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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16556440 times)

T-1000

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10875 on: February 19, 2012, 05:06:59 PM »
Just not to be distracted too far, here is basic for those who are not good in electronics:

http://www.lucidcafe.com/library/96jul/teslaauto06.html - My Inventions - Chapter 6—The Magnifying Transmitter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFohadroheM - Tesla's Little Secret


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10876 on: February 19, 2012, 08:09:51 PM »
I am totally puzzled about  the mechanical overunity motor of Tariel Kapanadze.

In the German translation it is said, that it also used gravitation.
But I guess it just only uses the inertia of the 2 discs.

It is said, that the 2 disc are of steel and brass or maybe each disc is
a double layer of steel and brass and that these discs are connected via a brass wire, that is isolated from the steel shaft.

The toroidal transformer, that is put around  the shaft seems to be
the main motive power source and it is said in the "broken" Russian-German translation
that it uses just 8 Watts of power.

I am still totally puzzled, how this motor should really work...

I could only image that it uses some kind of eddy current torque drive effects on the shaft
so there might be a rotational field inside the toroidal transformer that might generate
eddy currents inside the shaft that will rotate the shaft...??


But I don´t understand how it is possible to generate such strong
torque forces to rotate the axis with these 2 heavy discs and then still propell
the car alternator and  still power this at least 100 Watts lights with it
and the only power used to start it is from a small 9 Volts battery !!!

Amazing !


This movie is from a new release from a Russian movie from youtube user Realstrannik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZC5CwCTv4I

As this movie was very long, I chopped it up in parts to make it easier to view.


Many thanks to the Russian Realstrannik forum admin for posting this video.

I posted it on my youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/overunitydotcom/videos

as backup copies.

Regards, Stefan.
Take a closer look at the underside views, notice the feet... what looks like protrusions' showing below each foot. The base board appears to have a circular indentation to align the feet!!!  perhaps just to aid stabilising?  ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZC5CwCTv4I)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10877 on: February 19, 2012, 08:48:16 PM »
This Kapanadze motor is IMHO NO N-machine !
It has no big magnets and is missing any current brushes at the rim
of the discs...


You don't get it, an AC one would not need brushes.
It would be based on AC capacitive currents in the disks.


If you look at it, it makes sense only I'm shocked at the effectiveness, I'd have figured it immeasurable.


The donut will should not allow any detectable magnetic flux out, but it will produce a so-called a-field which is really just a relativisticly distorted E-field.


This E-field would normally induce current in the secondary coil around a transformer, but here it is inducing a current in the shaft and disks, but it is AC and must be made resonant.


This can also induce current in the coil on the shaft so it produces an AC magnetic field.


The magnetic field produced in the shaft returns through the air cutting the disks.


The phase between the magnetic field and the currents has to be just right.


The most interesting conundrum is that the reaction force must be placed of either the aether/space and the air that carries the displacement current.


This means that perhaps displacement current is at the heart of both his devices?


The issue is that you would need a very high frequency, I'm not sure what kind of frequency, but it would perhaps be close to the frequency found from assuming the disks were a 1/4 wave length oscillator. (very high)
Unless when up to speed the magnetic field from the rotor makes the electrons path much longer essentially lengthening the whole thing.










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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10878 on: February 19, 2012, 09:27:28 PM »
Maybe  the soundproofing foam has been added because it is highly
electrostatic and promotes  the  accumulation of electric charges
 necessary for the beginning of the cycle of amplification.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10879 on: February 19, 2012, 09:34:46 PM »
why you need a double ground?
is the difference of potential between two points of contact with the ground

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10880 on: February 19, 2012, 10:13:08 PM »
The big question is also, if the brass and steel disc are electrically still connected to the asix steel shaft
or not.

Let us assume that the magnetic A-Field is inducing a changing B-field inside the brass coil, so that it wll get an AC
voltage. So this AC voltage is then fed onto the brass and steel disc, but what now ?
How does this voltage get shorted to produce any flowing current so the current can cause any torque forces ?
Where is the B-Field to repell these forces so it gets a rotational force ??

Very strange...

Regards, Stefan.

Torque force are not caused by currents in this device - it is caused by Gravitational field - there is one thing "You will look, but don't see or understand"
* There is not going currents to these discs, but impulses.

