Author Topic: Magnetic "Free Energy" designs released - finally! (Read 34891 times)

tak22 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 20, 2009, 06:06:45 PM »

I agree, proof is of first importance. If a solenoid is fast enough, then it could be used for
either design to create the back/forth motion. Once you've got the timing set, then start
measuring either temperature or coil output. After a baseline is established you can start
trying different materials, coils, etc.

tak

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #31 on:** January 20, 2009, 07:11:59 PM »

Quote from: tak22 on January 20, 2009, 06:06:45 PM

I agree, proof is of first importance. If a solenoid is fast enough, then it could be used for
either design to create the back/forth motion. Once you've got the timing set, then start
measuring either temperature or coil output. After a baseline is established you can start
trying different materials, coils, etc.

tak

Thanks tak. You seem to have a good handle on such a task.

Some thoughts:

Making the black rods (high magnetic viscosity) -- A roll of carbon steel welding wire cut into segments, each coated with a thin layer of say paint, and then carefully grouped together to forum a laminated rod. Harbor Freight has a roll for $7 -->
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42917

The gray rod (low magnetic viscosity) could perhaps be cut from an *ultra* high frequency ferrite rod. Amidon sells ferrite rods. They're not exactly ultra high frequency, but should be good enough; e.g., Amidon part number R61-050-400 costs $7
https://www.amidoncorp.com
Perhaps someone knows of higher performance ferrite rods. IMO, one of the best choices is a piece of magnetite, but it would have to be cut into shape. You'll find people at metal detecting forums who will sell magnetite real cheap.

The first mechanical design in moving the gray rod could be aggressive since efficiency is not the first concern, where decreasing the gray rods temperature is. If it takes a lawnmower motor to achieve the task, then so be it, lol. Success will go down in history. The machine will be displayed in a historical museum.

PL

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2009, 07:40:18 PM »

Quote from: Craigy on January 20, 2009, 12:34:45 AM

Thinking a bit more i see that in your 2 disc design everything switches or fires at once and all coils would essentially be wired in parrallel thus avoiding messy contacts that would be required on my brainstorming idea.

The coil for the gray rod will most likely require different amount of current than the black rods. Hopefully it would not take too long to adjust the currents to obtain optimum temperature drop.

PL

Craigy · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2009, 07:54:48 PM »

hi Paul.

I found this patent a year or so ago, when i was first looking at carnot cycles and magnets and their currie temps . It basically backs you ideas up, but does it in a slightly different way , in the patent there is a circulating ferro fluid...

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6725668&id=mS8QAAAAEBAJ&pg=RA1-PA1&dq=+magneto+calorific+effect+in+magnets#PPA1-IA1,M1

Thermodynamic cycles and method for generating electricity

Abstract
An apparatus for performing a thermodynamic cycle comprising: a sample having a ferromagnetic phase transition temperature; means to magnetise the sample above the ferromagnetic phase transition temperature of the sample; and means to cool the sample to a temperature that is below the ferromagnetic phase transition temperature thereof, wherein the demagnetisation of the sample whilst the sample is below the ferromagnetic phase transition temperature thereof causes the generation of an independent magnetic flux. Also disclosed is a method of converting energy, comprising the steps of: providing a sample having a ferromagnetic transition temperature; magnetising the sample while the sample is above the ferromagnetic transition temperature thereof; allowing the sample to demagnetise while the sample is below the ferromagnetic transition temperature thereof, the demagnetisation of the sample causing an independent magnetic flux; and converting at least some of the independent magnetic...

tak22 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 20, 2009, 07:58:04 PM »

Paul,

Is solid magnetite a must have? Could a DIY cast rod of magnetite sand and resin work well enough?

tak

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:03:39 PM »

Hi Craigy,

Ferrofluids are great. In the magnetic database area of my forum there's a ferrofluid thread that contains a bunch of videos of ferrofluids. It's amazing stuff. In conventionaly physics, ferrofluid is considered superparamagnetic.

I wonder how how much magnetic viscosity ferrofluids would have. ... It's not that difficult to make the stuff. See the ferrofluid thread for a video that shows you how to make it -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?board=35.0

PL

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:11:06 PM »

Quote from: tak22 on January 20, 2009, 07:58:04 PM

Paul,

Is solid magnetite a must have? Could a DIY cast rod of magnetite sand and resin work well enough?

tak

There should be a lot of different materials that would work. I don't know, maybe I'm a bit biased in this because of the years spent designing GPR's for gold nugget hunting, so I love magnetite. Although natural occurring magnetite varies a great deal in permeability. Typically it has a permeability of around 25000, but what makes it great for ultra high frequency is that it's ultra high electrical resistivity, even at the atomic scale. One of my old metal detecting friends once told me that the magnetic material found in the electron deflecting gun in CRT's is even better.

