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citfta

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7740 on: January 26, 2017, 09:50:56 PM »
Erfinder,

Sorry I did not see your PM until just a few minutes ago.  I think what you are wanting me to see might be explained by figure 4 of the Alexander patent.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7741 on: January 27, 2017, 01:28:00 AM »
"Self-induction coil for condenser method in conjunction with oscillating transformer. Adapted to Thomas clockwork and condenser 1/2 mfd. mica on hand (one of the two small condensers). Capacity given 1/2 mfd., break also given: wheel of clockwork breaking and making contact has 180 teeth, turns about 20 a minute. This gives breaks =60 60 per second."

"As has been stated on a previous occasion in connection with this subject, to enable a considerable rise of pressure to take place in a circuit, the same must be tolerably free from inductive influences of other circuits. It follows from this that, although with a secondary in loose connection with a primary a very high pressure is obtainable, yet the pressure will never be as high as when an "extra coil" not in inductive connection with the primary is employed to raise the pressure, because the secondary always reacts upon the primary thus dampening the vibration, while the "extra coil" does not react in such a manner, the rise of pressure being simply due to the factor pL/R."

 This was taken from here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes04.htm

 July 12th entry.

 With reading the patent he states the motor coils are the high self induction coils. Although the components are rearranged slightly it is essentially the same thing.

  The primary of the oscillating transformer is the two turn of the ozone patent(also the extra coil) and the capacitor, with the secondary being the high voltage solenoid feeding the air capacitor or Ozone plates which is an open circuit and not shorted but by the induction across the Ozone plates.

 In the patent it states:

 " apparatus devised for the purpose of converting and supplying electrical energy in a form suited for the production of certain novel electrical phenomena which require currents of higher frequency and potential than can readily or even possibly be developed by generators of the ordinary types or by such mechanical appliances as were theretofore known. This apparatus involved means for utilizing the intermittent or oscillating discharge of the accumulated electrical energy of a condenser or a circuit possessing capacity in what may be designated the “working” circuit or that which contains the translating devices or means for utilizing such currents. In my present improvement I have utilized appliances of this general character under conditions and in combination with certain instrumentalities, hereinafter described, which enable me to produce, without difficulty and at very slight expense, ozone in any desired quantities. I would state the apparatus which I have devised for this purpose is capable of other and highly important uses of a similar nature, so but for purposes of the present case I deem it sufficient to describe its operation and effects when used for the purpose of generating ozone."

 Where do you get energy amplification from?

 Although he does say that this process can be used for other and highly important uses of a similar nature he doesn't go into it in the patent you referenced.

 In my experience this system takes DC and converts it to a high voltage freely oscillating pulse to be applied across the plates which is an air capacitor designed to generate Ozone. Yes there are other uses for this system but nothing is said in the patent to give a clue as to it's operation or the theory behind that operation. Not in the patent. In order to figure out the other uses all one needs to do is look at other experiments he did in that area. The above link should help all to figure out what he meant by other uses.

 But for you I will tell you something about these systems.

 "Owing to this feature I expect that this method of raising the e.m.f. with an open coil will be recognized later as a material and beautiful advance in the art. No such pressures — even in the remotest degree, can be obtained with resonating circuits otherwise constituted with two terminals forming a closed path. It is also a fact that the highest pressure, at a free terminal, is obtained in that form of such apparatus in which one of the terminals is connected to the ground. But such "extra coils" with one terminal free may also be used with ordinary transformers and by using one such coil on each of the terminals of the transformer, practically any spark length may be reached."

 AGAIN: "No such pressures — even in the remotest degree, can be obtained with resonating circuits otherwise constituted with two terminals forming a closed path."

 The secondary of the Ozone patent is an open path. The only thing closing it is the induction between the plates of the air capacitor.

 The extra coils he talks about is here:

 "In order to produce the greatest possible movement of electricity through a region of the earth in accordance with the plan involving use of a single terminal oscillator, as here experimented with, it is desirable to obtain in some way a large capacity on the free terminal. This is connected with difficulty as spheres get to be too large with moderate tensions and when the tensions go into the millions, streamers can not be easily overcome. The streamers involve loss of pressure just as leaks would on a water pipe which is closed at one end. Large capacity is obtainable in a number of ways of which some are:

 1) a coil wound for maximum capacity (internal). The turns are so disposed that between the adjacent turns of layers there exists a great difference of potential, as much as the insulation can stand."

 On a side note Tesla figured out that the insulation can be enhanced by the use of an oil bath of the extra coil. Careful attention to extracting all the air one can from said coil to reduce insulation destruction on extreme pressures should be followed.

 The bifilar coil is that capacity he mentioned as number one on the list. This was explained in the July 16 notes.

 The second picture fig.2 is the schematic he shows for moving the maximum currents through the ground, shown below.

