forest...for not being an EE, you seem to have a broad base of knowledge.

Something occurred to me when you wondered is Tesla was purposely misleading.

I wonder if you just reversed his 'directions' wherever possible, would that be the key to truly understanding his patents ?

Regards...

How so ? I don't understand you. Do you state that Tesla has spoken using some code and we should read it "in reverse" ? I don't think so.
Entering into passive zone means unidirectional transfer of energy - nothing is lost ,nothing is reflected back. Now, that require ambient background as a carrier. This is how I understand it and I feel it's not far from truth.

Imagine a swing and you on it.Then somebody is trying to stop swing and you have to work harder to sustain oscillations. This is active zone and lenz law and the person trying to stop swing is the load.Resonance is destroyed.
Now imagine that you have magic ball in hands.Whenever you are at the top position of swing you throw that ball away by using swing kinetic energy nothing more.Just before the peak, the 1/4 of period of oscillation.Resonance is  not interrupted, ball is thrown away and accidentally you may even got a force back which strengthen amplitude of oscillations.
Ball is now in passive zone and can make work around. Look , because it is now unidirectional energy transfer.  Of course that magic ball has to be recreated now. This is not overunity yet. This is 100% efficient system with unidirectional energy transfer.
That's why I said at start that pushing total energy of primary into secondary makes difference. Whenever you have unidirectional energy transfer you have efficient system and half-open gate to overunity systems.

wattsup:
Genie has an output just like an inverter where both wire show live currents means if you take a tester and check the source with ground you will find both the wires are active.but when you check the same thing at main source in you home you will get one live wire and one return on one live wire you will get both -ve and +ve due to this reason e cannot feed back genie during process of testing i with the help of a physicist and electronic engineer discover high current spikes in genie and now we have recovered that problem by adjusting switching timing this has changed a lot of results, Now all this effort i am putting in to developing a method or power supply which can work same as live wire and give you output then i can re loop the output and produce self running system.

Forest:

i am using 2.4 GHZ in ISM band with no return to ground
always remember if you get spark or flair in any electrical transmission it means it is high voltage not high current and this high voltage is unable to get the proper exit from conductor so it is coming out with pressure and huge lose. if its a proper gate means antenna of proper wave length it will convert into EM waves and it will not make an spark or plasma.
well i have to proof my concept with practical which i have achieved up to an extent

difference between active and passive zone is very big.
and example of passive zone.
one thing more if you have room with mirror from all sides and you lit the light bulb you will find a lot of brightness and increased luminescence does it means you have increased the power.
Now if the same room is painted black you will find a lot less brightness as well as low luminescence

another example when you go out in sun light at a normal temperature of lets say 30 degree centigrade it will not burn you for example on beaches you can find hot babes taking sun bath..
now if you take a small lens and focus the reflection of sun  on a wood or paper it will burn.
its up to us how we observe things and can use them in our daily life.
Tesla has his vision and i have mine lets see . .. now i have to proof myself with practical by completing this system.
in my next post i will put the brochure of my inverter.   



 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_-Iv9FddOU

watch this video and see how much power you can transfer through RF

winsonali

I'm not EE and I don't understand Lenz law source but I have a felling that it is simple a manifestation of Newton third law. Action vs reaction. Always apply for interconnected things
Example : two magnets, pull one the second will react
Someone could see transformer as two magnets but here we have a problem - we still don't know exactly what electricity is.
But I like Don Smith interpretation that this is like EM wave - has two faces : electrical and magnetic, flip-flop , turn one and the other will jump out.
Then transformer could be : E-M: M-E two dipoles (M- magnetic, E-electric) in two wires. Connect load to E
of secondary ,which pull this second dipole and the magnetic part of it will rise (because as Smith says E and M are equal and opposite like in dipole), this magnetic part of secondary will now affect magnetic part of primary due to Lenz law (or Newton action vs reaction law).

This is rough idea, sorry if that is completely wrong but I like it.

lenz force is nothing but a physical phenomena the reason of this force is as follows

there are three conditions

if you take  magnet close to a iron piece it will attract regardless of polarity
if a magnet face opposite directions attraction occurs
, and similar direction repulsion occurs.

in a motor a coil winded on a core , the magnet attract core material and stop in front of it, to make a move we create electromagnet that can offer repulsion so the magnet go away from there, now more powerful electromagnet means more powerful powerful motor.

In a motor we require first enough force that can equate PM force then what ever force above that we generate will make a through in rotation.

so basically there is nothing esp the force required to overcome the force of attraction between core and PM is called lens force and this is the only element that have a tendency to stop a motor.

Now we can generate an air core motor that will run but can never be very powerful like Joseph Newman he has developed a motor with air core half part is  receiver, half is dissipating power but when you apply load on them they will fail .

 Bedini's motors are working motor why his system is failed?
 when the  magnet appears in front of the coil it generate a voltage peak sensed by the circuit and transistor switches on to make a EM so it can create a mechanical through, smart thinking ,
but he forget one thing the same peak is also induced in EM winding he has to put double EE to overcome the induced voltage peak. so its all failed nothing esp. less efficient

the only way the motor can be very efficient is double Electro magnets firing in proper sequence , and this how latest motors are designed. but they also consume 2 powers one for rotor and other for stator so its equal to bedini's motor
In squrill cage motors the cage itself become secondary winding of the transformer.


Now where science is at this moment its at its peak in these systems if you think out of the box then possibly you get new output.

in my next post i will define four ways of EE production.

we are not far away when we discover a method for EE just like a magnet
once you pass material through a process it become PM and retain its status for years same as we will process in such a way that once EE starts its production it will retain its process for years.   

 
 

forest:
these are very interesting things i never knew about this stuff

hmm,Tesla explained it here :

"I hope that I have been clear in this exposition – in bringing to your attention that what I show here is the system of the day, and is my system -- only the radio engineers use my apparatus to produce too much of this electromagnetic energy here, instead of concentrating all their attention on designing an apparatus which will impress a current upon the earth and not waste the power of the plant in an uneconomical process.

Counsel

You say radio engineers put too much energy into the radiating part.  What, as a matter of fact, according to your conception, is the part of the energy that is received in the receivers in the present system?

Tesla

That has been investigated.  Very valuable experiments have been made by Dr. Austin, who has measured the effects at a distance.  He has evolved a formula in agreement with the Hertz wave theory, and the energy collected is an absolutely vanishing quantity.  It is just enough to operate a very delicate receiver.  If it were not for such devices as are now in use, the audion, for instance, nothing could be done.  But with the audion, they magnify so that this infinitesimal energy they get is sufficient to operate the receiver.  With my system, I can convey to a distant point millions of times the energy they transmit."


Ok,then we are using radio transmitters incorrectly.The only reason why we have a radio is the invention of vacuum tubes and then transistors for magnification of feeble signals. What a shame and waste of power !