Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 16604583 times)

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #2625 on:** June 21, 2010, 02:44:15 PM »

@Bruce_TPU: I appreciate that you want to discuss the SR set-up.
Please refer to these very clear diagrams by Andi to understand the origin of each cable

at the coil:

http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=4.msg10791#msg10791
http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=4.msg10917#msg10917
http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=4.msg11517#msg11517

The wire coming from the spark gap is NOT going THROUGH the core, but is wound like a solenoid single layer ON TOP of the core.
The corresponding wire is blue on the left side and orange on the right side.

The wire with the question mark can possibly be one side of the primary of the 220 V transistor .

baroutologos · « **Reply #2626 on:** June 21, 2010, 02:48:31 PM »

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I would suggest to study magnetic viscosity. OU trick is to do action and get out real fast before reaction. In "physics laws" there is said that there will be reaction, of course it will But does law say WHEN? Just COP > 1 can be done without such trickery.

Any evidence that leads to the contrary? Any setup made upon that you say?

wattsup · « **Reply #2627 on:** June 21, 2010, 02:50:01 PM »

Very sorry to interject into your thread here but I have followed this thread on and off.

My only question is, has any of the guys that have a test unit with the grounds already in place every just tried this test as shown below.

I would like to know just if you put the two grounds into the ground and connect them to each side of a coil, like the longest coil in your builds, what will a compass reading show.

Will it be.

No polarities.
North Top and South Bottom
North Bottom and South Top
All North or all South
Center position ?????????

Then just keep the connections the same way and turn the coil so the top coil end is now on the bottom and the bottom end is now on the top. Then do the same readings to see if they have changed in any way.

If anyone had done this test could you please find the post.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Hunch, I am hoping it is all North if the person lives in the Northern Hemisphere.

Keep up the good work.

wattsup

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #2628 on:** June 21, 2010, 03:35:29 PM »

@MrWolf:

Concerning your description on your idea of the Kapandze process.
It is as good as any others, because we all can only speculate.

A critical point in your argument is point 9)

If the transistor pair would be merely used for switching purposes with a comparatively low on-time then the heatsinks AND fan would look a bit overkill.
At least in SRÂ´s set-up. I run about an amp through them (full-time) and they donÂ´t get critically warm.

And where would you see the necessary connections to the 220 Volt transformer?

Besides SR himself has said that they are bipolar powerful NPN and PNP transistors used to form a 50 Hz sinusoid waveform and you can clearly see them connected in the standard push-pull configuration.

The kicking of the ferrite also implies that the domains must relax after being kicked which is difficult to control.
You will find in russian forums that people prefer to excite the domains rather with a frequency in the kilohertz range to bring the ferrite to its resonance.

You will furthermore run into all kinds of bizarre transmutation speculations.
I personally donÂ´t see enough pre-conditions (especially field strength) for this to be even remotely likely.
SR has stated also that he uses HV in the frequency range of 25-35 kHz and most likely uses a fixed-frequency inverter board.

grizli · « **Reply #2629 on:** June 21, 2010, 04:11:11 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on June 21, 2010, 02:24:50 PM

Griz, i have done those experiments. With the Kacher and a metal plate near it and the Zatsarinia single-rod transformer. They are not OU in any case.
e)

They ARE OU... but problem is that KACHER itself is inefficient oscilator: I presume effcienty of KAcher oscilatir is LESS Than 35%

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amperage = capacitance x voltage x frequency x 2 (two times the cap is charged)
amperage = 16/1.000.000.000.000 * 300* 1.000.000 * 2 = almost 10mA

A typical 40 watt (assuming this is 40 watts if not less) at 220 volts to be fully lit requires approx 200 mAs (it is not fully anyway) so according you logic it is impossible to light that lamp. Correct. So something "radiant" must be there?

It is known that Radinth is related to Electrostatic... BY CORE behavour of this setup it behaves STRANGELY.... TC = HI current at the bottom and HV at the top... if you want to wiresly burn ligth bulb you need another TC to collect HV electrostatily and convert it to high current : low turn coil... WE here have ONLY capacitor directly to load...

