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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16552364 times)

LtBolo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4545 on: November 17, 2010, 01:52:04 AM »
Tesla's famous "1 watt for 1 second vs 1 billion watts for 1 billionth of a second". The only difference? Speed.

When playing with the Tesla hairpin, I was struck by how incredibly different the capacitive and inductive discharges are. Of course the big difference is the speed of the discharge and, hence, the acceleration/deceleration of electrons. I am starting to conclude that the missing element in free energy is that the energy is not in the form we are expecting. Both of the previous examples are obviously 1 Joule, but the second one will be dumping huge amounts of photon/radiant energy due to the extreme electron accelerations. Nowhere in the electrical equations do we ever consider/account for the photon energy that is clearly part of the quantum mechanics world and is clearly being produced when we discharge a cap through a spark gap.

Since light energy, x rays, gamma rays, etc., all have super high energy levels, if you can figure out how to convert that energy into usable power, you've solved the problem.

Yeah, I know..."all ya' gotta do is"... <grin>

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4546 on: November 17, 2010, 10:24:30 AM »
yeah, shake it baby!
to make vibrations we need sudden discharge abruptly stopped and a mass which we want to vibrate
.....or field.... ?  ::)

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« Reply #4547 on: November 17, 2010, 07:39:56 PM »
That's bizarre, his first post ends up on the wrong thread. On top of that what does the 'magnet motor' have to do with what he is quoting?   

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« Reply #4548 on: November 17, 2010, 11:28:42 PM »
That's bizarre, his first post ends up on the wrong thread. On top of that what does the 'magnet motor' have to do with what he is quoting?   

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Core

I thought the same thing.
But i figured if I ignored it, it would just go away.  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4549 on: November 18, 2010, 12:29:45 AM »
I thought the same thing.
But i figured if I ignored it, it would just go away.  ;D

DonL

   Yea maybe I should but the last time the thread stalled someone made a statement regarding SR. I don't recall the exact words but something like "Sr just mixes high voltage with low voltage that's it". That was there 1st post and they have never returned.

   Here we have another situation where Cosmo has disappeared again. Some new person jumps in quoting a comment from 2009. On top of that the question he asks has nothing to do with the quote. Take a good look at the quote maybe I'm reading into it to much but Tariel's 100Kw unit, in the video, is about 18" off the ground. Why that quote?

   There are a lot of things that make no sense. For example this thread is titled 'Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze' but we are asked to experiment and replicate SR's device? Ironically when Cosmo talks about operation he frequently speaks of Tariels device but never of his own or Sr's. As an example he stated "Tariel has longitudinal waves in his ground wire" He did not metion his device or SR device has it just Tariel.

   There is a lot of strange activity that goes on. It's become clear to me, based on his own words, that he has some animosity towards Americans. I almost want to believe that his job is to 'stall' people.

    As an example member Madsatbg stated he was building a 'rotary gap system' to better understand . Cosmo responds by saying "this is not for Free Energy, high interruption per second is for different effects - Tariel not telling all (think why?) but he not want to open a secret. don't focus on that so mutch "
    If Madsatbg believes that a 'spark gap' is a key component to the system why would you try to derail him? Do you see how he tells people not to go in that direction but I will not tell you the direction.  ???

   Anyway going back to the bizarre quote. The simple fact that the grammar is so poor tells me he must be American.......... I say that facetiously.

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Core
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4550 on: November 18, 2010, 01:43:40 AM »
http://www.rexresearch.com/prentice/prentice.htm
original patent from sept, 18, 1923 by Frank Wyatt Prentice, my coil resonated at the exact frequency of 500 khz, i didnt know this patent before, now i know why 500 khz is a harmonics that i have experienced too.

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« Reply #4551 on: November 18, 2010, 02:07:46 AM »
I believe this was posted here back when Clinton was president, found it on another site and re-posting it. Clearly very similar to what has been spoken but with a little more detail.

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I haven’t experimented with ferrite cups, however, a ferrite rod turns into a permanent magnet quite easy: bring a small magnet to one end and apply HV impulses (pulse) to a coil  (150 windings of ПЭЛ-0.35) wound around the core. The remanent magnetization is evident: tangibly attracts a screw driver (well, not a Neodymium but nevertheless). It’s preserved for a long time – I checked it after two days – still there. A ferromagnetic material which is magnetized in this way can be returned in its initial state (demagnetized) by again applying a HV impulse to the coil without this time bringing a permanent magnet or by causing a reversal of poles by bringing the magnet to the other end. This has been checked personally, practically, more than once.

OK, then wind on a piece of ferrite a two-step autogenerator with an inductive primary coil (it will readily set itself in resonance in different situations) … also another small coil on this core – which we will connect to the primary high-voltage transformer (no diodes, no constant current) … Then, on top of this transformer we’ll place an inductor in the form of a thick copper tube … And we’ll apply HV to that inductor through a meager discharger (inductor should be placed over the coil on the correct side so that it won’t coincide in phase with the autogenerator) …

What did we get … Here’s what we got – autogenerator, by its coil, magnetizes the ferrite in the necessary direction – and here, the discharger  KA-BOOM into the inductor (with the correct direction, naturally) – and the ferrite OOPS has become a S-N magnet (at that we spent almost nothing to achieve it) … now the autogen has chased the impulse in the other direction – and here, the discharger KA-BOOM into the inductor … causing the MAGNET to re-magnetize into N-S … and that’s how it goes cyclically (no discharges would be seen, only a silent ARC … well, at least this is how it appears)

And here we’d like to obtain 50 Hz and not 500-900kHz … we take the HV transformer (we att 50Hz to the frequency of the autogenerator) … that is, every KA-BOOM of the discharger will be different in amplitude … At the output there will be a miracle slapping at 50Hz

Oh, well! There’s also one more question how is to utilize this? – well, correct – we can’t wind on top, a pile of harmful phenomena for us! .. While it’s need that we glue small circles in a column – and wind on them .. while we take of  the load by the Zatzarinski method – with his degenerate transformer (however, without that copper winding) … and just squeeze a thicker copper through the ferrites.

