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Author Topic: The Last TPU Development On The WWW  (Read 83987 times)

Offline EMdevices

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #240 on: April 27, 2009, 06:11:52 PM »
SM's TPU works at a range of about a mile away from.....<drom roll> ....   POWER LINES,  and the energy it can harvest drops off EXPONENTIALY, so technicaly you also say it works at 10 miles away but the received voltages will be a lot lower.

Vibrations are what's needed for the high Q,  and he discovered them in the KICK,......get it.... the KICK, not a voltage spike, not some other weird concept, but a simple vibration in the filamament when first curent flows (inrush current when filament is cold).  The current interacts with the magnetic field of the earth or some other magnetic field near by.

Now,  the filament has it's own vibrational modes of resonance, due to stiffness, length etc..., and when you pump it at the right frequency, it will vibrate.

He discovered the KICK with his electron tubes and the associated noisy transformers, and my guess is that one of these power line harmonics that comprised the noisy signal, happend to fall on the right resonant mode of the filament and exited it and amplified it in the process.  Also mixing might have happend, etc..  Just my guess of what he observed due to the relationship between these phenomena. It's definitely that MICROPHONIC capability of tubes that stands out.

So like GK said long time ago, it's like a guitar string with it's associated magnetic pickup circuitry.
That's a high Q resonant system.   High Q, yeah baby !!!!

That's how I see it, just in case you were curious  LOL

EM


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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #241 on: April 27, 2009, 06:35:32 PM »
SM's TPU works at a range of about a mile away from.....<drom roll> ....   POWER LINES,  and the energy it can harvest drops off EXPONENTIALY, so technicaly you also say it works at 10 miles away but the received voltages will be a lot lower.

Vibrations are what's needed for the high Q,  and he discovered them in the KICK,......get it.... the KICK, not a voltage spike, not some other weird concept, but a simple vibration in the filamament when first curent flows (inrush current when filament is cold).  The current interacts with the magnetic field of the earth or some other magnetic field near by.

Now,  the filament has it's own vibrational modes of resonance, due to stiffness, length etc..., and when you pump it at the right frequency, it will vibrate.

He discovered the KICK with his electron tubes and the associated noisy transformers, and my guess is that one of these power line harmonics that comprised the noisy signal, happend to fall on the right resonant mode of the filament and exited it and amplified it in the process.  Also mixing might have happend, etc..  Just my guess of what he observed due to the relationship between these phenomena. It's definitely that MICROPHONIC capability of tubes that stands out.

So like GK said long time ago, it's like a guitar string with it's associated magnetic pickup circuitry.
That's a high Q resonant system.   High Q, yeah baby !!!!

That's how I see it, just in case you were curious  LOL

EM

If the TPU is coupling to powerlines magnetically, why didn't he use a ferromagnetic core?

If the TPU derives energy from powerlines, why was the Atomic Energy Comission so interested in it?

If the TPU derives energy from power lines, which is illegal in the US, why the gag order and why would UEC have any interest?


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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #242 on: April 27, 2009, 07:19:51 PM »
EM,

Read this if you have IEEE access:

Flashover to a resin bonded carbon fibre fishing rod from anoverhead power line: doubt about the mechanism
Norris, W.T.
High Voltage Engineering, 1999. Eleventh International Symposium on (Conf. Publ. No. 467)
Volume 2, Issue , 1999 Page(s):333 - 336 vol.2
Digital Object Identifier   
Summary:The question is raised whether breakdown to a carbon fibre fishing rod held a few metres from an overhead 33 kV power line might occur as the result of the discharge of accumulated charge on the rod arising from a rectifying action. The discharge might provoke muscular contraction in the person holding the rod so that the rod was sharply brought into contact with the energised conductors. Or perhaps the discharge might trigger long distance breakdown through the air


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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #243 on: April 27, 2009, 07:25:18 PM »
To be honest  :) i don't care about all that man.
How many years should it take? And how much moeny?? even if it's real.
I am not going to spend one more cent on a tpu.

Tesla has documented many nice test's for me to do so that will be my primary direction from now on  :)
And i even like it more then TPU'ing.

Marco.

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #244 on: April 27, 2009, 07:42:29 PM »
To be honest  :) i don't care about all that man.
How many years should it take? And how much moeny?? even if it's real.
I am not going to spend one more cent on a tpu.

Tesla has documented many nice test's for me to do so that will be my primary direction from now on  :)
And i even like it more then TPU'ing.

Marco.

and you will find that it's all related :-) IMHO choking effect is a kick, current kick

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #245 on: April 27, 2009, 09:22:35 PM »
To be honest  :) i don't care about all that man.
How many years should it take? And how much moeny?? even if it's real.
I am not going to spend one more cent on a tpu.

Tesla has documented many nice test's for me to do so that will be my primary direction from now on  :)
And i even like it more then TPU'ing.

Marco.

Same forces, same effects.

EDIT:

I wonder if they tried lead or carbon as a collector material.  The results may be surprising.

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #246 on: April 27, 2009, 10:01:16 PM »
@EMD!
Dude, you woke me up!

Let us take a stand by a guitar pick up. We look up at the overhead lines. They move back and forth exciting the field of that strange coil we are standing next to. Power lines don't move mechanically but magnetically. We take our large pickup(TPU) and have it produce a magnetic field. It connects to the larger magnetic field. We ring it like an effective aperture. We now can use the ringing of the mag field off the power lines. Now we put on our sunglasses, because we are very cool. We look up in the sky past the guitar strings, past the power lines and at the magnetic field of the earth. It moves and we be inside it. What do you think the effective aperture is?
Now look past that at the magnetic field between the earth and the moon, at the solar system and all the magnetic cylinders spinning around inside of each other. And then a totally topside view.

