listen to them. THEY are the terrorists.

Any technology that MAY hurt other people MAY ALSO save thousands of lives and improve the world we live in a thousand fold! With knowledge does come responsibility, but when you share that knowledge with others it becomes their responsibility as well & no one is responsible for anyone elses actions. We are all responsible for our own. Think of all the things that might not exist today if Alternating Current did not exist. Now think of how few of those things are used to harm, and how many are used to make your life better. The more advances made in technology, the fewer uses are for violence.

The more widely available the information is & the more people know how to replicate a free energy device, the less an individual can be threatened. If it truely works, and the more easily it can be made, the more it will spread. If everyone knows it, the origional inventor can't be silenced by big brother/business, because there isn't anything left to silence.

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #514 on: December 06, 2009, 01:01:09 PM »
I have to congratulate Winsonali for the discovery and am looking forward to having the opportunity to witness personally, or have the device sent to me, for his worldwide presentation plan of the discovery.
The inventor deserves his name to be remembered, and the effect being discovered deserves to be named after the inventor himself.
This community (Free Energy Forum) is destined to host this kind of events and also we are here to provide all kind of support( be it economical, social, technical,etc) to someone who indeed has something useful to share with all the humanity. 2012 is near, we do not have much time to prepare ourselves for the worst to come. Let us hurry up.
I am all ears, Winsonali, if I can be of any help to you.

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #515 on: December 06, 2009, 01:48:27 PM »
I believe if someone can switch power line exactly at passive parts of AC cycle he can duplicate power in series connected transformers.Just another way to see it. There are many ways to tap this power, we just need the simplest for start to let people build survival devices (to heat,light and boil water)

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #516 on: December 06, 2009, 03:02:25 PM »
Fatbird do you really believe these conspiration theories? Dont be so silly.
1) I reviewed all compilations about TPU device - no equations that describe this device!!! It reminds me Tom Bearden theories. Few years ago I got free book from him. Very thick book but man rarely could find some equation if any for his new "super theory". How is it possible? Because its all bullshit. Engineers must comprehend language of mathematics - without it they could not design such amazing things like computers or cars or bridges and so on. Mathematics is language of science. How do you want to construct electric generator if you dont know output power, current, voltage? Without it you cant calculate overvoltage protection, overcurrent protection, correct cooling, diameter of wires, parameters of RLC elements, size of final unit and so on.
2) Do you think that oil will be forever with us? Do you not see oil prices rising in last years? I dont think so and oil companies know this even better. The earlier we find replacement for fossil fuels the best for world. What would be reason for concealing this technology? Oil companies can make money on this like they made money from extracting oil for last 150 years.

winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #517 on: December 06, 2009, 07:30:42 PM »
mathematics is the poetry of science

the development process of all inventions is as follows

NEED the mother of invention

first observation
then imagination

then valuation  experimentation involvement of mathematics

rules formation

need full filled, job accomplishment

father of invention scientist

i will not rule out fatbird observation but now a different situation
jon kolar is right, alternative energy source is required and it is their need too so  now they will occupy you or your technology  coz they like to remain in their status,once if we go  in their hands the common man will not be able to get benefit,he has to pay what he is paying now, our goal is to benefit common man , every man , and for every body.

regarding other inventions.
SM' TPU  machine is seemingly unthoughtful and setup is hard to be fake production.
here is a bit clue of his machines operations i am not sure but this patent document match perfectly.

INKOMP from Bulgaria is also progressing  and a lot many people working but not showing there work soon it will open and you will get
another source of energy.i am one of those people working and have achieved some level yet to prove myself. In my work a proper mathematics and calculations are involved. 



« Last Edit: December 06, 2009, 07:57:11 PM by winsonali »

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #518 on: December 08, 2009, 06:39:20 AM »
To save some time, those diagrams are from M.P.I. (Magnetic Power Inc. now Chava Energy) PATENT APPLICATION only. They are not SM and they and the owner have no affiliation with SM. BTW, SM TPU's does not even need a physical core. Anyhow, still amazing.

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #519 on: December 08, 2009, 07:35:53 AM »
Regarding SM's gag order... i beleve FEAR stands for "False Evidence Appearing Real" aka FEAR. I understand to the best of my compassion why things are the way they are and I understand to the best of my compassion why my US government is regulating SM's technology. We all get old and let's all stay alive... Gov. + people must get rid of fear and replace it with Peace & Love. Harmonize that people! Happy Holidays!

PEACE1

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #520 on: December 08, 2009, 10:27:42 AM »
Maybe the following circuits do not relate much to the principle of functioning of Winsonali's device, but since he brought up the TPU and the other device's pictures to this thread, I will risk getting off topic, and attempt to bring to Winsonali's attention of these circuits. The first one is from Alexander Meissner. It is an oscilator, which performs self-oscilation. The second is a diagram from J. Flynn's patent, a power conversion circuit via parallel path principle.
According to a guy named "TheGuru2You", if the Meissner circuit is connected to the control coils of Flynn 's circuit, the apparatus will create flipping flux in the both sides, thus generating HF AC (600VAC, 0.1A several hundred KHz approx.)in the lateral coils alternatively.
The guy said the device is supposed to generate power by the flux from the 2 permanent magnets, using a small quantity of power (12VDC 0.2A) for the switching. No video of the prototype provided.
The Flynn principle is well known already. I wonder if Winsonali is aware of this kind of arrangement for power generation.

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #521 on: December 08, 2009, 09:39:28 PM »
Everyone is giving advice but i am Still waiting for the next video of a detailed working model. just put it on youtube and follow the given advices to open source it, so the world can be relieved from the villains.

winsonali

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #522 on: December 09, 2009, 12:14:54 AM »
i am in the middle of packing up the device properly and will post the video very shortly.
i have selected the course of action as per advice and its going to benefit for all and i just finishing the software for output regulation its very difficult to deal with fixed gauss system as you need to vary frequency with output rise and fall to accommodate and produce linear voltage and meet proper current requirement.
 

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #523 on: December 09, 2009, 04:34:22 PM »
Creative commons - non commercial

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Re: New invention of motion less generation of electric power
« Reply #524 on: December 10, 2009, 12:07:02 AM »
i am in the middle of packing up the device properly and will post the video very shortly.
i have selected the course of action as per advice and its going to benefit for all and i just finishing the software for output regulation its very difficult to deal with fixed gauss system as you need to vary frequency with output rise and fall to accommodate and produce linear voltage and meet proper current requirement.
 

THANK YOU winsonali!!!

I will be one of the first to promptly help you financially to my potential (even though that may not be much but something of substance at least for my budget), once your project is publicly exposed and replications starts.

It is from people like your kind (a great kind) that humans progress in life! You are already being honored just by this simple act of selflessness of yours.

THANK YOU.

Fausto.