Here’s an immediate question – where can the necessary quantity of free charges be found in copper to supply 5kW. What do we need ground for? (yes, any massive piece of iron; we’ll just push them here and there, won’t take them away forever) …

This Kapanadze called – autoresonance of the primary and the secondary …

And, do you know what the magnetic field must be created – so that the ferrite becomes a magnet without further application of external magnetic field? A rod of 8mm diameter and 2cm length needs on the order of approx. 500W !!!

And when spark is applied only 1W is needed.

The main idea is that we initiate the process from without the toroid (the column of rings) – while we take off the load inside the toroid … And that isn’t Zatzaricin any more … we throw out that copper winding … in our case the role of output coil is taken by that thicker cable squeezed through the rings …

Without 5Hz – ground isn’t necessary … there are enough free charges in the copper to spread HF … you’ll have enough lamps as load (they shine normally at HF) … and to make it self-sustaining NF needs to be rectified through diodes and decrease …

You don’t at all want to accept the fact that magnetic field of the inductors and the magnetic field of the autogenerator coils have to be strictly synchronized … that is, the mutual influence in TAM transformer, on the contrary, is the reverse … this is exactly what SR wanted to tell you with his transformer experiment (applying HV) – so, when the frequency of the discharger coincides in phase somehow with the frequency of the transformer + the domains of the transformer – that’s when the lamp begins to shine brighter.

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Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4552 on: November 18, 2010, 02:48:22 AM »
I believe this was posted here back when Clinton was president, found it on another site and re-posting it. Clearly very similar to what has been spoken but with a little more detail.

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Core

Any idea who this "toptamburg" fellow was? Seemed to have some direct inside information.

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« Reply #4553 on: November 18, 2010, 03:05:00 AM »
Any idea who this "toptamburg" fellow was? Seemed to have some direct inside information.

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I have no idea. Maybe just another mysterious person with the 'one post and out' routine. I had no idea that his name was 'toptamburg'. Cosmo did show us a picture of a coil in his ferrite this person talk about that. Cosmo also spoke about magnetizing the ferrite. This guy said the same thing.

The last three paragraphs are interesting, sounds like A/C voltage used for spark gap, feeds a coil then feeds a full wave bridge as a 'feedback' circuit. Maybe this post will help.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4554 on: November 18, 2010, 03:17:44 AM »
Would a 'two-step autogenerator' be just a basic primary/secondary setup? any idea's. Also sounds like there is just a straight high voltage coil wrapped around the ferrite.

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« Reply #4555 on: November 18, 2010, 04:30:08 AM »
Would a 'two-step autogenerator' be just a basic primary/secondary setup? any idea's. Also sounds like there is just a straight high voltage coil wrapped around the ferrite.

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Core

I was considering that "autogenerator", might be the same as "auto-transformer". "Two-step" might be referring to two layers.

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« Reply #4556 on: November 18, 2010, 06:07:18 AM »
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What did we get … Here’s what we got – autogenerator, by its coil, magnetizes the ferrite in the necessary direction – and here, the discharger  KA-BOOM into the inductor (with the correct direction, naturally) – and the ferrite OOPS has become a S-N magnet (at that we spent almost nothing to achieve it) … now the autogen has chased the impulse in the other direction – and here, the discharger KA-BOOM into the inductor … causing the MAGNET to re-magnetize into N-S … and that’s how it goes cyclically (no discharges would be seen, only a silent ARC … well, at least this is how it appears)

this clearly states an AC HV source..

autogenerator: just found this by googling...
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3582-r-adams-secret-radiant-autogenerator-coil.html

and another thing I have been noticing:
almost ALL videos shown on youtube regarding free energy are BLURRY.. can't they get a descent camera to video it?

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« Reply #4557 on: November 18, 2010, 06:54:58 AM »
@core

How long have you been sitting on this.

I hope this is the kickstart we need.

Thanks

Penno

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« Reply #4558 on: November 18, 2010, 09:45:51 AM »
This come from a quote Tesla said in 1922 in New York, in a Law office (talking to his attorney) about various patents of his and descriptions.
By the way, power and energy are two different things.
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I can charge a cap, from a 10w source and achieve activities (upon discharge) in the order of 1Kw. This is extra energy? No it is not. just spontaneous release of accumulated energy.
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I agree. Especially in resonant systems, energy from a low power source is accumulated at each period and can be recovered in a short time in one shot, giving a big power but same energy.
Of course a power of 1KW during 5000 s is equivalent to a power of 5000KW during 1 s from the viewpoint of energy, it is a truism.
So a statement like "Tesla claimed 5000 KiloWatts from a source of 1 KiloWatt" is fallacious when time is not the same for the input as for the output and it is not specified, because we assume the power is available during the same time.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #4559 on: November 18, 2010, 11:46:16 AM »
@Madsatbg,

I notice our wonderful experimenter, mopozco on you tube, has replicated your
neutral magnet experiment.

I am getting much better results now, understanding somethings from core's post earlier.

Currently able to just light a 12v lamp but finding I need to change winds in the first coil.

I am using ferrite toroids and three windings.

Regards, Penno

p.s. thanks core