@ Core
You said

Ok read that paragraph again. Tesla is claiming OU. He states that with a 1 kilowatt generator he can produce 5kw of power.

YOU should read it again.    He states that with a 1 kilowatt generator he can produce 5000 kw of power.

Also, I have owned Tesla's book of patents for over twenty years, the book of his deposition for the patent fight, and read all of his books that I could lay my hands on since the fifth grade of elementary school. The most intriguing part of all  is the point referenced above. Is Tesla saying?

1. I can produce the 5000 kilo watts from 1 kilo watt input for the same amount of time and thus create overunity. That is, I input 1 kw for one hour and output 5000 kw for the same one hour. A gain of 5000!!!

or

2. I can produce the 5000 kilo watts from 1 kilo watt input for a proportional amount of time and thus create unity. That is, I input 1 kw for one hour and output 5000 kw for [one hour / 5000] or  .72 seconds
           Said another way... A flash bulb will blind you for a long time although the total light output per hour is tiny.

My hope is that number three choice is valid.

3. By using the 5000 kw effect some material will exhibit an effect that will let us obtain free energy. Such as a core being aligned by a super pulse of tiny total energy (5000 kw for an instant) that resumes it's old alignment and creates our much larger current for us.

If I modify my car alternator to produce 5000 times the energy that it does now, it would melt and I think Tesla would have noticed his equipment melting. So I think he was pointing to magical effects created by a huge pulse of a very short duration.

Garry

@Garry,

  Your asking me to read it again because your speculations don't fall inline with my words? Simply because you have 'owned Tesla's book of patents for over twenty years' makes you an authoritative figure on the subject?

Since you are such a 'Grand Master' of Tesla you most likely already built a 'Impulse Generator' to Tesla's spec's. Could you answer the following questions.

How are you powering your Tesla coils?
Could you please share your drawings of your Impulse Generator?
How exactly are you breaking the wave at the peak?
What timing device are you using?
Are you using 60hz or 300 c.p.s. input wave?
Is it mechanical, as in the patents?

I'm sure with your 20 years of research you must have the best 'impulse generator' going. I look forward to reviewing your work. My 2 months of research pale in comparison to your 20 years.

I eagerly await your reply.

Respectfully,

Core

  don't play bad games

core is right and here is the essential explanation by Tesla what he was doing :

"The radio men who came after me had the problem before them of making a bell sound, and they immersed it in mercury.  Now, you know mercury is heavy.  When they struck their bell, the mercury did not permit it to vibrate long because it took away all the energy.  I put my bell in a vacuum and make it vibrate for hours.  I have designed circuits in connection with an enterprise in 1898 for transmission of energy which, once started, would vibrate three years, and even after that the oscillations could still be detected.  Professor Wein's theory is very beautiful, but it really has no practical meaning.  It will become useless as soon as the inefficient apparatus of the day, with antennae that radiate energy rapidly, [are] replaced by a scientifically designed oscillator which does not give out energy except when it gets up to a tremendous electromagnetic momentum."

So!?  He took 1kW impulse and make it vibrate for a long time without much losses and each period of oscillation  created an ambient response or roughly 1kW, that accumulated because of incoming SYNCHRONIZED impulses generating continuous oscillation.That obvious if you read another excerpt:

"Then I had a sensibly damped wave because at that time I still was laboring under the same difficulties as some do this day—I had not learned how to produce a circuit which would give me, with very few fundamental impulses,  a perfectly continuous wave.  That came with the perfection of the devices.  When I came to my experiments in Colorado, I could take my apparatus like that and get a continuous or undamped wave, almost without exception, between individual discharges. "

and another one:

"This is one of most beautiful things ever produced in the way of apparatus: I take a generator of any kind.  With the generator I charge a condenser.  Then I discharge the condenser under conditions which result in the production of vibrations.  Now, it was known since Lord Kelvin that the condenser discharge would give this vibration, but I perfected my apparatus to such a degree that it became an instrument utilizable in the arts, in a much broader way than Lord Kelvin had contemplated as possible.  In fact, years afterwards when Lord Kelvin honored me by presenting to the British Association one of my oscillators of a perfected form, he said that it was "a wonderful development and destined to be of great importance." "

Hey Core,

not mad so far my friend. Now you said it, i remember. I was confused by Cosmo's experimental setup and that's the reason i asked you to redo the experiment.
Sorry about that. Its a nice experiment but of nothing new.

Yes, the HV charging a cap to a voltage level and then breaking the SG giving a series of electrical vibrations is standard Tesla method.
No, i am the one who constantly criticize people for claiming OU in every single occasion witout it to be.

And yes, reading is fundamental but when comes to Tesla methods, it has not been added anything since a century and i have read enough materials to formulate an opinion of what is going on regarding HF transformers.
Perhaps you will enlightens the rest of us

see you 

Sort of helps us now understand what cosmo is saying.

You think so? I don't.

Ferrite is interesting stuff. Has some great high frequency properties, and that is why it is used throughout the electronics industry. That is a far, far cry from using ferrite for free energy however. I have done dozens of similar experiments with ferrite rods over the last year or so, but in no case have I ever seen more out than in. And even Cosmo claimed that his proposed experiment was not OU, just an exploration of ferrite's saturation behavior.

Which is to suggest that barring SR publishing his schematic, which he clearly does not plan to do, Cosmo has led us down a road of playing with a material that has widespread use in conventional electronics and which is well understood by the mainstream. It really doesn't seem all that useful.

I really want to be wrong...

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I pointed out that Tesla claimed 5000 KiloWatts from a source of 1 KiloWatt.
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Reference ?

@exnihiloest
Quote from: iflewmyown on November 15, 2010, 05:23:31 PM
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I pointed out that Tesla claimed 5000 KiloWatts from a source of 1 KiloWatt.
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Reference ?
To understand that sentence you have to read starting at... Reply #4535

This come from a quote Tesla said in 1922 in New York, in a Law office (talking to his attorney) about various patents of his and descriptions.
By the way, power and energy are two different things.
Even though with different power levels you achieve different effects as forces developed are tremendous (e.g explosives that can tear down a rock), when it comes down to energy it does not make any difference.

I can charge a cap, from a 10w source and achieve activities (upon discharge) in the order of 1Kw. This is extra energy? No it is not. just spontaneous release of accumulated energy.
One joule release in 10 sec cannot warm you more that one joule released in 1 nanosec. But it surely will rip any equipment you have in the vicinity.

So, bottom line?

We use that short burst of accumulated energy in a way to shake something, maybe a coil?
Or we break it somewhere in between? Maybe its doing something to the ferrite...

bottom line:
I don't know