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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16546659 times)

Jimboot

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7920 on: October 23, 2011, 05:58:24 AM »
I advise you to read from 500 ..
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http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7679.0;attach=56322
 This scheme is necessary to exchange the wrong Q1 Q2
Leo48
@leo thanks! Just finished.

electricme

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7921 on: October 23, 2011, 06:29:17 AM »
Someone suggested using a old ignition coil to get some High Voltage.
Below are 2 photos of a coil pulldown I did in July 2009.

I used a vice to hold the coil, and hacksawed around the aluminium cylinder very close to the insulated tower.
I managed to save the oil in a container, although residual oil did make it a bit messy.

It turned out the HV wire coil (secondary) was the coil closest to the iron laminations, the very 1st turn of the coil (during manufacture) was attatched to the iron core which in turn would have made contact to the bottom of the insulated tower.
The last turn was connected to the beginning of the wind of the Primary coil, the end of the primary going to the attatchment terminal as seen in the photo.

The primary just slid over the secondary, it came apart very easy, I was rather surprised just how small the main section was.
 

Magluvin

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7922 on: October 23, 2011, 06:53:54 AM »
Hey electric

Is that a laminated core?

I wonder if it works just as well outside of the can?  ;]

Mags

xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7923 on: October 23, 2011, 08:23:19 AM »
Sorry if this is not correctly translated .
A potential of 24 Volts is sent through 2 Base Emitter Diodes that would normally have a Voltage across 0,7 each , resulting in a much to high base current.
I meant to say shorting the poles of a battery or power supply, with almost no resistance.

eroneous information posted, that's why removed.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 08:11:46 PM by xenomorphlabs »

AbbaRue

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7924 on: October 23, 2011, 08:27:41 AM »
I must have missed something somewhere.
I still don't know which windings are supposed to be caduceus coils.
I thought the transformer after the tuning capacitor was a step down transformer.
In the closeup photo he shows the coil made of 5 strands of 2mm as being wound as a caduceus coil.
Is that the secondary for the transformer at the tuning capacitor?
Could someone please clarify this.  Which windings are caduceus coils?   
How many caduceus coils are used in this build? It sounds like there is more then one.

xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7925 on: October 23, 2011, 08:32:28 AM »
I must have missed something somewhere.
I still don't know which windings are supposed to be caduceus coils.
I thought the transformer after the tuning capacitor was a step down transformer.
In the closeup photo he shows the coil made of 5 strands of 2mm as being wound as a caduceus coil.
Is that the secondary for the transformer at the tuning capacitor?
Could someone please clarify this.  Which windings are caduceus coils?   
How many caduceus coils are used in this build? It sounds like there is more then one.

Caduceus is the primary of TR3.

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7926 on: October 23, 2011, 10:09:59 AM »
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You are wrong. Install Spice and learn for yourself.
In the original schematic T-1000 used 2 resistors with values he did not bother to specify as a voltage divider. For the sake of simplicity i did not include these resistors, but even without them there is NO short circuit in the schematic.
If there was i could not even measure the base voltage (see attachment) -> Equipotentials.
It is beyond me how you come to the conclusion there could be a short-circuit. It's transistor 101 ...


Xeno, the man is correct. There is a short on this topology. You cannot have a PNP-NPN joined base transistor topology with the PNP's emiiter connected to possitive potential (+12v eg). This simple.

As far as the resistors initially shown in T-1000 topology is for reverse biasing transistors bases thus having firmer open-shut times (its a common darlighton transistor arrangement) but in this dual pair, i doubt if there is any gain.

Again, in initial T-1000 schematic, a pair of resistors is missing or the signal transistors will be blown out due to no current restriction flown from them to power transistor's bases.

:P
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 11:09:16 AM by baroutologos »

energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7927 on: October 23, 2011, 12:07:28 PM »

Very Nice!  They have a 30kv that looks very similar to the one used in the vid.  $59

Mags

these are ripoff..... making your own costs nearly nothing if you have spare parts...  spending all your money is not the way.
In Teslas time there were no fancy internet ordering, if you make your own, you will understand all mechanism better. brain evolves through making.. experiencing what did go wrong, and how to do it next time...   this is my advice.

also when you wind your own you have better chance to tune it to required frequency..  you can make several output pins from secondary to tune attach required capacitor.
here is another flyback transformer that i have, it is very small and came out of a laptop screen. it works more than good
and just to show you how easy again to make your own, its just 6 secondaries  with 1 primary,  dead simple

i want to help you
i dont understand why would you spend $59 , and having the same characteristic as the 1 you were making, is this the american way?
think...

Also here is a website showing you how to make your own High voltage capacitors ,
http://www.sentex.net/~mec1995/circ/hv/hvcap/hvcap.html

 i have made several high voltage capacitors, it can be easily adjusted to the required pf range or nf range with a multimeter.
dont even need to spend a fortune on capacitors, i know its much easier to buy, but you will never learn that way. all experience counts when making such tuned device.  many people i know buy things then they get bored or something like that, and because they say to theirselves i can not do it they just stop.
usually people who make all their own who suceed because they understand construction and logic behind adjustments.
experiecne comes from doing not from buying once again.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 12:32:25 PM by energia9 »

Mannix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7928 on: October 23, 2011, 01:52:10 PM »
Nice job!