Now lets see : I read that kacker is about 20-30% eff... and that small TC has low Q... much resistance(akin effect, distributed C etc) .. there you drop half of the energy for sure .... Lets sey that 100W bulb (Russian rutube channel destine) works about 70% eff with only 35-40W of imput power : ADD to that so LOW efficinet kacker + low Q tesla coil + heating of TC (resistance of wire, skin effect atc)
Lacher has NO C.. and can probably behave AS class A amplifier.. in theory it CANT have more than 25% eff.

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WHo told you that the metal plate near the oscillating kachers gets only +300 to -300 capacitative coupled voltage?? You say so because the lamps operates at such nominal mains volatge?

This is quite irrelevant.
Easily the metal plate can reach a couple of thousands volts near the Kacher.

BUT ground one end put plate near TC ... and TELL me HOW can TOP plate be near 100kV(lets say we have 100kV TC in the test)
IT clearly oscilates about +/-200V ant 70% eff...
HOW CAN there be 25kV on that plate of its connected with series with bulb and grounded.. it DEFIES BASIC law of transformation ....
Only radaint energy can do that.. and that has been explain in Tesla patents with elevated plate ... near radinth energy .. etc

SORRY for bad English , and typos

Note to all people here : Stop doing police work and investigating SR.. that way you will NEVER find answer, cause there has been 200 forum pages on Russian forums without success.. my opinion is thats waste of time... probably its easy to start from scratch like KApagen ..

xenomorphlabs · « **Reply #2630 on:** June 21, 2010, 04:21:42 PM »

Quote from: grizli on June 21, 2010, 04:11:11 PM

Note to all people here : Stop doing police work and investigating SR.. that way you find answer, cause there has been 200 forum pages on Russian forums without success.. my opinion is thats waste of time... probably its easy to start from scratch like KApagen ..

/Sarcasm on

Stop investigating Tesla! There has been 500+ books and 300+ forums with dozens of threads of 200+ pages about him WITHOUT SUCCESS.

/Sarcasm off

Just let everybody do what they like to, itÂ´s their decision

stivep · « **Reply #2631 on:** June 21, 2010, 04:57:02 PM »

Quote from: stivep link=topic=7679.msg246068#msg246068 =1277091582

NO WE ARE NOT TRYING TO REPAT KAPANADZE
We are trying to take advantage from everyone who contributed in this field

I have perfect fluency in at least 3 of Eastern European Languages
That gives me access to all of the Slovian root of linguistic similarities.

Isn't that surprising that all of the knowledge in the area of Tesla Invention originated from this part of the world, including Nicolas Tesla by himself ?

The progress in partnership for NO MONEY including our position in this area is as fallow:

1. In Poland Jacek was able to light the light bulb from HV
2. The signal representation in laboratory is investigated in reference to Low Voltage and High Voltage signals.
3. You do not have to geest what is really going on when we finish we are willing to give it up for free.
4. We will welcome everyone opinion in this area
but
I'm very cautioned ( ostrozny) with sharing the progress as SOME OF YOU Gentleman are very much discouraging.I have seen so many very unpleasant attacks have been made from one person to another.And I do not want to experience this by myself.
All of the informations are being published the best way we can express ourself in English and in the form we are willing to present it.!!!!

Behavior of some of you critics or servants of the "power world" has nothing of values I was raised with,
in small country of Poland.

5. The explanation is in Polish but major factors are in English

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A695XSqAdPo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q8r2ikJtZ0

there is another video progressing Free Energy Device wee are working on.

http://www.youtube.com/user/stivep1

Free energy device:
1.test of generating part,
2.sparking part.
3 signal representation from oscilloscope ( analog, digital)
3 spectral analysis from 20Hz to 40MHz
5.comparison of two channels
one with High Voltage Probe
second with lo voltage generating circuit
6 Kenwood 2000 used as frequency response device
7. podsumowanie dedykacja powod i kierunek tych badan.

baroutologos · « **Reply #2632 on:** June 21, 2010, 05:13:18 PM »

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They ARE OU... but problem is that KACHER itself is inefficient oscilator: I presume effcienty of KAcher oscilatir is LESS Than 35%

You presume. Make one or few and see yourself

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It is known that Radinth is related to Electrostatic... BY CORE behavour of this setup it behaves STRANGELY.... TC = HI current at the bottom and HV at the top...