 And the figure 1 diagram is what Tariel Kapandze based most of his devices on. With the ground wire going through the center of the transformer. Is it possible to tap the extra coils energy? Thats the million dollar question?
« Last Edit: January 27, 2017, 04:04:19 AM by jbignes5 »

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7742 on: January 27, 2017, 12:33:30 PM »
Seems to be a lull here, has anyone considered the possibility that you are getting a transformer type reaction between the generator coils.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7743 on: January 27, 2017, 01:53:21 PM »
Dear Dave45.

10/10.....

Good effort.

Kind regards, Graham.

jbignes5

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7744 on: January 27, 2017, 02:49:10 PM »
 It's not a theory, it's an explanation given by the author of the patent you are trolling.

 The only theory here is yours about energy amplification.

 AGAIN I ask, Where do you get energy amplification from that patent and where is your demonstration of your theory of energy amplification and how it relates to that patent, Tito?

sm0ky2

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7745 on: January 27, 2017, 03:36:53 PM »

Can you support this "theory" with a demonstration?


Any of your standard QC##RCB's or the 1619xx
transformers operate in the manner described
A capacitor is placed across the 3rd coil to form
a tank. This increases the duty-cycle of the signal,
and/or in specific cases can change the frequency.


We have other solutions that perform these tasks, but
transformers have been used in this manner since the
very beginning. It is generally taught to us differently,
Or dismissed as a "stabilizing effect", or other obscure terms.


Tesla described this in great detail, but it sits along side
technologies that pull power directly from the stars, so
mainstream science does not know how to handle this information.


We know about it, we use it, we understand how it works, but to
apply this to already known theory raises questions about what we
think we know. These things are not often discussed in detail in
accredited schools, because they are believed to be teaching us
the unbiased truth.
( which is an outright lie in the American Education System)




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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7746 on: January 27, 2017, 04:10:21 PM »
(http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/162126/image//)
@jbignes5
What is "Nickel Chips Cubical" in your diagram?

jbignes5

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7747 on: January 27, 2017, 04:21:11 PM »
(http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/162126/image//)
@jbignes5
What is "Nickel Chips Cubical" in your diagram?

 The diagram is Tesla's from his Colorado notes.
 
Tesla was researching what effect this form of energy has on matter. It reduces the resistance down to 50 ohms or there about. He was looking for a very sensitive receiver that would oscillate the resistance of the receiver. Like I said there are a few things that need to be changed to get the patent he referenced. In order to get the patent just take the secondary of that transformer and connect it to an air capacitor without connecting to the rest of the circuit.
 
It's the very same as his Tower in a sense. The air capacitor in the tower is between the top load as a plate and the ground. Since it is an open circuit you could get huge voltage gains but at the expense of current. Tesla knew that if a current had little amps it would not be restricted going across a resistance. Hence the Nickle chips device he was testing. As the resistance changed so did the voltage across that resistance and hence it would be a great sensitive detector.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7748 on: January 27, 2017, 04:27:32 PM »

Ok....so you cannot demonstrate your theory.....?

 Either...

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7749 on: January 27, 2017, 04:52:10 PM »

I most certainly can and have demonstrate my theory in action....   I have no need nor desire to show you a damn thing....

 I have not seen a demonstration nor has others. At least refer us to the theory of operation and the demonstration of such theory.

 If you have no such desire to show us anything then why are you here?

jbignes5

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7750 on: January 27, 2017, 05:17:13 PM »


Speak for yourself....you have not seen a demonstration.  The reason for this.....you're not on the list.  I am not referring you to my theory of operation, nor a demonstration. 



I am not obligated to share anything with you, and as far as why I am here....  you've expressed your opinion that I am troll now live with that.....

 "Apparatus for Producing Ozone

For the record Tesla patented the bifilar coil under the patent titled:  Coils for Electro Magnets.  He never mentions however when he uses this particular winding! I have discovered that when you understand how his systems works, it becomes self evident where the coil should be placed.  As an example I offer the following:

454,622 System Of Electric Lighting

This patent predates the ozone patent.  I mention this particular one because of its simplicity.  In this patent Tesla makes use of the disruptive discharge, whereby a generator of low voltage charges an inductor (P).  The voltage is raised by secondary (S).  Secondary (S) charges capacitor (C).  Capacitor (C) discharges across the spark gap (a) through primary (P'), which induces a voltage of high frequency and potential in the secondary (S').  It is this second secondary winding which is a bifilar winding. 

This patent should be compared to the ozone patent, taking note of all similarities and all differences.  Once you comprehend these patents you will then have the proper tools for the production of any amount of gas be it hydrogen, oxygen, or any other gas you desire.

It should be understood that what we are demonstrating is nothing more than molecular excitation.  We are dividing, shifting, and concentrating the molecules within the medium (water).  All that garbage about electrons and what not is not needed, it only clouds the issue.  You are vibrating the medium, and through this action, are dissolving the molecular bonds established between hydrogen and oxygen, and simultaneously causing the hydrogen and oxygen to form stabilized groups of their own on opposing electrodes. 