I hope to make my own as well one day and incorporate it into the device as a whole...later.
After I have tested the circuit and coil topology using the a flyback out of a television set like the guys who
are sharing the anomoly with us .

I think we owe them the respect to follow  as close as possible acording to the info supplied.

The trouble is that if your home made version, works so many people will have so much more trouble replicating than they have already.

What if it works better and you dont know if it is something different about your coils? , your caps?, your location? etc.

A tv flyback is made with all the right wire , insulation, winding isolation, etc .

A high voltage burn thru is more likely unless the windings are layered with extreme precision.

But I do like your attitude and your work looks  excellent.


 

energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7929 on: October 23, 2011, 03:22:48 PM »
Nice job!

I hope to make my own as well one day and incorporate it into the device as a whole...later.
After I have tested the circuit and coil topology using the a flyback out of a television set like the guys who
are sharing the anomoly with us .

I think we owe them the respect to follow  as close as possible acording to the info supplied.

The trouble is that if your home made version, works so many people will have so much more trouble replicating than they have already.

What if it works better and you dont know if it is something different about your coils? , your caps?, your location? etc.

A tv flyback is made with all the right wire , insulation, winding isolation, etc .

A high voltage burn thru is more likely unless the windings are layered with extreme precision.

But I do like your attitude and your work looks  excellent.


 
you can get proper insulation material out of unwanted, damaged electrolytic capacitors, carefully dissasembling a bigger capacitor will have paper sunk into hydraulic oil, it is the best insulation, after all you finished layering up wire and oil paper, then you sunk secondary into wax.

xenomorphlabs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7930 on: October 23, 2011, 08:00:56 PM »

Xeno, the man is correct. There is a short on this topology. You cannot have a PNP-NPN joined base transistor topology with the PNP's emiiter connected to possitive potential (+12v eg). This simple.

As far as the resistors initially shown in T-1000 topology is for reverse biasing transistors bases thus having firmer open-shut times (its a common darlighton transistor arrangement) but in this dual pair, i doubt if there is any gain.

Again, in initial T-1000 schematic, a pair of resistors is missing or the signal transistors will be blown out due to no current restriction flown from them to power transistor's bases.

:P

Baroutologos, in that case i apologize to TheCell, the mistake is then on my side.
Thing is that it simulates without indication of a short, but everything that i have
not built myself like this case, i cannot know if it works outside of the simulator in particular in regards to gain.
The inverters that i usually build have the emitters of the first pair connected to the bases of the second pair which is pretty common.
Plus i had to assume that T-1000's schematic is valid, because his circuit does the job for him and he did not object to the new schematic.
So the question remains, how does the transistor driver in their circuit really look like? :)
Maybe gain is not useful here, because even if the driver voltage would only be 4.5 Volt RMS, the primary coil has a resistance of 0.1 milliOhm ...
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 08:49:46 PM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7931 on: October 23, 2011, 08:17:20 PM »
@e2matrix
That second part is the voltage multiplier.  I would hang on to that, they are hard to find.
Most flybacks today have the multiplier built in to the same case, so you can't get it out.
You have the perfect flyback for this project, because that one should put out AC before the multiplier,
so you can connect the AV Plug directly to it.
AbbaRue,  Thanks for that info.  I had a feeling this would be a useful thing to keep and also thought that might be a voltage multiplier or final step up transformer.  Now if I can just figure out the pin out on the flyback I'll get a start on this. 

energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7932 on: October 23, 2011, 08:25:45 PM »
Cut out core, 1st wind is done.

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7933 on: October 23, 2011, 08:58:41 PM »
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Baroutologos, in that case i apologize to TheCell, the mistake is then on my side.
Thing is that it simulates without indication of a short, but everything that i have
not built myself like this case, i cannot know if it works outside of the simulator in particular in regards to gain.
The inverters that i usually build have the emitters of the first pair connected to the bases of the second pair which is pretty common.
Plus i had to assume that T-1000's schematic is valid, because his circuit does the job for him and he did not object to the new schematic.
So the question remains, how does the transistor driver in their circuit really look like? :)

I do not want to play it smart ass, just know it from experience. You can breadboard it easily and see.

We can have many combos so as to have a darlighton arrangement in driving the power transistors of this inverter
(even though it is a bit of a nice puzzle how this topology can be assembled to work so as eventually to have a pair of PNP and NPN signal transistors bases connected together.)

ps: Personally by far the most efficient, reliable and auto-resonance inverter is made by assembling a Royer osccilator setup. Works splendid but for replication shake do not deviate from original :P

energia9

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7934 on: October 24, 2011, 12:31:54 AM »
Where is Wesley and T-1000?