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Author Topic: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION  (Read 3012764 times)

Floor

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8835 on: September 23, 2021, 09:00:23 AM »
It may be that I am misinformed. I am not an expert on this subject.

My previous explanations are as I have understood some of the basics
of wave interactions.

There is a similar set of physical relationships in regard to mass, energy and
acceleration.

         kinetic energy = 1/2 times mass times velocity squared.

A 1 kilogram mass moving at a speed of 1 meter per second has 1/2
joule of kinetic energy in its momentum.
              1/2 x 1 kg x 1m/s^2 = ..............  1/2 joule of kinetic energy

A 1 kilogram mass moving at a speed of 2 meters per second (twice the speed)
has 2  joules of kinetic energy in its momentum.
               1/2 x 1 kg x 2m/s^2 = ...............  2 joules of kinetic energy

Only twice the speed, but 4 times the energy content (2 is 4 times greater than 1/2).

This is not free energy, because it requires 4 times as much energy input, to accelerate
from at rest, a 1 kg mass to a speed of 2 meters per second, than is required to accelerate
a 1 kg mass from at rest, to a speed of 1 meter per second.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8836 on: September 23, 2021, 11:16:14 AM »
Just like centrifugal force is mass velocity squared over r etc.

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This is not free energy, because it requires 4 times as much energy input, to accelerate
from at rest, a 1 kg mass to a speed of 2 meters per second, than is required to accelerate
a 1 kg mass from at rest, to a speed of 1 meter per second.

You keep missing the point mixing apples and oranges. Kinetic energy is not the same as wave superposition. Two masses of 1kg moving at 2 m/s when joined together will become one 2kg mass moving at 2m/s, energy has not changed. It is still 2 x 2² that is 8.

This is obviously cause for kinetic energy speed is squared and for speed to change you need additional energy.

But for waves AMPLITUDE is squared and for that you don't need additional energy.

For waves 1+1=4

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Vajda's paper conclusion

8. Conclusions and arising questions

The analysis and calculation results according to the previous chapters unambiguously prove that the law of energy conservation is not generally valid for the resultant field of coherent spherical electromagnetic waves (radiation) with identical frequency, since an excess- or deficiency of energy can also appear, compared to the total radiated energy, the magnitude of which depends on the parameters and geometrical position of the radiating sources. In the case of incoherent radiation (with different frequencies) the law of energy conservation will be satisfied also only, if it is valid for each radiation source separately. These declarations are valid not exclusively for spherical waves, but also for cylindrical waves and moreover for waves in general. By summarizing it conclusively we can declare as a fact, that the law of energy conservation is not generally valid – but only in special cases – for the energy propagation in space (as radiation) in the form of waves, concerning the resultant energy of the waves. Here under waves we should understand them to be not exclusively electromagnetic waves.

Further questions arising in connection with the violation of the law of energy conservation

When the necessary conditions are satisfied, where does the excess of energy come from, compared to the energy fed into the system; and in the case of energy deficiency, into what does the energy gets transformed into (or where does it disappear to)? Since the discovery of the antiparticles it is a known fact, that when a particle is united with its pair of antiparticle, then its rest mass disappears and their mass-energy (in quantum form) will be transformed into electromagnetic radiant energy. The question is whether this process is reversible, and if (under certain conditions) yes, then whether the excess of radiant energy can result in excess of particles and/or antiparticles. Namely whether an excess of mass or mass-energy can be created? Or whether the mentioned energy deficiency can be compensated by the rise of mass energy? Based on the analogy of matter and antimatter, can there be energy and anti-energy? If anti-energy does exist, then how can it be interpreted? As a conclusion we can only say briefly, that the violability of the law of energy conservation – besides its practical applicability – can hopefully represent a more generalized interpretation of the classical nuclear-physics, as well as of our knowledge about the universe, especially by answering the above questions.

Budapest
28 January 1998
János Vajda

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But as Zephir says in 2016 thread:

"But it also means, that if we put a light impulse between two parallel mirrors, i.e. the resonator, then the energy should attenuate (he meant amplify) itself during each reflection followed with constructive interference ad infinitum. Which is apparently what doesn't happen there."

