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Magluvin

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7800 on: October 19, 2011, 03:09:30 AM »
If I may ask.

The caduceus coil.  Does anyone have any info as to what makes it special?

Is it that it has low self induction due to none of the windings being next to each other(other than the crossings)?  Is it the secondary ?

;]

Mags

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7801 on: October 19, 2011, 03:09:30 AM »
@stivep
I understand the primary but not sure about the 2 secondary.
Can you confirm the pictures below or please clarify.

Regards,
Romero

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7802 on: October 19, 2011, 03:39:02 AM »
The proper material is being prepared right now possibly in three dimensional format. Maybe tomorrow if we speed up.. Additional information are being discussed as we speak. If proper tuning is applied than the same elements
may give you range of few KW. 
The first and primary is to understand self resonance of flyback.
I'm doing laboratory  measurements to explain how to do it without the lab.
Material  will be  posted in  traditional to me form as chunk of information but  in addition to that it will be discussed here.  I can not  do everything in one time .. video editing .. I'm not so  good in it.. I'm much better in lab and scientific investigation ...
Please understand..




Wesley

Flyback in my particular example was using 48Khz of self resonant frequency
Do not  cant on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All you have to do is get to the highest possible frequency  with the highes voltage present on  secondary of Flyback
but do not over do it...
This is the hint

Although Arunas   T-1000 suggested that  RAMP SHAPE  is the best ... I did not see difference between square or triangle in regards to sinus at self resonance..

Yes he is right  RAMP  gives you sharp cut out.. that is what we need ...

you may see without oscilloscope many resonance points  but that would be only harmonics...
The catalog resonance frequency for flyback I have is around 17KHz

But if you apply voltage to 100% of length of primary winding...

Depends which wind you use self resonance will be different at the same very  Flyback..
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The biggest amplitude
I have got on square with 50% duty cycle.

remember this thing  can kill so be extra careful

hint: give try of 1V only (from signal generator) and you can measure HV on secondary..!!!!!!!!! with your V meter ... make sure that your V meter works  no not less than  100KHz..!!! If not it  may lie to you..
Pick the highest point and you should be at  resonance point.
No matter what have you give to primary you get sinus at secondary  at resonance..Make sure that amplitude is the same...

NO RINGING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

« Last Edit: October 19, 2011, 04:00:51 AM by stivep »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7803 on: October 19, 2011, 03:51:53 AM »
If I may ask.

The caduceus coil.  Does anyone have any info as to what makes it special?

Is it that it has low self induction due to none of the windings being next to each other(other than the crossings)?  Is it the secondary ?

;]

Mags

You could get a dozen different answers to that question.
Whenever someone tells you an answer, ask for the source ;)
Since most info about the matter comes from non-scientists,
one is as good as the other.
So it all comes down to "believing". 98% of all the info is not sourced
or backed by experiments.
As far as i know there is no
scientific textbook literature on the matter and lots of google-hits
delude you with new age ufo non-sense, anti-gravity, time-travel BS, weather manipulation up to hellraiser effects with devils jumping out of the wall (luckily it ain't that simple) :D

Often you find a crude statement that a caduceus coil has no magnetic field at all.
That might convincingly be true for the segments of the coil where the 2 wires
are apart from each other in a different winding sense.
The interesting area are the crossings.
I tend to "believe" one explanation going like:

Quote
On the top and
bottom where the crossovers are, the fields overlap forming on the
top magnetic vectors orientated in one direction parallel to the
coil axis, and on the bottom vectors of the same magnitude oriented
oppositely to those on top. If we observe the coil from the side we
then see that the consecutive vectors along the coil axis would form
several closed toroidal loops circulating into the ferrite core.

Not to forget the fact that those coils are said to produce scalar "waves" (even though the term is contradictory)
Naudin has actually done some nice documented benchwork on that one.

I am planning to do some iron filing field tests with one, to verify
for myself what is really going on. Without that, you can't be absolutely sure.
Hope that helps you.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7804 on: October 19, 2011, 04:44:08 AM »
@stivep
I understand the primary but not sure about the 2 secondary.
Can you confirm the pictures below or please clarify.