How it is working:
Impulses from toroid transformer are distributed to metal shaft, Little coil between both discs catch these impulses and provide it to both discs.
BUT - before these electric pulses are going to toroid transformer (they are produced in certain way - that they already have Gravitational effect. these electric impulses are not ordinary pulses who have usual magnetic characteristics!


i like to repeat - don't try to find answers in physics books.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10881 on: February 19, 2012, 10:51:10 PM »
The last TEN posts or so are BLIND to the elephant in the room! ONLY Stefan noticed the extra power is already coming from the metal box and is able to light the lamps WITHOUT the motor!!


SO why are you trying to work out how the motor works its really not important and most likely NOT OU. Effective yes perhaps but not OU otherwise no need for the "secret box"  I say its just efficient  ok fine but any standard 3 phase motor working in Rotoverter mode here can be a 99.999% efficient  driver. Just clean the bearings, take off the fan and a 5 HP motor motor will run on just 2 watts at full speed!


You may ask why bother with this motor gen config?


1) its looks pretty for investors


2) it shows off his unique motor build prototype (NOT IMPORTANT ONLY A DISTRACTION)


3) it allows for a SMOOTH AC power source from the generator


4) it converts single phase rough supply from kapanadze solid state technology normally only can light lamps to ultra pure sine clean 3 phase using a 3 phase motor as a generator for powering 3 phase factory motors and equipment!


So fast forward to where he builds the early solid state kapanadze and THERE is the answer.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10882 on: February 19, 2012, 10:56:27 PM »
Just a thought. I believe that the Discs are the main propulsion source, but if the coil is inducing current into the metal shaft then the current would also be flowing through those large pillow block bearings (ball bearings) which could also cause rotation.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10883 on: February 20, 2012, 02:39:16 AM »

For the purpose of  analysis only:

1. lets assume that 9v battery is operating only with diode connected in series

2.lets assume that big box  has bank of car batteries inside

3. lets assume that when  TK connects right polarity  rely is operated with it only switching on  internal bank of batters and because of  mechanical squick you can not notice the click But you have rapid motion as if high current is rapidly connected.


4.lets assume that when he reverse voltage than HE ACTIVATE electronic rely
5.That  allow him without the noise of rely to switch inverter to operate light bulb without the motor that is only to amuse you folks.

minute 10:59 TK operates lightbulbs without the motor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUN3GsekKQ


DO NOT CONFUSE YOURSELF WITH TWO VIDEOS THAT LOOKS SIMILAR.

THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE ONE WITH BIG ELECTRICAL MOTOR HAS BIG BOX
AND THE ONE FROM GERMAN TV HAS VERY SHALLOW BUT LONG BASE THAT COULD EASILY FIT BANK OF BATERIES MADE FOR ALARM INDUSTRY  12v/8ah SAY 40 OF THEM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UB12100-S-
12V-10Ah-Home-Alarm-Security-System-Battery-/120587500618?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu
%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%
26pmod%3D360420007571%26ps%3D54


some of them are 12V/ 10AH


6. lets concentrate at German part of video showing  Teflon housing mounted and toroid  placed inside. minute 3:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thvqFhFIfY

7. try to find out how is winded. Count  how many wires are connected to plastic connector and what part of winding on toroid that wires are coming from


8. in both of the videos rotation mechanism based on magnetic flux was done differently

8a. look at the  elevated supports of the brackets
notice that inner part  facing discs might be not made from metal ( covered  with foam)
at video 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUN3GsekKQ



9. from that  work  further .


 


Read that in Wikipedia link says no big voltage needed for  operation of this  type of disc-motor.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homopolar_generator


Original patent of Tesla
http://www.google.com/patents?id=MvdbAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=406968&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=406968&f=true












I do apologize that I made it so quick.
I'm in the middle of scientific session.




Wesley


So WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE FOAM? ??? ??? ??? ???
TO COVER ACCESS DOORS TO COMPARTMENTS


ALSO TO SHOW THAT PART OF FLOOR UNDERNEATH OF COILS IS NOT MADE FROM METAL ALLOWING MAGNETIC FLUX TO PENETRATE


Ok I have got it... when meter was connected to toroid it shows 0V
Two options:
a. this toroid did nothing
b. this toroid was sensing small magnet embedded  to shaft to coordinate pusles by reading only





CONCLUSION:
TARIEL KAPANADZE IS NOT LIAR.
HE HAD AT THAT STAGE OF HIS LIFE AND DEVELOPMENT  NOTHING MORE BUT DONALD SMITH DEVICE...that device was further advanced and perfected till the point of show of Turkey
 
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10884 on: February 20, 2012, 09:01:16 AM »
Anyone else make out the distinct hum at 27:05 in the full video where tk coonects
the battery without motor or panel of lights connected.
 