Maybe for you sounds strange that Tesla oscillators have high amperage at bottom and few at top. This is attributed solely to the distributed capacitance of the coil. Increase topload capacitance (in relation to the distributed of the coil) and them almost all current from top to bottom is equal

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if you want to wiresly burn ligth bulb you need another TC to collect HV electrostatily and convert it to high current : low turn coil... WE here have ONLY capacitor directly to load...

I have done it a couple of months ago. One kacher transmiting 2 receiving. All easily explainable and under-OU of course.

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Now lets see : I read that kacker is about 20-30% eff... and that TC has low Q... much resistance(akin effect, distributed C etc) .. there you drop half of the energy for sure .... Lets sey that 100W bulb (Russian rutube channel destine) works about 70% eff with only 35-40W of imput power : ADD to that so LOW efficinet kacker + low Q tesla coil + heating of TC (resistance of wire, skin effect atc)
Kacher has NO C.. and can probably behave AS class A amplifier.. in theory it CANT have more than 25% eff.

I was one of the first to question Destine about his claims. Those are not trustworthy figures. He denied just putting an ammeter and a lamp side by side. Few Russians from time to time will make extraordinary claims, as many people in here do. we would be lucky in those were true. (no such luck yet)
I learnt to make Kachers by Destine's specs. All made by me eat some 100watts and light a 100w bulb to 50-60% efficiency.

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BUT ground one end put plate near TC ... and TELL me HOW can TOP plate be near 100kV(lets say we have 100kV TC in the test)
IT clearly oscilates about +/-200V ant 70% eff...

why clearly? If you have paid closer attemtion, you would have seen the same guy in the has an electrostatic meter which goes crazy approaching the coil. PLATE near coil reaches thousands of volts.

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HOW CAN there be 25kV on that plate of its connected with series with bulb and grounded.. it DEFIES BASIC law of transformation ....
Only radaint energy can do that.. and that has been explained in Tesla patents with elevated plate ... near radiant energy .. etc

Which law? This is not a inductive coupling imo. This is a capacitative coupling and 25Kv is too much. Perhaps 2-3Kv the plate reaches. And it is perfectly possible and works as one capacitor plate the TC and the one the metal plate near it. (Another reason so as not to believe that plate has 16 pf capacitance only).

I am gonna say it to you one more time. Elevated capacitance in Tesla oscilators is for charge storage! (electron storage) It works as a reciprocating pump that pulls-pushes electrons in-out of the earth. Temporarily those sucked out or pushed-in should be stored/supplied by somewhere. this is the function of the elevated capacitance. An "elastic" charge storage medium.

and (according me) the Kapanadze mystery upon this lies.

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SORRY for bad English , and typos

You are welcomed!

grizli · « **Reply #2633 on:** June 21, 2010, 05:19:36 PM »

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on June 21, 2010, 04:21:42 PM

/Sarcasm on

Stop investigating Tesla! There has been 500+ books and 300+ forums with dozens of threads of 200+ pages about him WITHOUT SUCCESS.

/Sarcasm off

Just let everybody do what they like to, itÂ´s their decision

Sarcasm on

Lol.. Tesla DOES NOT need police work.. it just need WORK... TESLA wrote books and made patent .. all is there ... SR made messed up youtube video .. thats all hehe...

grizli · « **Reply #2634 on:** June 21, 2010, 05:29:56 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on June 21, 2010, 05:13:18 PM

You presume. Make one or few and see yourself
Maybe for you sounds strange that Tesla oscillators have high amperage at bottom and few at top. This is attributed solely to the distributed capacitance of the coil. Increase topload capacitance (in relation to the distributed of the coil) and them almost all current from top to bottom is equal

You are welcomed!

He he do i have to repeat : HOW can plate be at 20kV and be in series with 220V bulb grounded in the same time?

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I have done it a couple of months ago. One kacher transmiting 2 receiving. All easily explainable and under-OU of course.

It is maybe easily explainable, BUT of course you did not got OU.. when all things you used of input are inefficinet.. Kacher oscilator.. low Q TC etc etc..