Regards,
Romero

This is quote from T-1000 on a previous page on 10/15/2011:

Secondary:
"5 meters of 2mm diameter for each secondary coil. So the mass of each secondary coil = mass of primary coil.
Start winding secondary’s on top of insulated caduceus coil from the middle of the tube with left hand winding on one and right hand winding on second, wind both at once. After you get coil done, get HF ferrite rod from old radio receiver, put it inside of tube int he middle. After correct tuning it should start heating up, so where ferrite heats up, you need insulation between pieces of ferrite."

"left hand winding on one and right hand winding on second"
Does this mean CCW for first half and CW for second half, joined together in the middle?

DonL


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7805 on: October 19, 2011, 05:11:37 AM »
@ stivep   May God Bless you and your group and TK
Garry

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7806 on: October 19, 2011, 08:54:40 AM »
Is this not a "single cylinder" version of that device?
ALL devices work in the similar way: converting gravity into electricity trough magnetic fields!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7807 on: October 19, 2011, 11:03:35 AM »
Effect of ´electron- or ion-cascade´ is known by special arrangement of conductors, like used e.g. at Testatika. Picture EV AEG 12 shows construction in principle.

Sheets of capacitor are winded spiral. One sheet takes negative charge (red), on surface takes positive charge (blue), between both sheets isolating material is installed (here not drawn). Several of such units are arranged one by one, where each inner end of sheet is connected with outer beginning of next corresponding sheet (here marked by thick black lines).

When discharging that capacitor-cascade, more ´electrons´ exit than originally put into system and ´ionisation´ is detected. Both effects however are only side-appearances, process by itself exclusively is based on pressure of Free Ether onto charges resp. overlaying motion ahead of current. Above this, no normal capacitor (-dipoles) nor isolation are necessary. Much more effect will show naked surfaces or wires (here thus only minus-sheets) which are exposed to Free Ether directly.

Ether is moving by light speed (at its local limited areas) and electric current can also move (approximately) by light speed (apparently ahead). Nevertheless, differences of lengths alongside spiral bended surfaces are important. Layer of charge show basic pattern of motions onto which is impressed overlaying motion-ahead (and synchronously also cross to), both by certain speeds.

At inner side of spiral, distances become shorter and space becomes more narrow, i.e. ether there comes into ´stress-situations´. Resulting of is thicker layer of charges at inner parts of surfaces. Free Ether affects stronger pressure into these thicker balancing areas, i.e. also with accelerating effect. Relative to length of conductor thus current will flow (apparently ahead) faster and faster towards inside of spiral. Alongside bended sheet-surfaces, charge layer will ´slip´ ahead increasingly faster. At round wire-surfaces, motions wind around-ahead correspondingly faster.

At picture EV AEG 13 schematic is drawn such an ´acceleration-cascade´, where conductive wire (red) is winded spiral and its negative charge resp. current runs through three of these truncated cones one by one (A, B and C). At the end of that unit, not ´more electrons´ appear, but charge there is impressed by overlaying motion much stronger and faster into direction ahead.

Within such coil-cones for example is piling up accelerated ´bow-wave´ with corresponding inertia into direction-ahead, however also with corresponding ´suction-effect´ into backward direction. Previous mentioned ´pump-effect´ thus is generated by this conception, now however only by direct affecting pressure of Free Ether onto charge-layer.

So it´s important, Free Ether can affect most free onto charge layers, i.e. these coils should be winded loose. Such units could be build by large scale or several of these coil-cones could be installed within small box, like e.g. sketched at this picture at D by view top-down (four coil-cones at different levels are arranged within box of not-conductive material). This current now should be allowed to ´fall into depression´.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7808 on: October 19, 2011, 11:04:52 AM »
The proper material is being prepared right now possibly in three dimensional format. Maybe tomorrow if we speed up.. Additional information are being discussed as we speak. If proper tuning is applied than the same elements
may give you range of few KW. 
The first and primary is to understand self resonance of flyback.
I'm doing laboratory  measurements to explain how to do it without the lab.
Material  will be  posted in  traditional to me form as chunk of information but  in addition to that it will be discussed here.  I can not  do everything in one time .. video editing .. I'm not so  good in it.. I'm much better in lab and scientific investigation ...
Please understand..