50 or 60 Hz like the hum from a large transformer.
 
Garry

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10885 on: February 20, 2012, 01:01:38 PM »
So much speculation….so little intelligence applied.

There is no mystery.  Stop speculating and start reading/experimenting.  All of Tesla’s work is easily reproduced.

You are not going to want to hear this.  THERE IS NO OVER UNITY.

Don’t believe me.  Go read and REPRODUCE and you will see.  Don’t get me wrong…these machines are fantastic improvement on efficiency but nothing more.  Don’t let your minds be bamboozled by lack of knowledge.  Electricity and magnetism was once perceived as ‘magic’ or black arts only by people who have no understanding.  You are all embarrassing yourself by lack of knowledge and following internet rumour rather than educating yourself and allowing the facts to prove what is true.

Like I said…don’t believe me…perform the tests and see for yourself.

‘Kapanadze ‘ machine with brass discs is not of his own invention.  Tesla was only one of MANY who tinkered with such a machine.  They have been known as N-Machines (supposed oU but is not), Homopolar dynamo (Faraday version was not as good as Tesla), Acyclic machine, or Unipolar dynamo/generator etc etc.

Faraday always made inefficient devices.  Tesla and others sought to ‘perfect’ the principle of gravity/magnetism/electricity, squeezing every drop of efficiency.  Where Faraday failed with his disc, Tesla improved.  Tesla unipolar gen has weak magnetic fields that cover the entire disc rather than just one portion.  The result is that you can harness more of the field without lenz effect.

Anyway…go read.  All the schematics are available.  Literally SCORES of unipolar dynamos have been patented throughout history.  The link is below.  Build them and you will see none of them can self run.

If you listen carefully to Kapanadze video you can hear the machine running down slowly (from draining batteries).  9 volt battery in hand runs nothing.  Nice misdirection by magician entertainer makes everyone think that the 9 volt is powering device.  9 volt powers nothing but a solenoid which switches on main source from battery.

Kapanadze has never had serious investor because there is nothing to invest in.

CosmoLV ,Free Energy Info and Tito are just sad little people that have discovered this fact but pretend like they have a device "that the world is not ready for yet".  Any excuse to hide the fact that they were wrong and now are just pretenders.

Well I have made some fantastic devices all modelled on Tesla, nature and others...but they are not OU.  I have no problem saying this.  They appear OU and run for days on minimal power...but alas...not self sustaining.

Ask yourselves this.  Just focus on Tesla for a moment....IF...IF he truly had self running machines that could generate more out than in...WHY were some of his last patents focussed on EXTRACTING 'free' energy from atmosphere???????????  IF he had OU technology, there is absolutely no need to build expensive towers/aerials to etc to harvest energy from the atmoshpere!  All you would need is a small hand dynamo to start the process and then your machine would go faster and faster.!!

EV Gray and hubbard 'amplified' by use of radioactive materials. 

Dont hate me...just consider these facts before getting upset.  Unlike many of you I have spent huge $$$$ on experiments and designs.

Good luck

http://dictionary.sensagent.com/list+of+homopolar+generator+patents/en-en/

http://www.google.com/patents?id=TEA_AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10886 on: February 20, 2012, 02:16:32 PM »
So much speculation….so little intelligence applied.

There is no mystery.  Stop speculating and start reading/experimenting.  All of Tesla’s work is easily reproduced.

You are not going to want to hear this.  THERE IS NO OVER UNITY.






I totally disagree with you Sir




If understanding energy gain as energy transfer by means of coupling   is understood as OU.
IF OU is access to added energy by means of opening valve with big pipe of water
than it is not important to us who pays  for water flow... it is important  how much energy we dissipated to turn the valve.,
As long as water flow inside the pipe is not paid energy we have  OU.
We do not pay  for sun, thermal  energy, or energy pf rivers, friction of air, and 45 000 volts difference between ionosphere and earth...


if I give you Sir 2 times your salary or say $5000 than you have  OU = overunity of that amount
if I give you 10 C your OU is 10c
If you want to spend part of your OU and the rest  turn into make more money than you have "TK mechanism." every business want to work by that concept
UNDERSTOOD
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???




Yes  there is no energy from nowhere......... that is true.
  So  for that beginner I would like to advice to educate himself prior to make statement like that above



So sir I respect that you are new to the subject..


