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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16604319 times)

broli

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2610 on: June 21, 2010, 11:24:17 AM »
Broli and others as well.  Please keep your photos to no larger than 800 x 600 otherwise it messes up the entire page and folks have to then use a scroll bar to read all of the posts.

I have re-sized the photo.  Thanks for posting it just please use the proper sizes.

Thanks,

Bill

Sorry about that. But it should be quite an easy solution to convert any attachment to below 800x600 with some javascript. The image html tag already supports custom resolution for any image.

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2611 on: June 21, 2010, 11:39:21 AM »
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It is not about mystery, it is about making magnetic transistor and controlling big forces with small forces. I have also made purely mechanical magnetic transistors based on the LaFonte Group work.
Wolf,

You refered to magnetic transistors, if such thing existed then an OU device would be a piece of cake after that. As far i know this does not exist. My latest experiments on MEG, that some have proposed the assumption that a small flux (controlling coils) controls a larger flux (PM flux) just holds no true.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4231-bedinis-kromrey-converter-21.html#post99712

What's your experience on magnetic transistors? Can you enlighten me?

EDIT:
Whoever gets in trouble and read my posts and analysis, he will discover that a FORCE that results from a B-flux is exponetially related to the flux that creates it. (closed loop setup)
On the other hand, electricity creation is linear related to the flux that permeats a core over  coil is wound.

Thanks,

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2612 on: June 21, 2010, 12:28:08 PM »
"Will I achieve something extraordinary?
NO I WILL NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The EXTRAORDINARY  was developed by Nikolas Tesla
We are only followers of his dream."

stivep1


It looks like there is allot of money spent on this equipment to prove that Tariel Kapanadze did discover Tesla principles by studying his lectures. I hope I can keep up with you. I speak Polish and live in the USA, I too, am building the Kapanadze device, however I am more practical as to use the experimental methods of building and changing variables on the device.. Let the RACE to discovery begin... I hope to post my Kapagen device videos soon.. Thanks for your "Scientific" aproach... Al …

Also please see post #193 the Pdf file by By Vladimir Utkin u.v@bk.ru, this is one of the most important documents that has surfaced,

"Use additional special “kicking” coil, which can generate short powerful magnetic pulses, and install amplifying Tesla coil along the electrical vector of the E/M field of this coil."

G. Vasilatos, Secrets of clold war technology, chapter 2, states that Tesla discovered that the "staccato pulsing of ONLY a DC current, accelerated the magnetic collapse, causing voltage to be present with no current, the generation of electrons in metals, that where the current component came from, the source of current is the metal as it gives off electrons for power..
And that is what powers all these lamps in the Kapanadze device. What is needed is a large surface area of the grounding rods, an array or multiple grounds, then sheet copper ribbon should be used to connect all grounds, remember you want to capture all the free electrons that are generated.  As to the coil what is shown, the coil produces an-unbalanced DC pulse, in the magnetic field a core of iron will work better than an air core as it concentrates the flux in the center, however due to eddy currents the collapsing field is just too slow for that effect, what is faster is a ceramic iron that will not have any residual magnetism under the the pumping action of the current. This is why the Russians are so fixated on ceramic iron in the Kapanadze device, I have built a center core that is made of Metaglas with a very fast switching speed.

This is also very important..

"Negative mass electrons and negative mass positrons" generation by the "kicking coil" 

When one solves Maxwell's equations for propagating electromagnetic photon energy, the solutions allow for negative energy photons as well as the ordinary positive energy photons. Negative energy photons would be given off by negative energy electrons and that would cause circuits to run cool. That is what is seen with the better free energy devices.

Al...


baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2613 on: June 21, 2010, 12:42:44 PM »
Just to schematically represent my above point regarding Kapanadze phenomenal device capacitance.
(since one image = 1000 words)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2614 on: June 21, 2010, 12:53:20 PM »
You refered to magnetic transistors, if such thing existed then an OU device would be a piece of cake

Kapanadze has "magneto-electrical" transistor. I have "magneto-mechanical" transistor which involves enough conversion losses to make it hard to handle.
Look up LaFonte Group Switcher. I can 100% confirm the effect. By applying laughably small force on the shaft you can control big forces in the core of device. To apply force on the shaft you can use any means you like.
Constructing COP > 1 device on this effect is another matter and would need substantial investment and calculations. I just wanted to confirm the effect.

I prefer not to talk about overunity but about devices with COP > 1 that use energy of the environment. Such devices are for example refigerator and other heat pumps.

You can make "closed loop" heat pump. If you manage to convert heat back to electricity with sufficent effiency. Of course actually it is an open loop system because of input from the environment...
Also you can make self-sustaining heat pump without electricity when you have big potential difference or very precise engineering.
I know people who have no water pumps in the heating system of their houses (working on big potential difference).