It never ends....

--gaintkiller. How can we even begin to be humble when we overdose on feeble every moment?


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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #247 on: April 28, 2009, 12:20:46 AM »
Overdose on this:


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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #248 on: January 14, 2022, 10:12:59 AM »
Guys, if any of you are still alive, or listening, lol, I did actually crack the puzzle. Was a PITA because SM's own descriptions had been interpreted to death, but I do know how to make one now, and what all the coils were for, and most importantly to me... WHAT it is and WHY it worked. I think SM had a clue, I really do. I think his natural ability to share clues left something to be desired.


The heating issue is inherent. Getting rid of that may well be impossible without the use of a superconductor. The problem is that what he made is a real head-twister, in that most everything to do with normal electrical generation just simply does not apply to the SM TPU. Lenz's law doesn't apply. Normal rotating fields don't apply. Back when I was working on this exclusively, I was influenced not only by SM's words, but hundreds of individual interpretations of his words from my fellows here. Going back to JUST what he said, well, it makes as much sense as interpreting a physics book by reading comics...


Until you figure out what is going on, that is. Then what he says generally makes perfect sense.


The SM TPU is not a "generator" per say. It is a miniature charged particle accelerator, pure and simple. It won't ever compete with CERN, that is for sure, but the principles of how it works are generally the same, except the particles (free electrons) are accelerated (pushed) down a conducting loop by a single pole of a magnetic field.


Sounds easy doesn't it? Oh hell no. Generating the required rotating magnetic field, completely ass opposite parallel to the conductor is anything BUT easy.  Figuring out how to make numerous coils to create a moving magnetic field using pulsed DC is not as easy as it sounds. It is literally Tesla style difficult, in that everything from the frequency, duty cycle, coil length, number of coils, and applied pulse wavelength has to be almost gnat's butt precise. Then you have to fight field flipping which will kill the effect.


The rotating field around the "collector" as SM put it never cuts a conductor, so lenz's law never raises it's ugly head.


What is necessary is to have a center coil of conductive wire(collector), but it doesn't have to be in a coil, just a loop with ends available for input/output. It can be several loops taped in a bundle. Around this are the field coils, to which a DC square wave pulse is applied that fires the first coil and establishes a magnetic field. The next coil spaced closely to it needs to fire to 100% strength and remain charged as the first shuts off. The magnetic field links between the two coils in this manner, and appears to slide from coil to coil. This is repeated down the line of coils until it starts over.


For those that do not know this, a magnet acts like a diode, as the magnetic field allows a charge to only flow in one direction if applied in series with the direction of magnetic force. Flow one way, nothing the other.


Around both the field windings and the collector coil (loop) are what SM called the "control coils", specifically a long coil wound in the same direction as the field windings so that the field generated will be identical to the rotating field in orientation. This coils is fed with steady DC, and helps prevent field distortion in the rotating field when the current is removed from a coil and it tries to flip.


Between the control windings and the field windings needs to be a physical gap, like a layer of foam, so that the mass of curving lines at the ends of the moving magnetic fields do not cut the wires of the control circuit, or lenz's law pokes up its ugly head again.


This coil setup is touchy as a cantankerous grandma, but I will say that if you give it a kick (pulse), it will indeed squeeze the pipe (push electrons), lol. It is a high frequency device though, as the rotations around the coil have to be as fast as possible. The output of electricity is medium voltage (frequency dependent upon how many rotations per second of the rotating field around the perimeter of the collector coil) pulsed DC.


If it were CERN, the pulse would blow the door off of your house. With this, you have to be content running appliances etc.


How to make the device not work? DO ANYTHING WRONG. Seriously though, any ferromagnetic material too close to the windings, and it wont work. It induces hysteresis into the system, causing drag, as well as playing heck with the magnetic field orientation. If you have eight field windings, then to get 20khz pulses off of the collector, then you have to pulse each winding at 160khz. Each pass around the coil is only going to give a certain number of electrons at the output end of the collector, so energy over time is a matter of how many passes per second the rotating field goes around the coil.


Do NOT try to make two or more fields, unless you like lenz's law. The two fields on opposite sides of the coil will link N/S with each other. This device uses a single magnetic  field rotating around the loop.


Now, the real pain in the butt.


Each freaking replication is going to have its own frequencies/wavelengths, as these will be specific to the field coils/circumference of your device you wind for your replication, f you choose to do so.


I am done with the SM TPU now, myself. Possible, but way too temperamental and difficult to accurately design/build for my tastes. If someone manages an easy way to do it, awesome.


Paul Andrulis

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #249 on: January 14, 2022, 06:37:25 PM »
Thanks, Sir. I think you got a good point

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« Reply #250 on: January 14, 2022, 06:51:15 PM »
Reminds me of this patent.
Imagine putting conductor inside travelling wave ring, and pulsing it with HV to kick electrons out of conductor.
Now we have particle accelerator.
Is this somewhat similiar with your description?


Cheers,
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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #251 on: January 15, 2022, 05:40:34 AM »
Reminds me of this patent.
Imagine putting conductor inside travelling wave ring, and pulsing it with HV to kick electrons out of conductor.
Now we have particle accelerator.
Is this somewhat similiar with your description?


Cheers,
Pix


Post the patent number or a link to it, and I will let you know, lol.


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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #252 on: January 15, 2022, 06:06:53 AM »
3085189

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #253 on: January 15, 2022, 10:18:55 AM »
Hi Paul,
Patent is attached to my previous please see below.
I am attaching it again to this message. Number: US3085189


Cheers,
Pix


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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #254 on: January 17, 2022, 01:27:44 AM »
Looked it up. The technology is completely different.