Hi folks,

Its been a bit.  I've not read thru the last 100 or so pages but was curious about the status of the kapanadze replica attempts.   

I've been off on a sidebar sorta exploring darsonval type setup thats been somewhat adjusted to what I've been playing with.   Its a 3 coil setup.   It uses a primary laid out darsonval style, a secondary setup Tesla style and a Tertiary that is placed directly over the primary and is slightly smaller in diameter but the same in turns count as the primary.   

The Tertiary appears to couple magnetically to the secondary and perhaps primary to some degree and it oscillates at high frequency with a few thousand volts on it which let me charge up some relatively small capacitances which discharge thru a spark gap once a threshold is reached (as determined by the tertiaries spark gap).   If I make the gap so big no arc discharges, I see a max voltage accumulate of ~7kv dc.   

What is curious is that the input to this setup is 120vac at 60hz with a current of 600-650mA, for about 60-70watts input.   Its this amount input regardless of if the tertiary is collecting or Not collecting.   The tertiary could be removed and the devices primary still runs on this input power. 

However with the tertiary wired to collect off one end the input still doesn't go up.   The amount collected and the breakover voltage is determined by the combination of the spark gap and the collector capacitance that was selected.   75nF as collector lets me adjust the spark gap for discharges at about 3hz at 1kvdc to much slower say .1 hz (or 1 pulse every 3-5seconds) at 4-5kvdc.   While using some ~230pF has a near constant reading of 3kv in what looks like a constant arc to my eyes.  (I haven't scoped it to find out what freq its running at as I have already burned out 3 scopes and have no funds to buy a 5th.)   

A vid of this setup (shown with the 1uF cap that I've since removed as it wasn't doing anything upon further experimentation) is here on youtube. 

http://www.youtube.com/user/bellerian1?feature=mhum#p/u/0/lLqXmsVi-dM

Its not Kapanadze per say, but it is an offshoot that might provide some other ideas to you folks here on this forum.   

Regards,
Gene

Hi folks,

A vid of this setup (shown with the 1uF cap that I've since removed as it wasn't doing anything upon further experimentation) is here on youtube. 

http://www.youtube.com/user/bellerian1?feature=mhum#p/u/0/lLqXmsVi-dM

Regards,
Gene

Youtube says "channel not available" for the above link.

In the picture i shown the signal generator was still on when the lamp were lit yes, but i could not replicate my own experiment since, this is what im asking, what happened?  the two leads of the signal gen was in my hand and the lamp still burning, in other experiments no such phenomena was found, i disconnected the source and the lamp went off in other experiments,
this is what bothers me,

One time is enough

I have stated in my email to shockac that I have seen it.
I was able to burn 150 W light bulb  using 2.75W
Again only one time.

That triggered all of my investment.
Although  my approach is different form many others I'm not interested with delivery of working device as much as I want to understand why is  it working.

So instead  of trying to recreate that one moment I accomplished  my Lab and now I'm taking  care of mechanical  shop with Lathe  Mill and CNC. That is being done  for the purpose of repeatability of scientific investigation

That is the biggest nightmare see it and than find out that you  have choice run to buy another light bulb ,do not touch anything, and everything is temporary mess on the table?
Or just say  I have seen it I will do it again but with proper measurement and proper mechanics.
So far I did not see anyone being so crazy  as me  investing into a dream of
Ending Definitely the old world money suckers from all of us.

If there is any please let me know.

Wesley

Wesley
Thanks,inspiring!,perhaps an antennae!

I am placing this post here,from Jibness at Energetic mostly because of your post wesley!
The 4th paragraph is unique !

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I was wondering if we could start looking into methods of converting pure static charge into a voltage potential. I didn't think this was possible but it just might be we have been sitting on it the whole time. The spark gap! I think this is the unifying method to convert static potential into real charge that can be used like our voltage in electronics. Of course we would have to separate the capacitor completely from the leyden jar. Although they look like the same concept they are very different.

Leyden jars are designed to hold a static charge inside a statically shielded vessel. This static charge does not behave the same as a Voltage potential does. A static charge clings to a surface. It is merely a thin layer of charge condensed on this surface. Although we can deposit and remove charges via friction it is not necessary to do so to get it to influence other bodies and their charge state. When I say condensed I mean that as a body moves through our space it develops a condensation or attraction of free charges in the ambient environment to move to the body moving through that space via the bodies own charge state when compared to the ambient environment. Whew that was a big statement.

