Someone needs to take a basic physics course (thermodynamics 101) before theoretically “validating” the results of no-matter-what simulations.

This thread is another big disappointment but no bigger than others.
Ask for real proofs and watch out for empty words: your mind is about to be indoctrinated.

Sorry guys,
Good luck!

No, I don't think so. You don't know all variables involved. Once you actually build the device
you will discover so many more variables that is affecting the final outcome.
So far there is only your own claims on this. Until there is successful and independent replications I stay undecided.
It's clear to yourself in your own imaginary mathematical world.
I will stand by my opinion of you not really having covered all variables in your mathematics.
It's not very serious or clever to state OU by an homemade unverified formula without having any hardware.
I'm 100% sure you've got nothing going on here.

Someone needs to take a basic physics course (thermodynamics 101) before theoretically “validating” the results of no-matter-what simulations.

This thread is another big disappointment but no bigger than others.
Ask for real proofs and watch out for empty words: your mind is about to be indoctrinated.

Boy, the negs are sure out in full force. What does that mean? 

PL

p.s., You're try to hard, negs.

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Small signal semiconductor modeling mathematics using the best know physics equations, which is based on quantum physics, clearly shows that diodes *must* rectify ambient thermal energy. Even the acclaimed genious, Mike Engelhardt, creator of the LTspice for the large corporation Linear Technology Inc, has said that I am correct that the mathematics shows diodes would rectify Johnson noise.

Has and is humanity being bamboozled, slight of hand guidance? Oh these people hate me with a passion. They can continue threatening me in private all they wish. I will never give up until I'm buried 6 feet under!

PL

Here is the solid-state design, Free Energy design #3 -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=201.0

Hopefully legit researchers will save this image just to be safe. If for some reason my tune suddenly changes, then please verify my IP to see if it originates near LAX airport in southern California. My emails contain my IP address by means of Google email. You can use a simple online tool such as -->
http://www.geoiptool.com
to find the nearest location. Too many insane people around the world corrupted from power, $. The only reason for saying this now is because the house phone has been ringing at various different hours lately. Who knows, it could be a common thief, as that's a known method to see if there's any pattern when people are home. So, the method of capturing ambient thermal energy is outlined at my forum. It's straight forward. That will not change.

PL

PaulLowrance

Design 3  looks interesting to  me.

I think that the hard part about getting it to work  would be in the coil switching  circuits.  '

What about  simplifying it  by using  a high and  a low voltage  like in the  the water arc threads?
Why not collect  the HV  as  flyback  from another  coil?.  .........or maybe flyback from  your  driving coils

The LV would be in effect a bias  voltage  on the coils to set up  a magnetic field in  your cores for the HV to " kick"

This  might be easier to do than I originally  thought .,     What  happens  when you  drive  your   input  coils with a simple saw tooth  waveform?

gary

Hi Craigy,

In my time i have had the privilege of talking to a phd in physics about carnot engines and amoungst other things Steorns Orbo. It is interesting to note that Pauls train of thought is not far removed from the subject of this chat i had over 2 years ago about possible mechanisims to expalin the workings of an orbo. At this time we had not had the confirmation from Steorn that there were Not enough Magnetiocalorific effects to account for what was being observed.

It's not possible to know how much energy is exchanged during Magnetocaloric effect from just a change in temperature. One would also need to know the change in specific heat capacity due to the change in magnetic field, which would make a significant difference at ambient temperature (so-called thermal equilibrium). Lets consider an example of magnetic material below Curie temperature at ambient temperature. When the magnetic field is applied, potential energy is released, but most (not all) of such energy goes into various areas such as the lattices, magnetocrystalline anisotropy, etc. Even though there's a significant release of potential energy with the increase in applied magnetic field, most of it's not translated into a change in temperature. If Steorn said the equated energy from Magnetocaloric effect is insufficient, and they made no reference to taking sensitive specific heat capacity measurements, then such information is unfortunately meaningless.

