previously we were using the standard DC formulas

these meters are true RMS and show exact power consumed over a complete cycle

the input device getting peak 5.0 amps for only micro seconds and only for 49 volts rms and voltage and current are in same phase if we distribute the power for over all cycle it will give you real power(meter showing)  on each cycle so these readings are correct

i want to post oscilloscope wave forms but that will take more time for explaining

the end result is

where i have installed 2 units we are consuming less electricity bills the device can be used as transformer less, coil less or solid state voltage stablizer with energy saving feature

countries where we have power fluctuations this is low cost and energy saving device can be used with aircons and reduce electricity bills

yes one thing more this time we have switched the input and output such that when device is taking input the output  is in transactional phase (shifting from negative to positive or positive to negative more or less on zero) so when input is coming,  there is no out flow when output  flow is through (we block the input section) no input is coming so it looks  like it collect a bucket of charge,  close the input door,  process it through output and return to input again.  We are not taking any  input when output is open for flow.

i am still working and have targets to achieve.

a very interesting thing i put a "coil with permanent magnet in side" before input without changing any thing  and the power was so high that every thing blow up in blink of an eye

on investigation the positive side of output was blown and same as input was damaged where positive input is seperated after zero detection

but when i just flip the coil connection and magnet inside it this time negative side blow up

i need to work a lot now     


Ali

I worked out the same math as homersimpson.  Ali - are 'we' missing something?

surely i will record the screen shots from oscilloscope and will post in my new video

@Wattbuilder and Stefan
You could learn a lesson from Ali. He was kind enough to allow another member of this forum and a retired physicist to visit and test his original device. Using oscilloscopes they were able to explain to Ali where his measurements were possibly flawed because of the meters he was using and what he should use and how to test. The device was a very well built, and certainly would have tricked power meters provided by utilities. To Ali's full credit, rather than argue the point he went into building circuts to address the issues raised and I believe is making great progress. he embraced the advice and is developing solutions.
Hats of to Ali as he listened to people with the experience and qualifications to assist him. Ali himself is a brilliant man and a very original thinker with honesty and integrity.
I look forward to when he is ready to have these people visit again to confirm what he is working on now. There is no hurry and all will happen in good time.
The cost of this assistance was $0. We have also put in place that once certain criteria are met virtually unlimited funding and resources through a humanitarian organisation for Ali to continue his work.
I guess my point Mr Wattbuilder is to listen to those with the experience to help you and address concerns raised like Ali has rather than your ignorant buried in the sand approach. Help is there if you need it and can be arranged. Just arguing the point will get you now where and refusual to do tests that will either confirm or bust your theories in not the way of progress.
Once again ,hats of to Ali for his humility, generosity and honesty.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

@teslaalset
That is a good point you raise. Like I have always said I need to be placed under scrutiny as well.
In this case and most others I leave it entirely up to the owner or the inventor of the technology to release reports conducted by my associates. It is their decision. In some cases they also need advice on ways to move forward the technology.
In many others(if not most) I have to sign an NDA. If that is the case I am not at liberty to disclose reports, test results or findings.
You criticism is valid, and I accept that.
However I often act as a person who puts people in contact with other people who can help them with no strings attached. This was the case with Ali. We also in some instances offer assistance in other ways depending on the desire of the inventor.
A lot of people come here kite flying or post video's on you tube to create interest, often seeking funds. Where I believe I do add some value to the forums is in that my experience in travelling the world and researching technologies can challenge those with purposes that are not always ethical.
For every technology you see here there are many others that never reach public forums, and wish to remain private for a variety of reasons, more often than not they do not want attention.
However I applaud your questioning of my motives and can not offer a simple answer, hopefully the above goes some way of explaining my position.
I also do not want to embarrass people who are genuine if they have made mistakes in testing or evaluating data. In many case they go away and continue with their projects. In many cases they attack the messenger.
In Ali's case he took the test data and proceeded to address the issues and has made his progress public. I applaud this and this is a demonstration of my no strings attached approach.
In other case people require funds for further research or to commercialise there intellectual property. I have always offered my services freely if that is the case.
There is an ongoing debate which is the fastest way for people to recieve benefit from new technologies. In some cases its open source in others its private equity funding. In my opinion it depends on the project.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

Teslaalset:

circiut: This time we have switched the input and output such that when device is taking input the output  is in transactional phase (shifting from negative to positive or positive to negative more or less on zero) so when input is coming,  there is no out flow when output  flow is through (we block the input section) no input is coming so it looks  like
it collect a bucket of charge, 
close the input door,
 process it through output(feed back looping)
and return(program pointer) to input again.
We are not taking any  input when output is open for flow.


a very interesting thing i put a "coil with permanent magnet in side" before input without changing any thing  and the power was so high that every thing blow up in blink of an eye

on investigation the positive side of output was blown and same as input was damaged where positive input is seperated after zero detection

but when i just flip the coil connection and magnet inside it this time negative side blow up

this means i can get more power if i use permanent magnet based coils in input. this is a sort of device using electromagnetism for current amplification. still working

MARK:
Thankyou for your comments and i acknowledge that due to mark i have learned a lot and in my progress his his role is pivotal.

what i think about Mark as people have different hobbies and interest, his goal and aim in life is to help people working hard in alternative energy. and for this purpose he spend money and time.

i am thankful to everyone here on the forum.

Ali 

Mark thanks for elaborating on that.

I am questioning this because I think there are mainly 3 kind of people active in this forum:
1) people that want to share and solve new energy solutions in the open for free,
2) people that want to earn money out of potential inventions before others do (and try to suppress open innovation)
3) people that want to cover up new energy inventions as fast as possible for economical or political reasons.

Apart from those there are a lot of people that just want to interfere and clutter up discussions.
Initiators in this forum should be very aware of this.
Most of them are smart enough to know that already.

Omega:

please read the old posts all the answers are there if things are so simple things must have been done by everyone here. my system needs below zero voltages to generate siphon effect. a simple DC input will not work here we need alternating currents..
is a design requirement


i know there are many highly knowledgeable and qualified people. There advices are very valuable for me
if you know any device that slow down the meter for resistive loads please inform me i would like to see how that works or any article that exhibits the process which can slow down the meter i really want to know what is the process they use please don't refer PFC for induction motors they don't effect resistive loads.

also i am not claiming any thing i am just a learner , some how i have developed a new transformerless, coil less , AC voltage stabilizer. may good for third world countries only....

regards