True, that is, we don't usually see this effect in reflected light, why. As Vajda says energy can be more or LESS, depending on various factors.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8837 on: September 23, 2021, 04:24:06 PM »
partial quote
You keep missing the point mixing apples and oranges. Kinetic energy is not the same as wave superposition. Two masses of 1kg moving at 2 m/s when joined together will become one 2kg mass moving at 2m/s, energy has not changed. It is still 2 x 2² that is 8.

!. first... ! did not say that kinetic energy is the same as wave superposition.
                           But you say I did ?

I said "There is a similar set of physical relationships in regard to mass, energy and
acceleration."

2.  Wave superposition @
https://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/superposition/superposition.html

3.  nix85 quote "Two masses of 1kg moving at 2 m/s when joined together will become
one 2kg mass moving at 2m/s, energy has not changed. It is still 2 x 2² that is 8."

Surly 2 x 2^2  = 8,  but that is not the equation for kinetic energy.

The kinetic energy of an object due to its motion is

         1/2   times    its mass   times   its velocity squared.
                 or
             Ek  = 1/2 mv2

1/2 x 2 kg x 2m/s2 = 4 joules

                        That is  4 joules  not 8 joules.


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8838 on: September 23, 2021, 04:37:00 PM »
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!. first... ! did not say that kinetic energy is the same as wave superposition.
                           But you say I did ?

I said "There is a similar set of physical relationships in regard to mass, energy and
acceleration."

2.  Wave superposition @
https://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/superposition/superposition.html

3.  "Two masses of 1kg moving at 2 m/s when joined together will become one 2kg mass
moving at 2m/s, energy has not changed. It is still 2 x 2² that is 8."

Surly 2 x 2^2  = 8,  but that is not the equation for kinetic energy.

The kinetic energy of an object due to its motion is

         1/2   times    its mass   times   its velocity squared.
                 or
             Ek  = 1/2 mv2

1/2 x 2 kg x 2m/s2 = 4 joules

                        That is  4 joules  not 8 joules.

1) You are again missing the point and mixing apples and pears. You indeed said ""There is a similar set of physical relationships in regard to mass, energy and acceleration." and then you went on to conclude "This is not free energy"... So what. What has that to do with wave superposition, nothing.

2) We all know what wave superposition is

3) Oh my. Again grabbing onto irrelevant. Of course there is that 1/2 in front just like it is in formula for energy in a capacitor or inductor.

energy stored in an inductor E = LI²/2
energy stored in an cap E = 1/2 QV = Q²/2C = CV²/2

That 1/2 is not really 1/2, it is approximation/assumption of losses and that is irreleavant here. Whole kinetic energy parallel is irrelevant.

Point is energy of a wave is amplitude squared..

"The energy transported by a wave is directly proportional to the square of the amplitude. So whatever change occurs in the amplitude, the square of that effect impacts the energy. This means that a doubling of the amplitude results in a quadrupling of the energy."

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8839 on: September 23, 2021, 04:43:20 PM »

           Bull Shit

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8840 on: September 23, 2021, 04:47:03 PM »
HA!


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8842 on: September 23, 2021, 05:01:58 PM »
"Because free space is isotropic and lossess, the E and H fields are perpendicular to each other and are in phase. If the wave is in a lossy medium, E and H will be out of phase, although usually the phase difference is very small. If the medium is anisotropic, E and H will not necessarily be perpendicular to each other, although they likely be very close to being perpendicular."

Floor

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8843 on: September 23, 2021, 05:19:01 PM »
You nix85, are the one mixing apple with oranges here. You are confused.

You write 2 x 2^2 = 8.  Your words are meaningless, incomplete jibberish.
                       So what  2 x 2^2 = 8
2 of what ? x 2^2 of what ? = 8 of what ?

In fact the phrase "energy amplification"  its self , doesn't make sense.

Do you really think that two waves from opposite ends of  a jump rope, constructively meeting
at is center contains more than the sum of the energy of the two waves separately ?
                                              If not, what is your point here ?
I'll stand by every thing I have said here. Will you?

I did not say that kinetic energy is the same as wave superposition.
                           But you said I did.
                              Did you not ?

          Nice links Lanka

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8844 on: September 23, 2021, 05:40:15 PM »
No, Floor, you are mixing apples with oranges here and you are confused.