Same thing is with Kapanadze generator. It is open loop system utilizing energy of the environment.

But enough of offtopic... Over and out.

PS. Dont bother with equations and stuff :D Tesla did not bother also, he just tried to make bigger bang than before ;)

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2615 on: June 21, 2010, 12:56:43 PM »
@Wolf i study what you propose.

BTW basic equations and "stuff" do apply. if you have read a little about Tesla you have surelly pointed out that he made a LOT of calculations and stuff.

grizli

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2616 on: June 21, 2010, 12:57:54 PM »
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[ author=stivep link=topic=7679.msg246068#msg246068 date=1277091582]

NO WE ARE NOT TRYING TO REPAT KAPANADZE
We are trying to take   from everyone who contributed in this field

I have  perfect fluency in at least 3 of Eastern European Languages
That gives me access to all of the Slovian root of linguistic similarities.

Isn't that surprising that   all of the success in the area of Tesla Invention originated from this part of the world,  including Nicolas Tesla by himself ?

The progress in partnership for NO MONEY and our the position in this area is as fallow:

1. In Poland Jacek was able to light the light bulb from HV
2. The signal representation in laboratory is investigated  in reference to Lo Voltage and High Voltage signals.
3. You do not have to geest what is relay going on   when we finish we are willing to give it up.
4. The explanation is in Polish but major factors are in English



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q8r2ikJtZ0

I belong to that "part" of the world (Slavenic) but Russian I don't know.. I used to use google translator for russian forums. There are many Slavenic languages,. and for example Russian , Polish .. etc is much different than language which Tesla spoke(his motherlanguage)

Oh nice LAB you have !!! Much equipment...
Thats great...

But English tranlation of the video would be nice if not too much trouble. On the scope I see dampaned wave (similar to Tesla wave)  what kind of circuit you use to power the coil ... I see 12.5 V power source and .... after that I do not understand..

exnihiloest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2617 on: June 21, 2010, 01:09:44 PM »
Wolf,

You refered to magnetic transistors, if such thing existed then an OU device would be a piece of cake after that. As far i know this does not exist. My latest experiments on MEG, that some have proposed the assumption that a small flux (controlling coils) controls a larger flux (PM flux) just holds no true.
...

I confirm. From all my own experiments, fields simply add (presuming we work within the linear characteristics of the magnetic circuits). This is according to the field theory which says the fields superpose.
So it doesn't a matter there is static fields superposed to variable fields. The change of flux is always due only to the variable fields, not to the static fields from permanent magnets which play no role (the MEG is the typical case).
With no linear magnetic materials, this holds also true provided that we account for the instantaneous values of the material characteristics such permeability, now depending on t.
So we have no evidence that a pure magnetic transistor could exist. A better way could be to control a magnetic path with a voltage or current instead of a flux, but at what price?


baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2618 on: June 21, 2010, 01:23:56 PM »
@Exnihiloest,

This is my view also from a practical point of view. I have also find out that the force to dimantle a double C core closed flux path circuit is almost exponential to the flux flown inside. Anways..

Back to our topic
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I urge anyone interested in Kapanadze device and who has basic understanding of Tesla oscillators backed-up with hands-on experience, and have read Colorado springs notes (especially on enhanced single terminal capacitance suggestions by Tesla 88-89pp) to comment on my views on single terminal capacitance and participate in the discussion.

grizli

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2619 on: June 21, 2010, 01:24:22 PM »
"Will I achieve something extraordinary?
NO I WILL NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The EXTRAORDINARY  was developed by Nikolas Tesla
We are only followers of his dream."

stivep1


It looks like there is allot of  spent on this equipment to prove that Tariel Kapanadze did discover Tesla principles by studying his lectures. I hope I can keep up with you. I speak Polish and live in the USA, I too, am building the Kapanadze device, however I am more practical as to use the experimental methods of building and changing variables on the device.. Let the RACE to discovery begin... I hope to post my Kapagen device videos soon.. Thanks for your "Scientific" aproach... Al …

Also please see post #193 the Pdf file by By Vladimir Utkin u.v@bk.ru, this is one of the most important documents that has surfaced,

"Use additional special “kicking” coil, which can generate short powerful magnetic pulses, and install amplifying Tesla coil along the electrical vector of the E/M field of this coil."


Al...

What you mean TC along electrical vector: does it mean that TC would be at 90 degree to magnetic field of first coil: magnetc field of TC and first coil would be at 90 degree ?: just electrostatic influence from first coil to TC: not magnetic influence ?
Welcome!