Wesley

Flyback in my particular example was using 48Khz of self resonant frequency
Do not  cant on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All you have to do is get to the highest possible frequency  with the highes voltage present on  secondary of Flyback
but do not over do it...
This is the hint

Although Arunas   T-1000 suggested that  RAMP SHAPE  is the best ... I did not see difference between square or triangle in regards to sinus at self resonance..

Yes he is right  RAMP  gives you sharp cut out.. that is what we need ...

you may see without oscilloscope many resonance points  but that would be only harmonics...
The catalog resonance frequency for flyback I have is around 17KHz

But if you apply voltage to 100% of length of primary winding...

Depends which wind you use self resonance will be different at the same very  Flyback..
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The biggest amplitude
I have got on square with 50% duty cycle.

remember this thing  can kill so be extra careful

hint: give try of 1V only (from signal generator) and you can measure HV on secondary..!!!!!!!!! with your V meter ... make sure that your V meter works  no not less than  100KHz..!!! If not it  may lie to you..
Pick the highest point and you should be at  resonance point.
No matter what have you give to primary you get sinus at secondary  at resonance..Make sure that amplitude is the same...

NO RINGING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have made experiments yesterday, my flybacks absolute resonance is at 31 khz,

I have got a signal generator , i have made an amplifier to it which will give about 6 watts of power at those frequencies, i can set amplitude, offset, waveform, and shape, i should able to figure everything out pretty soon.


i have previously experimented with half wave rectification of one way high voltage. and spark gaps, caps, and at some point i noticed similar phenomenas what wesleys team is describing, at the time i did not give any respect to it, 

Once again a big thank you to wesley and the team,  and also TK!! 

I have also found an easy way for people who dont want to build the flyback driver
GET A PLASMA GLOBE
dissasemble it,  and there you have a flyback inside with driver,  it sends 6 watts of power from 22-31 khz, you can replace resistor and capacitor with different values/
to have different frequencies

  plasma globes even have property of responding to sound waves, they can switch off and pretty FAST with sound waves

Just an idea to share with you

Thank you

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7809 on: October 19, 2011, 02:04:26 PM »
quote author=Mannix link=topic=7679.msg302962#msg302962 date=1318966947]
Is this not a "single cylinder" version of that device?
[/quote]

Hi @Mannix

Hope you are doing well. I don't know but I needed a break from the TPU as I am presently doing TPU tests using iron wire rings with two overcoils that you can see at OUR. I do suspect that the TK device may have some principle to learn that could also help the TPU along. First thing that comes to mind is the cannon analogy.

As for your question, I would say you are half right. It is a single cylinder but dual stroke. The shuffle between the flyback and the TK coil is making the energy shift very confusing for the ether around it, and the ether just has to get in there to make things right and you get this overdrive condition. Actually the TPU could use this strategy also. Y'a man.

"We shall see", said the blind Man.

@stivep1

You are so right. There is no other way. Maybe other inventors will realize this and come forward as well.

Also, stay cool, there is no rush and please do not justify yourself
as you have nothing to prove snce you have done it alreayd

@all

OK, I need some help to make the proper diagram with my exact flyback transformer (Model TF2-4V5-020-LO) that I just removed from a monitor board and my components including the ones that I still need.
I got the image here;
http://www.donberg.ie/catalogue/line_output_transformers/hr_46115.html

The other image is what I have till now. Still need a spark gap (to be placed where the two copper wires meet), the TK coil and the pulse.

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7810 on: October 19, 2011, 02:22:22 PM »
@wattsup:
If you removed the flyback from a monitor and judging from the looks of it being still intact, i guess you haven't removed the HV diodes / kenetron ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7811 on: October 19, 2011, 03:48:00 PM »
link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBpNKSsdqw

Yesterday I have spoken to Tariel Kapanadze by myself..


Please look again there is message in  white box upper side of  the video...
News From TK after reviewing my video...

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






Wesley 
[/glow]


help to Tariel Kapanadze is our duty..
He is sick at home.. I understood that  he was thrown out of hospital.. no money for treatment... I'm waiting for confirmation of the facts..

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm working on it now...
the money has to come to his account  I should  not have anything to do with it......................That means I should be only  helping him establish the path and he should be the only receiver...of funds


We do not need to collect a lot  if he will be  helped in  Georgian hospital... even few dollars   will help per single person wiling to help Tariel..
Do not forget he made it happened...
 
