Author Topic: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments (Read 287779 times)

jdcmusicman · « **Reply #450 on:** August 09, 2009, 07:23:11 PM »

I just checked my stainless steel/aluminum cell in full sun ..
This one is just dirt no electrolyte and I have not been adding any water its just been sitting outside on my steps for days now ..
But anyway ..
Last night my readings were .54 volts 2 ma shorted
Today in full sun it is .66 volts 3.2 ma shorted ..

This is a pretty good change in my opinion
So apparently It does better in the day than night .
Can't wait to get more data on this to be sure ..
This is exciting .I will try to build a copper/zinc one tonight and see how it performs between night/day..

Thanks Jdcmusicman

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #451 on:** August 09, 2009, 07:54:20 PM »

JDC:

That is good information to have. Nice work.

Bill

jeanna · « **Reply #452 on:** August 10, 2009, 07:04:10 AM »

Hi everybody,
Do you remember a couple of days ago how I put up a comparison pic of 3 battery systems all in a row at each scope resolution so you could compare them?
Of course you do.
This is the direct link to the page I am referring to.
0.5us resolution.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7769.msg195645#msg195645

I will post some more (not like that day however) of just this same resolution.
This is for yesterday and today
AND
it is comparing the plain EB with the EB=EER which has a Stubblefield generator added to both ends.
The ground was pretty dry 2 days ago and there was a light mist this morning and I am sure it had some effect, but it was not much water as water goes. The surface of the ground was dry.
So, 2 days 2 battery types 1 resolution.
(oh darn 2 days ago the earth battery alone was too low to see anything at .5us I just have 5ms.)
Still, it is worth seeing the comparison.

jeanna

The order goes like this
yesterday
EB vdc on DMM
EB 5ms
NS added on N and S .5us
today
EB vdc on DMM
EB .5us
NS added on N and S .5us

Big difference today the NS has almost 40mv consistently and the EB has about 7.5mV.

jeanna · « **Reply #453 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:04:16 PM »

Must be the whole earth is responding.
I just took today's measurements. It is normal on the plain EB, but the NS on both ends , although it has more according to the dmm (less for the past few days, but up a bit today) shows even lower than the plain EB.

Oh how to sort this out?
I hope someone else can get outside daily and give some reports.
I do not know if this is a local phenomenon? (military base nearby) or global? or what else?

The first 2 are plain EB
The last 3 are with added NS on each end.
This looks higher AS usual on the 5ms screen, but the next moment it fell and stayed low as you can see in the final pic the voltage is lower than with the plain EB

jeanna

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #454 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:51:55 AM »

Jeanna:

You are not close to Mt. St. Helens are you? Now you are going to ask me why I asked that and....I don't really know...just that you mentioned some funny readings up there.

Bill

jeanna · « **Reply #455 on:** August 11, 2009, 04:33:19 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 11, 2009, 12:51:55 AM

You are not close to Mt. St. Helens are you? ...

...just that you mentioned some funny readings up there.

I just found this link.
And I will keep it on a bookmark.

http://www.pnsn.org/recenteqs/Maps/Mount_St._Helens_eqs.htm

According to this there was a magnitude 2.0 eq on saturday morning at 10 am .. and at least 2 last month. I will check the camera times for saturday.
Good question, Bill.

I am not very far. It takes maybe 2 hours to get to the access road, perhaps 2 1/2, but that says little about how far by the crow or ufo or whatever you are flying these days.

I saw one or 2 hints that there were a couple of spikes today but not enough to be sure etc.

I once looked up to see what would be in the 1hz range. I was surprized to find out that the earthquake is 1hz.

I wish some others would join in this. It is too bad xee2 doesn't have a scope. It would tell us a lot about what earthquakes look like pretty quickly.

I will have to stop in a month or so when the rains begin. I enjoy this so I will be continuing until then.

thank you,

jeanna

Cosmicfarmer · « **Reply #456 on:** August 11, 2009, 06:27:08 AM »

I apologize for the non ground sensor reply.

@electricme. I saw out of the corner of my eye a news show clipping of some cops taking a 2 day old baby from some place I forgot, and instantly remembered you. Do you think you got to my news that fast, or is a rash of baby kidnappings occurring?

any clue why you were targeted?
I'm sorry this really disturbs me. I'll try to get over it but I wont rant here about it.

DreamThinkBuild · « **Reply #457 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:08:07 PM »

Hi all,

I've been pretty busy but I saw the Topic on the "Self Charging Capacitor".