Can you link here that document ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2620 on: June 21, 2010, 01:27:28 PM »
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@Exnihiloest,

This is my view also from a practical point of view. I have also find out that the force to dimantle a double C core closed flux path circuit is almost exponential to the flux flown inside. Anways..

Back to our topic
....

I urge anyone interested in Kapanadze device and who has basic understanding of Tesla oscillators backed-up with hands-on experience, and have read Colorado springs notes (especially on enhanced single terminal capacitance suggestions by Tesla 88-89pp) to comment on my views on single terminal capacitance and participate in the discussion.
My comment is : WATCH my post before few pages where I posted link to Russian Kacher TC circuit.. ANWER is there ...


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Again REWATCH this...


Is this just capacitive effect or radianth effect related to tesla patent with elevated plate for recieving radiating energy ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbwpie_OtqU&feature=related

Now compare this with thick copper rod inside Kapanazde coil , and with video "strange russain transformer"

So WHY bulb work there is NO TRANSFORMATION of current ... we have HV at the top of TC and insiginificant current.... but again bulb works. and determined by bulb voltage of that plate near TC can not oscilate more than 220V...
So will 1mhz at 220V for that plate capacity make enough power ? capacity of that plate near is probably 16pF. and OF IT OSCILATES AT about 1mhz if I am corrent that about 0.4 W.. WHY THAN light bulb works ?

Classic TC reciver tranmistter has miny turn and low turn wire ... load is connceted to low turn wire ... we here have only metal plate near TC ...

EXPLAIN that ... and probably you sill explain how kapanadze device work

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2621 on: June 21, 2010, 01:30:19 PM »
Searching for LTspice model (that I didn't find) for electric arcs, which could be a key point of the Kapanadze device, I came across a new today's article on arXiv:
"Modeling Vacuum Arcs"
http://arxiv.org/abs/1006.3770

May be of some interest even if this one concern arcs in vacuum.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2622 on: June 21, 2010, 02:09:07 PM »
BTW basic equations and "stuff" do apply. if you have read a little about Tesla you have surelly pointed out that he made a LOT of calculations and stuff.

Well that's a double edged sword, Tesla still was a great experimentator rather than great calculator ;) Don't you find strange that we all are gathered here because of a uneducated man like Kapanadze, rather than because of a some kind of hi-end doctor-person?
Also most world-changing findings are made by people who did not care much about state-of-the-art science...
Of course perfecting these findings is another matter ;)

baroutologos

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2623 on: June 21, 2010, 02:24:50 PM »
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Grizzly
My comment is : WATCH my post before few pages where I posted link to Russian Kacher TC circuit.. ANWER is there ...

Griz, i have done those experiments. With the Kacher and a metal plate near it and the Zatsarinia single-rod transformer. They are not OU in any case.

Concelrning the russian youtube video you mention (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbwpie_OtqU&feature=related ) and has been discussed before, There is a capacitative coupling between Kacher's coil and a metal plate that goes to ground via a load. In best case the lamp can be lit at 50-70% efficiency that is fed to coil. (this is how much i have achieved and everydoby else so far. If i am wrong state setups and experience)

You calculate
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An 16pf of single terminal capacitance (is that only 16pf??? Note the capacitance of the bulb + wiring till there is added) of the metal plate and you suggest a nominal 200volt to be achieved or a 300+ and 300- at each charge of capacitance cycle and you make the calculations.

amperage = capacitance x voltage x frequency x 2 (two times the cap is charged)
amperage = 16/1.000.000.000.000 * 300* 1.000.000 * 2 = almost 10mA

A typical 40 watt (assuming this is 40 watts if not less) at 220 volts to be fully lit requires approx 200 mAs (it is not fully anyway) so according you logic it is impossible to light that lamp. Correct. So something "radiant" must be there?

...
WHo told you that the metal plate near the oscillating kachers gets only +300 to -300 capacitative coupled voltage????? You say so because the lamps operates at such nominal mains volatge?

This is quite irrelevant.
Easily the metal plate can reach a couple of thousands volts near the Kacher.

@Wolf,

Kapanadze is an achitect. He is not uneducated man. And apparently he is very talented in many aspects.
WHO TOLD YOU, state of the art tech has not OU?
Because you wont find it in the shelf to buy it?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #2624 on: June 21, 2010, 02:37:54 PM »
Griz, i have done those experiments. With the Kacher and a metal plate near it and the Zatsarinia single-rod transformer. They are not OU in any case.

I would suggest to study magnetic viscosity. OU trick is to do action and get out real fast before reaction. In "physics laws" there is said that there will be reaction, of course it will :) But does law say WHEN? Just COP > 1 can be done without such trickery.