As you described, taking fine magnetite powder and then compacting that into a *small* amount of bonding agent to form a rod could work. The only difficulty would be in compressing it enough to achieve sufficient magnetic density.

PL

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:14:41 PM »

BTW, magnetite is Fe3O4. Rather than using a PM to grab some from the backyard, it's probably better to buy some from a chemical lab. Not sure about now, but it used to be dirt cheap, no pun intended.

PL

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:26:50 PM »

One reason for not grabbing some magnetite from the backyard is because you have to be careful not to get hematite (Fe2O3), which is magnetically weak. I guess if the PM was placed high enough from the dirt, that only the magnetite would fly up to the PM, and thus most of the material would be magnetite, hopefully.

PL

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #39 on:** January 20, 2009, 11:42:40 PM »

Here's a new animation and the thoughts behind the new design #1 v4c

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=198.msg525#msg525

PL

X00013 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 21, 2009, 06:21:12 AM »

custom ferrite rods http://www.magneticsgroup.com/ inquire about cut offs

not a bad read if ur into path yields the highest effective permeability and lowest flux leakage of any shape. http://www.ferronics.com/catalog/Toroids.pdf

and for the hard metal http://www.mumetal.com/index.html , one of the best companys around that will treat you like a person, even for small orders, again, ask about cut off's.

I hope my non sense helps and good luck.

X00013 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 21, 2009, 06:22:13 AM »

oops, i forgot to mention , if i new what country u were in i could save u on shippn,

Ergo · « **Reply #42 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:38:53 PM »

The topic of this thread is "Magnetic "Free Energy" designs released - finally!"
At great interest I started reading and hoped the topic was true for once.

But I was sadly disappointed by Pauls initial post.
As usual it was just somebodys imagination and thoughts that was posted.

It wasn't the real deal with hard facts and real blueprints on a confirmed overunity device.
The chanses of this proposal really being overunity is nill and zilch.

Sorry Paul, stick to your diode array idea. $:-\$

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 17, 2009, 08:06:01 PM

I have hesitated to release my "free energy" magnetic designs because out of nearly 7 billion people there are too many insane thugs out there. I just wanted to be safe, no risks, build them one day without anyone knowing that they're being built, and then hit the world with the extreme detailed documentation and videos using the guaranteed distribution method I've outlined at my forum, but that day will probably never arrive since I'm far too involved in diode array stuff. So perhaps one day soon, someone will build it, and with some hard work it will eventually work.

Anyhow, this may sound like theoretical stuff, but I've spent too much time on the magnetic theory to know better. Numerical analysis mathematics using conventional physics clearly shows an energy gain. There is just no getting around it! My magnetic theory, based on conventional physics mathematics, clearly shows where the energy comes from (ambient thermal energy), and how the device captures such energy. The only difficulty is in overcoming losses from friction, etc.

Here's Free Energy design #1 -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=164.0

Hopefully in a few weeks I'll create the animation for designs #2 and #3 and release them.

PL

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #43 on:** January 21, 2009, 04:09:01 PM »

Quote from: Ergo on January 21, 2009, 01:38:53 PM

The topic of this thread is "Magnetic "Free Energy" designs released - finally!"
At great interest I started reading and hoped the topic was true for once.
But I was sadly disappointed by Pauls initial post.
As usual it was just somebodys imagination and thoughts that was posted.
It wasn't the real deal with hard facts and real blueprints on a confirmed overunity device.
The chanses of this proposal really being overunity is nill and zilch.
Sorry Paul, stick to your diode array idea. $:-\$

Boy, the negs are sure out attacking this one. Perhaps my mathematics is spot on.

The prediction made according to my diode mathematics was correct that diodes *must* rectify ambient thermal energy. I'm one for one, so I deserve a chance to see if my magnetic theory is correct. For design #1, the mathematics is so simple and clear that I don't see how it could be incorrect.

BTW, I've never released my magnetic "free energy" designs before, just examples so as to understand the theory.

PL

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #44 on:** January 21, 2009, 04:15:02 PM »

Ferrofluid is a good idea actually, and I would predict that some recipes could have extraordinarily high magnetic viscosity if the magnetic particles are large enough. Ferrofluid is often made with magnetic powder and oil mixed together. Each magnetic particle in the powder must have a non-magnetic layer, so the magnetic particles do not clump together. My advice is not to make the magnetic viscosity too high, otherwise it will be so slow that the copper wire will have too much electrical resistance for such a low frequency, but a good copper coil should be able to handle down to at least 60Hz, so it's highly unlikely the ferrofluid would have that much magnetic viscosity.

The only drawback to ferrofluid is low permeability, but just how low is unknown.

Some videos on ferrofluids:
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=181.0

PL

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