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=400ea5b6a192a0e61e673407e74e220e&topic=7511.msg196715#new

When I saw that it has two plates with wax in between, it got me thinking. If you take a copper pipe with two end caps. Drill a hole in the end caps for the zinc rod which is isolated by rubber washers. Fill it with the wax, set a high voltage on the +/- terminals and let it harden inside the copper pipe. I wonder if a Electret earth battery can be made? So many projects to work on so little time.

IotaYodi · « **Reply #458 on:** August 12, 2009, 06:17:20 AM »

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jeanna · « **Reply #459 on:** August 12, 2009, 09:44:38 PM »

Hi everybody,
I have been using up hard drive space at a very rapid pace, so this morning I spent some time clearing out old footage that was repeated etc.

Now, yesterday I found an earthquake site for pacific northwest folks. It covers eq's from Oregon to Vancouver... southern BC Canada.
I saw there that there were eq's in july that ended um I think the 17th and not until the 8th of August were there any more.

So, as I clear out unused or already used pics and movies, I am checking them for the date and time...

Now, I never took any datalogging pics at the exact times, but there is a possibility that my pictures have been reflecting this, anyway.

[edit]: I did take some within 2 hours and more within 7 hours for several days.
end edit..

It would be the magnetic/electrical effect on the NS generators or the EP probes, not seismic activity. (I am not detecting motion etc. I do not even own a gps device.)

ooo the plot thickens.

jeanna

edit:
Thanks, Bill for mentioning earthquakes and my location the other day!

IotaYodi · « **Reply #460 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:55:51 PM »

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It would be the magnetic/electrical effect on the NS generators or the EP probes, not seismic activity.

I think sesmic activity could cause a change in the current. Ive taken my probes straight into the earth at various places. The resistance is constantly fluctuating. I took readings in 3 different spots in the shade and they seemed much higher than in the direct sun. You can move one probe any distance away from the other and get a much higher or lower resistance reading. A changing resistance will change the overall circuits electrical makeup .
If the earth moves I think its an automatic change in the resistance. To what degree only experiments would tell. It would probably be more pronounced locally.
Watched a storm last night and this thought crossed my mind. Lightning being a potential of negative and positive charges releasing the voltage. The same thing could be happening within the earth but just on a lower scale. If that were so, it may give you the spikes on the scope. Im just wondering if this potential is greater at a deeper depth say like hundreds or thousands of feet. Pirate may know a little more on the subject if he took geology.

jeanna · « **Reply #461 on:** August 13, 2009, 01:52:46 AM »

That is interesting IY

I was just at another forum and a member published these 2 maps they are colored grid maps of the usa.
I think the whole site has more.
I am living in a non grid place and I grew up in NJ which is a non grid state.
I know there are grids everywhere, just not major ones. I will put these up just in case anyone can find home on these maps.

here is a link to the page:
http://www.missionignition.net/bethe/GSU_Geostat_Report.php

jeanna

IotaYodi · « **Reply #462 on:** August 13, 2009, 04:22:39 AM »

That is real interesting. I live real close to the major grey in Florida. Coral Castle in Homestead looks like its right on the white grid line. Homestead is about 20 miles north of where the keys begin. I dont think the location is coincidence.
This is impressive.

Quote

"Geophysicists from the Department of Earth Sciences and the Bureau of Mineral Resources have discovered part of a huge underground circuit near Broken Hill. . .which contains electrical currents of more than a million amps. . .
The circuit was found using a sensor which detects fluctuating fields in the earth's crust. These are created in response to events, such as thunderstorms and the movement of dissolved salts in artesian water."

jeanna · « **Reply #463 on:** August 13, 2009, 05:00:23 AM »

Quote from: IotaYodi on August 13, 2009, 04:22:39 AM

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Coral Castle in Homestead looks like its right on the white grid line. Homestead is about 20 miles north of where the keys begin. I dont think the location is coincidence.
...

I agree.
Bill is on a cross of 4 lines.

And look at that spot SW of Tucson. It shows nothing on the map. Just desert and maybe a border town. I bet there is an amazing underground archeological dig there. How many lines can possibly cross? Forget Sedona!

Take your dowsing rods and earth batteries, and go for a hike!

jeanna

jeanna · « **Reply #464 on:** August 13, 2009, 05:49:31 AM »

Check this out.

I just went outside for some datalogging.
It drizzled all day yesterday and rained lightly til noon today. This 8PM was the first I dared take my things outside.

I have 2 pics from the true earth battery and 2 from the one that has NS added to each end. woah Same resolution for the 2 both being .5us and the volts resolution is set to 5mv per division.

The caption says what the pic above it is.

Hey, where is everybody? Did everybody lose their scope?
Anyway this is so interesting.
With the ground pretty wet, the NS at the end are way down from the plain and the ac readings are way up.

jeanna

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