Violently shaking the medium is one of Nature's methods.


Regard"

 You can play your games but I know your intentions.

"Hi,

Please forgive my intrusion, I just wanted to offer the following.

I take interest in noting that no one has recognized that the production of ozone by high voltage discharge is a "Cold Fusion" process on the molecular level!  It is known that very little input energy is required for the production of enormous amounts of ozone gas.

Lets assume that an environment of air and and environment of water are one and the same, the only difference being the density of the medium in question. Tesla indicated in his ozone patent, that he had devised a means by which gasses other than ozone could be produced, unfortunately he never revealed how this device could be adapted to produce the other gasses, or did he.

Quote:

568,177 Apparatus for Producing Ozone

In my present improvement I have utilized appliances of this general character under conditions and in combination with certain instrumentalities, hereinafter described, which enable me to produce, without difficulty and at very slight expense, ozone in any desired quantities.

I would state the apparatus which I have devised for this purpose is capable of other and highly important uses of a similar nature, but for the purposes of the present case I deem it sufficient to describe its operation and effects when used for the purpose of generating ozone.

End Quote

It must be remembered Tesla wanted to burn/combust atmospheric nitrogen, and successful in doing so, the frequency and potential of the current required for this was hundreds of times greater than those required for the production of ozone.

In the open atmosphere the circuit in this patent 568,177 produces ozone, in a different environment.....

The bifilar winding is very special arrangement.  It was around long before the birth of Tesla, he was simply the one to recognize its importance and significance in the sphere of electricity.  Its true power and purpose can only be demonstrated when it is properly wound, and placed in a circuit specifically designed for its use, and therein lies the problem.  There are too many theories as to the bifilar coils purpose!


Regards"

 Shall I continue?

 ok then:

 "You are the first person I have seen who like myself refers to CEMF as the soul of the machine, and who seems to have found what I have found, but in a different manner.  Namely, you appear to be demonstrating the blending of the  two special case voltage and current sources, special case because they have the ability to seemingly overcome any impedance offered to them.  Specifically, you have a voltage source that overcomes impedance combined with a current source which overcomes impedance.  You are combining the voltage generated by an inductors opposition to change in current, with the current generated by a capacitors opposition to changes in voltage. It feels good seeing you do this, and doing so with relays.  I don't think folks really appreciate or realize what you are showing, I do, and am glad to finally see someone else doing it.  I think Ismael Aviso was one of the first to do something similar, but he never showed anyone any specifics.


Keep up the excellent work.


Edit....for those who don't know...this is what the Tesla Ozone patent demonstrates....sorry for going off topic...


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7751 on: January 27, 2017, 05:57:36 PM »
Stanley Meyer completed what Tesla omitted.

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« Reply #7752 on: January 27, 2017, 06:23:05 PM »

You don't need my permission....


While you are at it, pull up everything everyone has posted on the subject since 2006 and fill up the rest of Stefan's space, I dont give a shit...LOL

 Thats ok you are the one filling up space. How many times did you reply to post with only emoji's?

 In all of your posts not one proof has been supplied. Not that I don't think along the lines of your thinking. I am highly content with Tesla's experiments which I have intermittently proven to myself. As for proving it to others, I am trying to get all of it together and coherent with proof of the experiments. It takes quite a while to unprogram myself from the traditional electronics I learned to work on consumer electronics. I still find myself going back to the established theories only to find that they don't work for this new Technique.

 But for you there is a certain enjoyment from taunting others in the attempt to talk about Tesla. You taunt them instead of teach them. You belittle them, All the while showing no demonstration of your understanding by all of your previous posts. Not one link to anything that proves your theory.

 In my attempt to educate I try to go back to the words of Tesla as the source and so do you but then thats where you stop. I on the other hand am working to first educate and get the ball rolling for others to think about these experiments and understand the methods fully so they can replicate it with understanding. You on the other hand say you have done the work without providing one proof of that work as you are requiring of me. Going back through all of your posts not one link provided by you has been posted of that work. Although you have stated you have demonstrated that already. Where is that link that you have provided as you have stated?

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7753 on: January 27, 2017, 08:31:27 PM »
In all of your posts not one proof has been supplied.

In his last youtube presentation, among other several things erfinder showed that acceleration under the load is possible.

To show your worth, can you present another method of acceleration under load?

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« Reply #7754 on: January 27, 2017, 08:57:01 PM »

The correct answer is


B.  cap


Everyone I have asked got it wrong.....  Why do I consider the cap the fulcrum of the system?

First of all thank you for pushing us to deeper levels of understanding. Your contribution is so valuable to many of us!

You have already spoken about two mechanisms of storage. I see them both in this patent. I feel that you point to the condition that it needs for the flawless transfer of energy between the two different in quality storages. I think I understand why you don't care about tuning right here. We just want to transfer energy in one shot. We don't care about series resonance as we want to avoid oscillations. All the energy has to change storage in one single shot. The objective is for the less capacitive reactance.  Is that true?