« Last Edit: October 19, 2011, 05:19:01 PM by stivep »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7812 on: October 19, 2011, 04:14:57 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52YBOB4h-IM&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce8FaohsCs8&feature=player_embedded
Железо от трасформатора ТС-150 ТС-270 или подобного(стояли в блоках питания УЛПЦТ советских телеков).
Железо в разобранном состоянии похоже на букву U, берешь любой провод в изоляции,3-10 метров.
Делишь не отрезая пополам, одну половину мотаешь на одину сторону керна,вторую половину на другую сторону керна.
Точно также делаешь вторую половинку U, потом соединяешь вместе.
Вторую обмотку можно сделать меньше или больше,при этом получаешь разную амплитуду сигнала на выходе и другую частоту эффекта.
Обмоток всего две! Но на разных частях керна.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2011, 04:36:33 PM by FreeEnergyInfo »

stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7813 on: October 19, 2011, 04:47:59 PM »
Effect of ´electron- or ion-cascade´ is known by special arrangement of conductors, like used e.g. at Testatika. Picture EV AEG 12 shows construction in principle.

Sheets of capacitor are winded spiral. One sheet takes negative charge (red), on surface takes positive charge (blue), between both sheets isolating material is installed (here not drawn). Several of such units are arranged one by one, where each inner end of sheet is connected with outer beginning of next corresponding sheet (here marked by thick black lines).

When discharging that capacitor-cascade, more ´electrons´ exit than originally put into system and ´ionisation´ is detected. Both effects however are only side-appearances, process by itself exclusively is based on pressure of Free Ether onto charges resp. overlaying motion ahead of current. Above this, no normal capacitor (-dipoles) nor isolation are necessary. Much more effect will show naked surfaces or wires (here thus only minus-sheets) which are exposed to Free Ether directly.

Ether is moving by light speed (at its local limited areas) and electric current can also move (approximately) by light speed (apparently ahead). Nevertheless, differences of lengths alongside spiral bended surfaces are important. Layer of charge show basic pattern of motions onto which is impressed overlaying motion-ahead (and synchronously also cross to), both by certain speeds.

At inner side of spiral, distances become shorter and space becomes more narrow, i.e. ether there comes into ´stress-situations´. Resulting of is thicker layer of charges at inner parts of surfaces. Free Ether affects stronger pressure into these thicker balancing areas, i.e. also with accelerating effect. Relative to length of conductor thus current will flow (apparently ahead) faster and faster towards inside of spiral. Alongside bended sheet-surfaces, charge layer will ´slip´ ahead increasingly faster. At round wire-surfaces, motions wind around-ahead correspondingly faster.

At picture EV AEG 13 schematic is drawn such an ´acceleration-cascade´, where conductive wire (red) is winded spiral and its negative charge resp. current runs through three of these truncated cones one by one (A, B and C). At the end of that unit, not ´more electrons´ appear, but charge there is impressed by overlaying motion much stronger and faster into direction ahead.

Within such coil-cones for example is piling up accelerated ´bow-wave´ with corresponding inertia into direction-ahead, however also with corresponding ´suction-effect´ into backward direction. Previous mentioned ´pump-effect´ thus is generated by this conception, now however only by direct affecting pressure of Free Ether onto charge-layer.

So it´s important, Free Ether can affect most free onto charge layers, i.e. these coils should be winded loose. Such units could be build by large scale or several of these coil-cones could be installed within small box, like e.g. sketched at this picture at D by view top-down (four coil-cones at different levels are arranged within box of not-conductive material). This current now should be allowed to ´fall into depression´.
Fellows  please read it it is important to understand !!!
Thank you my friend



Wesley


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #7814 on: October 19, 2011, 05:03:57 PM »
@stivep1

I don't mind helping TK at all. I checked and there are several Western Union points in Tbilisi that could be used or if TK has a Paypal account we could all send something directly, or, if not, I can use my Paypal to receive and send to him when enough is in. That is not a problem.

If using Western Union or a swift transfer, maybe it will be best for TK to give another name if he cannot go himself to the local office to receive monies, he may ask us to put it under another persons name. But that new name should be confirmed to you by TK only.

wattsup