Author Topic: New invention of motion less generation of electric power (Read 350858 times)

minde4000 · « **Reply #180 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:41:14 PM »

Last Stefan post looked sort of something promising..
Ali could keep public here up to date on whats going on not thats he has to but.. time will tell I guess. He said he would share..

Minde

hartiberlin · « **Reply #181 on:** September 16, 2009, 11:43:37 PM »

Ali said,
that he would take samples via his DSP from the input each 10 milliseconds
or so and then has 40 computations time for taking the next sample from the input.

In these 40 instructions ( computations ) he would charge up the other cap like an
"image" of the other cap and then he told something like a^2 + b^2 or (a+b)^2 or
something like this , I did not understood what he meant by it , maybe somehow the
shadowing of charges inside the caps and thus maybe electrical induction
influence charge generation ??

the connection was pretty bad, so I did not fully got it, what he meant.

He said, he uses a DSP with ADC and DAC converters and maybe his DSP is also
producing the 50 Hz Waveform via an external Power DAC and the Supply Voltage for
the DAC is just using the multiplied input voltage ?

I really wonder, how he produces the 50 Hz waveform from the chopped phase input signals.

He said, with the ADC he can trigger the DSP on the zero point crossing, so he
knows, when the input goes through zero.
Maybe he uses this to generate a new 50 Hz signal based on the zero crossings ?

With DSP code you can do lots of things, so it seems this is pretty complicated all
and will depend mostly on the software.

But it would be good, if we would know the basic effect behind his "? charge-imaging-shadowing ?"
effect, so this could also be tried with simpler switching circuits, not just via a DSP only...

Regards, Stefan.

FatBird · « **Reply #182 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:34:30 AM »

Stefan,

Thank you for posting and sharing what you know about Ali's Unit.

Could you please ask him what value the 3 Caps are (voltage rating and how many microfarads).

Thank you very much sir,

.

Mk1 · « **Reply #183 on:** September 17, 2009, 08:57:50 AM »

http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/29990/Dr__Steven_Greer_The_Promise_of_New_Energy/

robbie47 · « **Reply #184 on:** September 17, 2009, 10:50:42 PM »

What really matters is the way Ali produces the extra energy.
This is the core of it all.
It would really help if Ali would explain first how he is doing that.

The next thing to know is what kind of switches he is using.
Are they FETs or Triacs?

winsonali · « **Reply #185 on:** September 18, 2009, 12:59:58 AM »

i am in process of development of unit with isolated power system facing few challenges in timing matching to override current spikes
stefan have given you the right idea about how the unit is working the switching cannot be more simple otherwise i would have done it the negative edge is very much required to produce high voltages without below zero voltages my unit will not work

i am now a days very busy in further developments sorry for late response

Ali

hartiberlin · « **Reply #186 on:** September 18, 2009, 09:28:29 AM »

Maybe ALI is using some kind of R2R Power DAC (digital to Analog converter)
but is using capacitors instead of a Resistor network ?
So it would be a C2C network of caps ?
So, when it is just 4 bits parallel DAC he just needs only 4 electronic switches to
switch 4 different big capacitors.

For a staircase sine wave he will then have 16 staircase steps which would
be okay to approximate the sine waveform.

Okay, this is just a guess and I donÂ´t know, if he is doing it this way,
but I ponder, how he is generating his 50 Hz waveform at the output...

Regards, Stefan.

teslaalset · « **Reply #187 on:** September 18, 2009, 12:18:21 PM »

Stefan, it's also possible by using PWM (pulse width modulation) into an output capacitor that feeds the load.
Then you need only one switching element.
Some DSP's support sinus PWM output functions because the embedded DA converter consists of one a bit output that requires an external capacitor.
The DSP monitors output wave shape en amplitude by taking samples from the load and than adjust PWM switch that transfers energy from local buffer(s) to output.

There may be two local power buffers, one with a positive voltage, one with a negative voltage.
One will do, when you first reverse + and - poles of the internal power buffer once you need to change the polarity of the output voltage.

To save components one can also leave the output capacitor out and connect the PWM switch directly to the load.

EMdevices · « **Reply #188 on:** September 19, 2009, 06:46:38 AM »

Ali,

you don't have to build a DC input for your device, just go buy a cheap 12 Volt inverter (100 Watt or so) and use that to create your 220 V AC that goes to the dimmer.

If you really get 5 times more power output from your device, or whatever you claim, the insertion loss of the inverter should be insignificant, so just measure the DC power input to the inverter and the AC power output to the light bulbs and you will prove to us it works as claimed.

Just an idea,

EM

MasterPlaster · « **Reply #189 on:** September 19, 2009, 10:40:54 AM »

Yes and there are inverters with true sinusoidal output available from eBay .

spoondini · « **Reply #190 on:** September 19, 2009, 04:30:59 PM »

Ali,
How long will the genie output 5x the input power?

neha9243 · « **Reply #191 on:** September 19, 2009, 06:29:26 PM »

Ali

the method of DC input to the inverter and then dimmer to genie and o/p of jenie to bulbs will clear all the doubts

Omega_0 · « **Reply #192 on:** September 20, 2009, 03:43:32 PM »

Interesting presentation on "self energy" of capacitors:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-jWfzkz_E

teslaalset · « **Reply #193 on:** September 20, 2009, 05:39:13 PM »

Quote from: Omega_0 on September 20, 2009, 03:43:32 PM

Interesting presentation on "self energy" of capacitors:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-jWfzkz_E

Omega, that might be a very essential finding for this thread.
Could be one of the missing links here.

According to Stephen, Ali used terms like (a+b)^2 in his Skype conversation.
Look to the energy formula in Eue Jin Jeong's video......
Also, in Eue Jin Jeong's youtube video he mentioned a Forced Harmonic Oscillation. Another resemblance?

Omega_0 · « **Reply #194 on:** September 21, 2009, 10:04:45 AM »

Yes, there could be some relation.
Lets see what Ali has to say on this.

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