But I disagree with statements of you as beginner


One philosophical conclusion you sir should take to consideration


If you have spend 1 million euro just to  prepare for tests of TK
and than it would be proven that this is  hoax ............. wouldn't you SI"R announce
to the all world that  is is hoax?
example:
 many universities have income that come from analyzing technologies  and phenomena, and projects  charging tremendous amount of money. 
There is no build of TK device involved only.
In Turkey there was room made in form of  Faraday cage.Glass Table with glass legs. Scientific team from university, plenty of knowledgeable people, expensive devices , antennas spectrum analyzers..   hardware.


for one  single purpose only.
Get a hold of TK technology and keep it silent ,and possibly  cash it out .. and/ or keep it for the beginning  of big revolution to be one of the first.
Only about 10% of population  of earth is capable of  making that devices for rest of us.




It upsets me when  newcomer is making unreasonable statements


Obviousness of logic is
 TK device works as desired  and whoever was able to get a hold on the secret .. THAN WENT TO TALK TO OIL GAYS HOW MANY MILLIONS/ BILLIONS  THEY THEY WILL PAY FOR SILENCE.




and by announcing  that TK is fake  that investor will make TK mad... they do not want  to upset TK .






If TK gets mad he than will release it to the world...




type word "reasoning" in Wikipedia educate yourself Sir.
By reasoning of philosophy you are able to find that person next to the wall  may
1.give up
2.fight.
3. wait for any change of vectors of force.




3a. knowing that person is  at no much choice that individual will take any approach to defeat or weaken the force.
3b. that person has nothing  to lose
3c. any changer in vectors will be than utilized for benefit of defending party.


4. if than the force was removed  or omitted  the defending party =  manifest "disappointment" based on "freedom of manifestation"


4a. that is a  "benefit of allowance" ( one  country terrorist is another country hero ( Nelson Mandela)




5. That leads TK to give us all the device to prove that he was not fake


Conclusion from point above:
Take your brain at your hands and think before you post. Sir
 





THAT IS WHY THERE  IS NO NEGATION OF TK




Wesley






   


 
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bolt

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10887 on: February 20, 2012, 02:17:02 PM »
@ spikeyvoltageYour argument was credible about the homopolar motor which i agree with  etc UNTIL the point you shunned the rest of Kapanadze work!!  This thread is supposed to be for those that are trying to unlock everything about his solid state devices.


The fact that YOU have never got more out than in  is not evidence OU does not exist.  Plenty of other people have.  Also to  arrive here with only  FIVE  posts of history you automatically appear as the most  non-credible source of information.!!


The real question is if you are such a non believer is what are you doing here?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10888 on: February 20, 2012, 02:52:28 PM »
Весли ! ваш выше пост, с фотографиями и видео где в сюжете кричат (кислота - кислота) указывает на лживость ТК,  но ниже вы опровергаете это, вас не понять (может я не правильно перевёл, поправьте)

Wesley! your above post, with photos and videos in the plot where the scream (acid - acid) indicates the falsity of the TC, but below you will refute this, you do not understand (I could not properly translated, correct)

stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10889 on: February 20, 2012, 03:18:13 PM »
Весли ! ваш выше пост, с фотографиями и видео где в сюжете кричат (кислота - кислота) указывает на лживость ТК,  но ниже вы опровергаете это, вас не понять (может я не правильно перевёл, поправьте)

Wesley! your above post, with photos and videos in the plot where the scream (acid - acid) indicates the falsity of the TC, but below you will refute this, you do not understand (I could not properly translated, correct)




NO  IT IS NOT INDICATING ANYTHING MORE BUT  TRICK OF TK TO ELEVATE ATTENTION OF PUBLIC USING TRICKS
TK was  with no money and under pressure of loans = ,and/or, expectations
He had to do anything to gain popularity.


So what .........................
Wouldn't you try to get attention to gain money knowing that your device needs  to be  perfected as of yet?


At that time he was not ready yet that's all.


statement:
1.TK is not a fake.


2.TK used tricks to amuse others


2a. all of the products in the world  may show the same mechanism..
big beautiful box for something  inside that cost very little, is made in China, and has designer name on it.




conclusion: you do not  have  to much problem  with   these products because any individual  your perception might be
-trained,
-or brain washed ,
-or  manipulated by obviousness.


uncommon factors exposure is the key to popularity
 endorsement by recognized factors and/or individuals and/or entities works as elevating platform
for member of society and for phenomena of interest.


 






Wesley
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