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You write 2 x 2^2 = 8.  Your words are meaningless, incomplete jibberish.
                       So what  2 x 2^2 = 8
2 of what ? x 2^2 of what ? = 8 of what ?

2kg x 4m/s = 8J all is perfectly clear and assumed. Units and 1/2 don't matter, we are looking for proportionality and clearly joining two masses traveling at same speed does not increase the kinetic energy anymore than energy of the two masses individually and thus that comparison is irrelevant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy#Newtonian_kinetic_energy

Yet when it comes to waves things are different since doubling of amplitude quadruples the energy. I am not claiming this, this is a well known and accepted formula. You wanna say the formula is wrong?

Energy amplification does make sense, we are living in an open system.

Dr. Vajda explained this theoretically and experimentally. Need i also mention Don Smith and others.

BTW i had a pdf few years ago of a russian study which confirmed Vajda's superposition OU principle. I don't have it any more but i am sure someone on this forum does.

It may have been Gennadiy Vasilevich Nikolaev, he's been mentioned here.
https://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/1665/

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8845 on: September 23, 2021, 06:13:09 PM »
(Chill)
I heared from somewhere about a behaviour named ' gentleman's agreement ' !I do not really know from where !?  ::)
But let us go ,virtually,entering :britannica and read about 'matter' !
matter ,materia(l) and ,together with energy,....
anti-matter
anti-energy
Quark
Anti-Quark


Now silently departing
OCWL

p.s.:        - or   + ,ccw or cw,(pro-) or anti -  left or right,above or below,super or sub

               attraction is stronger in force than repulsion ( JLNLabs experiments) or vice- versa ?
               ccw energie as same in force units as cw energy ?
               on Earth    super-aequatorial/sub-aequatorial line dependent ?       
               North-/South-hemisphere and Coriolisforce-and direction as comparison-' object' ?


              Coanda,Flettner,Meissner(-Ochsenfeld Effect,also in supra-conduction to see )

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« Reply #8846 on: September 23, 2021, 06:52:33 PM »
There are streams of subtle matter swirling around earth, these are the source OU devices tap into.

"The main etheric flows in the temperate zones run from west to east, and in the equator, the main flow is from east to west. There are large differences in temperate zone etheric densities and response times compared to (faster) equator. The west to east flow of ether in the northern hemisphere is strongest at full moon, and weakest at new moon. There is also south to north terrestrial flow of ether in the northern hemisphere spring and summer, and in the winter this flow reverses. The west to east flow and the south to north flow are separate functions of the ether, but to some degree they mutually influence each other."

Constable, Trevor J. 1990. Etheric Rain Engineering

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8847 on: September 23, 2021, 07:12:58 PM »
nix85 quote
"2kg x 4m/s = 8kJ all is perfectly clear and assumed. Units don't even matter as long as they are on same scale (kg vs m/s etc) nor does 1/2, proportionality does. Since you grab onto irrelevant, i'll state the obvious that using the 1/2 OBVIOUSLY the result is 4kJ (not J as you wrote)."
end of nix85 quote

         Wikipedia quote
"For example, one would calculate the kinetic energy of an 80 kg mass (about 180 lbs)
traveling at 18 meters per second (about 40 mph, or 65 km/h) as Ek = 1/2 • 80 • (18m/s)^2
= 12960 J = 12.96 kJ "
   end of wikipedia quote

1/2 x 80 = 40
18^2  = 324
40 x 324 = 12960 joules...  and not kilojoules
.. ... ... ... ...
nix85 quote
 "2kg x 4m/s = 8kJ all is perfectly clear and assumed."
end of nix85 quote

                      wrong
a 2kg mass moving at 4m/s velocity has
              16 j of kinetic energy and    NO not 8kj

1/2 x 2kg x 4m/s^2

1/2 x 2 kg = 1
4m/s2 = 16
1 x 16 = 16 j


nix85 quote
"Units don't even matter as long as they are on same scale (kg vs m/s etc) nor
does 1/2, proportionality does." 

Your statement doesn't even make sense. 

... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Some times posts from a word processor don't transcribe correctly to an O.U post. 