What you have described below is the essence of the write up which I gave you. What is not described is what happens next. The state of the stator has to be "reset" in order for it to attract the next rotor magnet in. This happens by the action of thermal energy. After the escape, the stator magnet is in a highly structured state. Unless it is reset into a more random state, it cannot pull in the next rotor magnet. A good analogy is an ice cube floating in water. The ice cube is structured. The water molecules bang into it and gradually break down the structure, until eventually all the structure is gone. Afterwards, the entire mass of the water is COLDER  - this is the physical consequence of breaking down the structure. One could make up all kinds of fancy thermodynamic equations to represent this, but if you use the water and ice analogy it is intuitively obvious that the action of breaking down the structure results in a reduction in temperature.
 
Because you get a huge amount of mechanical energy fom a small amount of heat, then the temperature change may be hardly noticeable at first. Especially if the context is a motor with a large area rotating and moving air around, heat will be exchanged with the air and that will warm the stator so that it is reset for the next activity.
  If what we are describing is an Orbo device, it is certainly not free energy. On the other hand it could be a really useful contrivance which might change the course of human history. If Steorn could be persuaded to  accept that they have a new class of heat engine, then the world could get on with a powerful new tool to fight global warming.

I'm not sure what type of device you're describing there. If the device captures energy from ambient thermal energy per cycle, then it would definitely violate the 2nd laws of thermodynamics.

The most well known class of heat engine is the Carnot cycle, which uses two heat reservoirs and extracts mechanical energy as heat moves from one to the other. The device which we are discussing instead has a built in temperature reference, which is the temperature below which magnetic viscosity stops working. Left to operate in say, a Dewar flask, the device will operate until the rotor is cooled to that temperature and then stop. If you provide heat and warm up the rotor, it will carry on working.
This does not seem to violate any of the laws of thermodynamics, and it involves conservation of energy. (But it is a new class of heat engine which did not exist before) It could be amazingly useful - I still find this incredible to contemplate, but one of these motors equipped with a fan would keep going indefinitely, pulling heat out of the atmosphere as it tried to achieve its built in equilibrium temperature.
So there you have it , a man far more qualified than humble little me , ( and more eloquent)  can see a device such as paul describes is posible. Although we are not talking about a true free energy machine since it is taking energy from a known source it is close enough for me...lol

We must be talking about two different devices. In reference to my Free Energy devices (1 through 3), they would produce continuous power 24 hours per day, 365 days per year at any hospitable location on Earth while *not* requiring any macro scale temperature gradients. That is called a perpetual motion machine of the 2nd kind, and clearly violates the 2nd laws of thermodynamics.  May I ask what device you were referring to?


PL

Notes on BH curves: The BH curve of magnetic material drastically changes from one extreme of an open magnetic loop (e.g., a rod) to the other extreme of a completely closed magnetic loop (e.g., toroid). For most non-PM magnetic materials, the BH curve is relatively flat (linear, not square) for completely open cores such as a rod, but the same material formed in a toroid could have a BH curve well over 90% square. For cores with high permeability, even the slightest air gap in two U shaped cores will most likely produce a flat BH curve, but when pressed *tightly* together to form a solid closed core could show a square curve. Only materials with extremely high coercivity such as PM's have a square BH curve even when the rod length to diameter ratio is low.

The same applies to *effective* permeability. For example, a Metglas material may have an effective permeability of 80000 in toroid shape (close magnetic loop), but may have an effective permeability of just 6 in the shape of a short rod.

PL

Paul,

I cannot understand the rational that you are too busy to build a device as you describe that would essentially give you the rest of your life off
if you sold the prototype that ¨works¨

Ofcourse you must be too busy with your diode array as you say, however something does not add up to my thinking ?

Cheers

Dean

This is too funny. I hope legit people are taking note to all of the potshots.

Anyhow, the answer is simple. The mathematics for the magnetic research has shown it's most likely very difficult to overcome the losses. Diode research is a guarantee! The diode arrays are considered infinite efficiency since no voltage source is required.

All that's left is to come up with an inexpensive easy method of making semiconductor fabrication equipment that anyone could build to make their own diode array *chips* that could power their home and beyond. They could be the hero of the block by selling inexpensive chips to the neighbor.

PL

Also I thought that oxidizing the copper would be a good idea, but that's probably a bad idea because even the slightest exposed steel would begin to oxidize.

So far the acrylic paint seems best. It dries within minutes. It's flexible and tough.

PL