Capacitors work in somewhat the same method but it has more to do with surface area then anything else like room to hold a charge. I believe that the capacitor has an ability to change or rectify the static into real power by raising the base potential value of the plates in a capacitor in effect giving you more punch on the output. In the case of a capacitor the static converter would be the dielectric itself. So in effect this would raise the base value of charge via the dielectric and not the plates. Although the plates can be used to pick up this potential difference, it is converted through the plates contact with the dielectric surface. This capacitance method is only capable of converting small amounts of static but it should be noted that there is a combination that could be used to facilitate a huge difference in the output when capacitors are used in conjunction with spark gaps.

Spark gaps are really only closely placed antennas that can directly interact with the environment to involve more real charges into our systems. These real charges are what we attract to our normally operated electronics and consequently pull into our systems to use as a flow. We have always used these charges and thought we were actually containing these charges within our systems. We have not been containing the charges at all and failed to look outside of our box for the answer. If we started to look at our environment as a seething writhing mass of charges we would understand that we are just focusing and orienting the charges to do our bidding just by either providing or maintaining a potential for the attraction and control of those charges.

Just how hard is it for man to understand that our ancient people knew more about this world because they did not have to know very complex calculations to be able to figure this stuff out. With geometry being the exception to that rule but geometry was all around us so figuring that out wouldn't have been too hard.

Lets look at the Bagdad battery for instance. Most think that these were used as a battery of normal construction but what if they were just merely static leyden jars? The inside was the container for white powdered gold and an oil was used as the dielectric with the pottery being the outside conductor so to speak.

Now this changes the whole premise of what we are looking at.
 

people we are not born here to see that things will not change, we are allways changing, and tomorrow we will laugh on this so why be negative now if we are positive tomorrow?  is this topic about emotions or a device which is capable of helping us through this change?  please observe what i have just said, im into experiments and will post results soon, i can contribute with my help, you can do it too.!
All the best to everyone

 

What did Tesla have at that time? Keely?  Oscilloscopes? Voltmeters? frequency meters? None my friends, all they had is Copper iron wood and experiments, later they had knoweledge because they saw it was true, but we need experiments first then we will have knoweledge, all in order, you dont need fancy equipment to master these things,  but you will need some knowelegde and a good logic pattern. thats it for a while, take care friends

I don't like your attitude.

For you to imply that myself and other members 'Personal time and money spent' experimenting and sharing idea's does not somehow qualify is utter nonsense. Did you not stop to think that maybe it's because the 'old world money suckers' 'is' the reason that you have volumes of money to spend on equipment? 

Get one thing straight 'Time spent researching and experimenting is time away from family' for me, and I'm sure others will agree, that time is priceless! More valuable then the money you blew on equipment.

I felt that your last post here, a few weeks ago, was also condescending but I kept my mouth shut. It appears you are well off financially why not build your lab in Russia? I bet kinda hard to do considering that over 80% of the GDP evolves around energy exporting. Take that away and the country is doomed.   

BTW - The I in your above statement is very telling of you. Maybe it should say WE as in We need to understand why is  it working. got it?


And yes, I like this --> 

Respectfully,

Core

Well Core it is hard to disagree with you in a general sense you are right.
And also the general picture in your imagination looks like  Wesley is loaded with money.

Is it possible that the  picture is different.

Is it possible that your perception drives you to the place that I have never been nor  intend to be?

Is it possible that I meant and stated about myself without  any idea that it would be understood by you this way?

Did you take to consideration that expressing myself in English does not come with the same easiness to me as it is for you?

Did you ever try to say what you said in Russian not cousing mentioned by you controversy?


Everyone can sacrifice his own budged ......People have cars boats I have lab that's all.

The important is why I have lab.!!!!!
And I have explained it many times.


For you I will state:
I respect everyone I do not want to dishonor anyone.
I respond however to personal comments in my own judgement ."m I right?
Is not for me to  say.
Thank you for your attention

RESPOND to this questions can you? I see inconvenience........... 

Wesley

PS:I have wife as well,
and she  is the best I have got.
But she is the one who never said one single word against
my re sarge, my investment,my time dedicated to Free Energy.

Yes I'm fortunate in life for one single reason.
Never had the fight,  disagreement, disappointment from my wife
Never argument or raised  voice.
That is real wealth not the money.If you guys have it year after year and you woke up in the morning without the stress that's all you need.