Example: exponets may be missing or show up on the posts in a normal font position
insted of as a superscript.

Get some sleep.

I'm out of here
    peace out
      floor

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   thank you
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« Reply #8848 on: September 23, 2021, 08:26:41 PM »
HA! I wrote that in a rush and corrected it immediately, I KNEW you're gonna grab onto that like a desperate dog. Especially considering you replied 1 hour and a half after the correction has been made. :) Pathetic.

"Your statement doesn't even make sense."

It would make sense to you if you had brains. We are talking energy gain in superposition of waves. You brought up the kinetic energy comparison where no such gain even theoretically occurs. Units and the 1/2 factor do not matter in this context. What matters is that kinetic energy of two masses before and after they are added together is exactly the same. Thus parallel is nonsensical.

Yet based on it you conclude "This is not free energy" :) Genius

"Get some sleep"

HA! You get some sleep and some new brains.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8849 on: September 23, 2021, 10:17:08 PM »
Here is a quote from George Van Tassel's book When stars look down about German study which apparently verified the Earth grid. Grid is mentioned in many alternative sources, occult, contactee, NDE cases etc. Also reminds me Ed Leedskalnin moved his whole Coral Castle, i can't remember the exact quote but it had something to do with the grid, new location was apparently more susceptible to degravitation.

"Rock Gate Park, as Edward Leedskalnin called the place, began construction originally in Florida City around 1923. In 1936, Edward began a three year move of his structure about 10 miles (16 km) north to its current location in Homestead, Florida, at the intersection of U.S. 1 (South Dixie Highway) and Southwest 157th Ave. He continued its construction in the new location until his death in 1951."

From When stars look down:

A book, published in the German language, in Innsbruck, Austria in
1952, explains the findings of outstanding researchers into the earths
power grid system. The title of this book is “The World of the Secret
Forces." In German, "Die Welt Der Geheimen Machte."

The men involved are Dr. Willi Schlosser, Prof. Hellmut Wolff,
Hans-Wilhelm Smolik, Heinrich Reblitz, Theodor Weimann, Herbert
A. Lohlein, Ferdinand Reich, Univ. Prof. Dr. Hubert J. Urban, Dir.
Prof. Dr. K. Saller, Prof. Dr. Georg Anschutz, Prof. Dr. Theol and
Adolf Koberle. Quite an impressive group of qualified professional
people, to agree, and be involved in one book. They established that
the earth is covered on the surface by a grid system of positive and
negative poles in a checkerboard pattern.

Excerpts from the book are as follows:

“Each of the squares has a center pole surrounded by 8 smaller poles.
(Here again is the Chinese Cosmic Flower, the Hubbard Coils, the
Tesla System of extracting energy from the earth. Ed.)

These squares vary in size from the equator, getting smaller in the
direction of the earths poles. The main pole concentrates energy. At
North Latitude 48° (The latitude where these men conducted their
research. Ed.) the center pole has a diameter of 2.45 meters. The 8
smaller poles have a diameter of 60 c.m. Four of the 8 outer poles
(alternately) send energy up toward the sky. The other four send
energy outward horizontally to North, South, East and West.

The squares (48° N. Latitude) are 15.90 meters diagonally from
center to center poles.

N/sinus 45° = 15.9/0.707 = 22.5 meters

A border field is mingled together in the Northwest and Southeast
directions and in the Southwest and Northeast directions, These 4 cor-
ners of the squares seem to connect the fields of 2 of the negative
smaller poles and two of the positive smaller poles.

At these points any person (or body) will receive a mixture of nega-
tive and positive energies.

The side length measurements at the equator are 32 meters long. It
was found out that the earth between its North and South Poles was a
“stick” magnet. On this magnetic field there are electric currents per-
pendicular to the "stick" magnet.

Strange to say that the Cheops pyramid on the 30° North latitude,
stands on a diagonal measurement of the pole field of 30 meters on
each side of the squares.

The main center poles of each positive square shows a direction of
energy from above to below the earths surface. There a vortex is cre-
ated with a pulse like the hand of a clock. The negative poles are vice
versa.