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I was one of the first to question Destine about his claims. Those are not trustworthy figures. He denied just putting an ammeter and a lamp side by side. Few Russians from time to time will make extraordinary claims, as many people in here do. we would be lucky in those were true. (no such luck yet)
I learnt to make Kachers by Destine's specs. All made by me eat some 100watts and light a 100w bulb to 50-60% efficiency

Kacher cant be more than 25% EFF.. add that to TC secondary coil loss.. you see OU

AGAIN HOW can light bulb work at 1mhz when 15pF metal plate required to be at least 25kV(caculate exact values) to burn...

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why clearly? If you have paid closer attemtion, you would have seen the same guy in the has an electrostatic meter which goes crazy approaching the coil. PLATE near coil reaches thousands of volts.

SPACE . or meter than is NOT groundes EASILY REACH thousand volts.... PLATE attachet to 220V bulb CANT REACH THOUSANT volts.. or bulb will burn out !!!

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Perhaps 2-3Kv the plate reaches.

3kV is NOT enough at 1mhz

AGAIN SORRY for repeating : HOW can 220V bulb be attached to metal plate and grouded if metal plate should reach 25kV (guess , not calculated) to burn and 20-30W at 1Mhz....

TheCell · « **Reply #2635 on:** June 21, 2010, 05:34:25 PM »

@baroutologos

Quote from: baroutologos on June 21, 2010, 02:24:50 PM

Griz, i have done those experiments. With the Kacher and a metal plate near it and the Zatsarinia single-rod transformer. They are not OU in any case.

Concelrning the russian youtube video you mention (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbwpie_OtqU&feature=related ) and has been discussed before, There is a capacitative coupling between Kacher's coil and a metal plate that goes to ground via a load. In best case the lamp can be lit at 50-70% efficiency that is fed to coil. (this is how much i have achieved and everydoby else so far. If i am wrong state setups and experience)

You calculate
...................

An 16pf of single terminal capacitance (is that only 16pf??? Note the capacitance of the bulb + wiring till there is added) of the metal plate and you suggest a nominal 200volt to be achieved or a 300+ and 300- at each charge of capacitance cycle and you make the calculations.

amperage = capacitance x voltage x frequency x 2 (two times the cap is charged)
amperage = 16/1.000.000.000.000 * 300* 1.000.000 * 2 = almost 10mA

A typical 40 watt (assuming this is 40 watts if not less) at 220 volts to be fully lit requires approx 200 mAs (it is not fully anyway) so according you logic it is impossible to light that lamp. Correct. So something "radiant" must be there?

...
WHo told you that the metal plate near the oscillating kachers gets only +300 to -300 capacitative coupled voltage?? You say so because the lamps operates at such nominal mains volatge?

This is quite irrelevant.
Easily the metal plate can reach a couple of thousands volts near the Kacher.

@Wolf,

Kapanadze is an achitect. He is not uneducated man. And apparently he is very talented in many aspects.
WHO TOLD YOU, state of the art tech has not OU?
Because you wont find it in the shelf to buy it?

'Zatsarinia single-rod transformer'

How is this transformer wound? (Please picture it)
There is shown in YT that you can measure a voltage at the ends of a copper rod that is located in the middle of the coil.
Did you experience this too ?
This is urgent please answer!

Qwert · « **Reply #2636 on:** June 21, 2010, 06:09:42 PM »

Quote from: TheCell on June 21, 2010, 05:34:25 PM

How is this transformer wound?

Look at the end of this episode, how it is built; there is no wire wound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R1pxae9K9c

TheCell · « **Reply #2637 on:** June 21, 2010, 06:23:58 PM »

@Qwert
This video shows nothing. The coil looks to me like normal wound.
In this russian forum : http://www.offtop.ru/energy/v18_675694_3.php?of781=9df416ca3ab6d006f02272e6e34d6c90
the user Paracelsus describes it how its wound.
Now baroutologos has obviously build one .

Zatsarinia single-rod transformer

dllabarre · « **Reply #2638 on:** June 21, 2010, 07:27:39 PM »

Quote from: Qwert on June 21, 2010, 06:09:42 PM

Look at the end of this episode, how it is built; there is no wire wound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R1pxae9K9c

If you understand Russian please translate: what is the black tube that he inserts into the copper tube?

Qwert · « **Reply #2639 on:** June 21, 2010, 08:04:45 PM »

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Now baroutologos has obviously build one .
Zatsarinia single-rod transformer
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If baroutologos won't answer, try to PM him directly.

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