Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 16552415 times)

baroutologos · « **Reply #4440 on:** November 05, 2010, 05:39:02 PM »

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I disagree. The mechanical version we built was nothing but a coil and a cap. The coil had a variable inductance by way of a rotating core piece. With nothing but a variable inductance you can make big power.

To what exactly are you reffering to? Have you made big power or just speculating ?

ps: By the way, can you post links to the papers you are reffering to? it would be a nice read.

LtBolo · « **Reply #4441 on:** November 05, 2010, 05:43:52 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on November 05, 2010, 05:39:02 PM

To what exactly are you reffering to? Have you made big power or just speculating ?

We built a motor driven device that altered inductance with a rotating core piece. It worked very well. This is not speculation.

The blue trace is current through a 0.5 ohm resistor. The yellow trace is voltage in the resonator. The system peaked out at over 8 amps and 400 vac. We shut it down before it ate itself.

iws1987 · « **Reply #4442 on:** November 05, 2010, 06:45:40 PM »

@LtBolo

Thanks for sharing this very nice proof of concept experiment.

Just in case Hectors replication of the Ecklin generator are unknown to some, here it is. This is also a parametric excitation machine.

Eric

iws1987 · « **Reply #4443 on:** November 05, 2010, 06:48:22 PM »

And here are the test data, I had to split over two posts due to size restriction.

Eric

LtBolo · « **Reply #4444 on:** November 05, 2010, 06:57:13 PM »

I hadn't seen it. Thanks for the info.

In our build, we saw that the load on the rotor was increasing with the power increase, so it was under unity. I see in this data that they claim the rotor stays unloaded. I will study this to try and understand how it works differently than ours did. It was pretty obvious to me that the big WITTS generator used this principle...our unit sounds exactly like theirs when running...but I wasn't sure how the rotor could be unloaded. This is good info.

After years of goofing with this stuff, I think we are finally on the cusp of making some practical devices. Why this stuff isn't in production alludes me, and makes a very string statement about the reality of suppression and/or greed keeping stuff hidden. We just need to get over the human failures and get something built and out to the world...Lord knows we need it.

Coruscant · « **Reply #4445 on:** November 05, 2010, 07:09:18 PM »

Did it run a load or are you just looking at the VAR's as that 400vac at 8amps?

If its VAR's then its nothing till you can extract it to do real work. I can generate that many vars easy with a rotoverter, but I can't make the VARS do work without causing the lenze effect to kick in and draw more current for any "real" used current doing work on the back end of the alternator.

It sorta looks like you used an RV as the driver for the pole piece you were spinning.

Coruscant

penno64 · « **Reply #4446 on:** November 05, 2010, 09:11:06 PM »

Hi Bar,

Your comment that no matter how many turns for the inner coil are inserted into the
main coil, it counts as one.

Does this ring true with the slitted pipe insert shown in the russian youtube.

The one where the guys shows how to construct the core with 5 or 6 toroids and a
slitted tube with wire connected to both ends.

Regards, Penno

iws1987 · « **Reply #4447 on:** November 05, 2010, 09:31:30 PM »

From the intro to the abovementioned paper:

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By using the product effects of electrostrain and displacement-permeability, a composite containing a bar of Pb(Zr,Ti)O3 and two I-shaped ferrites were developed, and its electromagnetic effect was investigated. Under a constant electric field of 5 kV/cm, about 36% of the electric field-controlled permeability and impedance were observed in a considerably wide scope of frequency. The electric-field dependent inductance and impedance of the composite device showed a ferroelectric relaxation behavior. Analysis showed that the degenerating field-dependent permeability was responsible for the electromagnetic effects observed.

I have now tested the Epcos material "N30" (MnZn ferrite) with up to 7kV/cm.

The coil self inductance is constant despite the change of field strength from 0-7kV/cm. :-(

There is still the possibility there is an effect, but not in the frequency range used by my LC-meter.

Have one of you bought the report, so we all can know the frequency properties ?

So the question is whether we can buy a ferrite material suitable for this device.

Anyone who knows the type number of the material used by SR193 ?

Eric

sigma16 · « **Reply #4448 on:** November 05, 2010, 09:38:37 PM »

Quote from: LtBolo on November 05, 2010, 04:09:56 PM

According to Cosmo he built versions that used a ferrite core, as well as others that did not. I have no other confirmation other than Cosmo's word, but he claims to have spoken directly with Kapanadze.

Ask Cosmo to prove the ferrous core. I am certain that it can not work with a ferrous core. It is not a transformer at all.

Cosmo never commented on my picture of the open outer coil on the Kapanadze coil demonstrated in the garden. This open coil proves it is not a transformer.

forest · « **Reply #4449 on:** November 05, 2010, 09:47:43 PM »

Again
Was that video translated to English ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxQ99R4gOWY&p=63547D173F4A047A&playnext=1&index=15

Here you see solution and explanation, why not translate if you know Russian ?

LtBolo · « **Reply #4450 on:** November 05, 2010, 10:00:05 PM »

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Quote from: Coruscant on November 05, 2010, 07:09:18 PM

Did it run a load or are you just looking at the VAR's as that 400vac at 8amps?

It could power as much load as was expected for the current present per 0.5*dL*I². If you consumed more power than was being added per pulse, it would kill it. But yes, the power in the resonator was primarily reactive. I would expect some similarity to the RV, but they are very different beasties.

ramset · « **Reply #4451 on:** November 05, 2010, 10:15:40 PM »

Mr.Ltbolo,
Thank you for the scope shot,and info!
You do seem to have a tiger by the tail!!
Sweet!!
Chet

LtBolo · « **Reply #4452 on:** November 06, 2010, 03:31:52 AM »

Quote from: iws1987 on November 05, 2010, 09:31:30 PM

The coil self inductance is constant despite the change of field strength from 0-7kV/cm. :-(

Yeah, we are having similar results. I saw references in some of the literature to values as high as 18kv/cm, although the paper you referenced was only using 5kv/cm. I suspect that as the permeability of different ferrites is all over the map, so is the electrostatic permeability effect. Our ferrite rings are very high permeability and they are pretty thick. Thinner would obviously be helpful, and I suspect lower permeability may be more responsive as well.

This actually goes a long way toward explaining the varying results that people have had. If you don't start by evaluating exactly what it takes to effect parameter change in your particular core material, building and testing a complete system is pissin' in the wind...

penno64 · « **Reply #4453 on:** November 06, 2010, 05:08:21 AM »

@all,

Instead of trying to create a massive coil, is it not feasible to attempt this experiment on a single
core (toroid).

Would that not mean we could use lesser HV to achieve the magnetic flip.

Doesn't matter if you cannot light a number of 240v bulbs.

Proof of concept !

I think many of us have access to lesser HV sources.

Regards, Penno

baroutologos · « **Reply #4454 on:** November 06, 2010, 06:36:53 AM »

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Hi Bar,

Your comment that no matter how many turns for the inner coil are inserted into the
main coil, it counts as one.

Does this ring true with the slitted pipe insert shown in the russian youtube...
Regards, Penno

Exactly.

@Ltbolo,

It is accustomed to first experience the failure and then the success in experimentation. Regarding ferrites' permeatability alteration by electrostatic strain, in case we achieve that, this would be a milestone in this research.
In case the energy expenditure of the material's magnetic properties alteration is less that the energy it conveys in a system, then we have something.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008ApPhL..93j2503F

Get inspired by this abstract. "This composite is a candidate material for electrically controlled magnetic devices."
In a magnetic circuit, a magnetic "transistor" would meant readily OU.

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