Dr. Rohracher, of the University of Vienna made a very sensitive
electro-magnetic tuning fork (The Hendershot device also has a mag-
netic tuning fork. Ed.) that showed from 7 to 18 movements per sec-
ond. Prof. Dr. Regelsberger made an electrometer which showed
electric impulses of 10 millionth of an amp.

Dr. Muller, from Zurich, Switzerland, measured the electric field on
the human body. The body "aura" will change if you move into a dif-
ferent location.

This means the magnetic or electric field of the earth is different.

The ‘dowsing rod’ can locate the center of these positive and nega-
tive poles. These measurements should be made with different lengths
of ‘dowsing rods. The length gives different wave length readings.

The point you find with the rod is a knot of a free standing wave.
- (We call this energy point a ‘time zone’ or ‘this other energy.’ It is not
magnetic, or electric. Hieronymous calls it 'Eloptic Energy.' Ed.)

The ‘aura’ of the human body will be charged on all positive polarity
pole centers and it will discharge the human 'aura' on all negative
poles until no aura is registered. This is how one can register whether
the poles are positive, or negative.

These experiments are physiologically and psychologically of the
greatest importance to health. Whoever goes into the secret of the
earths ray powers will know the wheel of destiny.

These powers are free, not the power from our power plants. These
in and out powers have to do with the human organism. The trouble
zones and health zones have to do with the movement of the planets
and stars. In the micro-cosmos it (the earth) is the electron that is in `
the command of our creator. (What a statement to come from these
distinguished men. Ed.)

This is the pattern of the secret of creation and this is why the
Chinese speak of the secret of the golden blossom.

It is well known that there are rows of cancer houses in certain
towns and most of these inhabitants are dying of this terrible sickness.
The dowsers have proven that the bedrooms of cancer patients are on
the grid crossings of the trouble zones.

Waldemar V. Jankowsky wrote about the cancer problem and said
the light quantum and the Pi-electron are the cause. The dowsers
proved these trouble zones are in the positive fields. Frh. V. Pohl wrote;
‘earth beams are sickness exciters. We could find the positive fields by
experiments? `

The places of the negative polar fields shows entirely different effects
on the human organism. Now here is an entirely new field for search-
ing doctors who are interested in the world of fine beams. Through
this effect the life span of the human can be changed.” (This verifies
what we are trying to do with the “Integratron” machine. Ed.)

Captain Bruce Cathie’s two books “Harmonic 33” and “Harmonic
695” seem to follow a pattern “township” grid composed of many of
the smaller grids like “sections.”

It is strange that the German material and Cathies grids coincide on
the great pyramid, and other points on the earths surface. These re-
searches conducted years apart and on opposite sides of the globe tend
to verify each other.

The fact that microwave transmissions, and receptions, are being
carried on through the earths surface by coordinating resonance at
different points, is proof that secret scientific people are already aware
of the great potentials of the grid system for power, navigation, and
antigravity directional control.

Baxter's research with plants; the Hieronymous research with insects;
research into bio-transducers by L. George Laurence; Kirlian photo-
graphy; acupuncture, and numerous other aspects are verifying each
other.

In the "Proceedings" of November 1953, on page five we explained
the “earths force field.” Four years later science verified this and called
it the "Van Allen Radiation Belt." In the 1953 article we printed: "this
ring maintains balanced interchange of power through the crust and
atmosphere of this planet."

In the Septémber-October 1965 issue of the "Proceedings," on page
4, we wrote up the earth forces in an article titled, “This Amazing
Armature." In the 1965 article we said, ^There are other fields in the
earths bulk that are not measurable with a magnetic instrument such
as a compass. These fields, and currents are the carriers and distributors

of what we call ‘life force.’ This ‘life force’ is only measurable and de-
tectable through ‘living’ instruments and it is also subject to thought.”

If people knew they were living in a positive square on the earth they
would move, or be subject to the physical ailments caused by it.

This article could go on indefinitely, because there is not enough re-
search going on for the benefit of people, and too much going on for
their detriment.

Mrs. Ford, the Presidents wife, and Mrs. Rockefeller, having to suffer
the conditions of breast cancer surgery, is proof that the detrimental
forces can affect people in the highest positions in life.

It looks like the government would appropriate more money to study
these forces and subsidize those people who are already involved in the
research into this “life force.”