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nievesoliveras

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #120 on: October 14, 2008, 03:28:20 PM »
Hi!

Look at this idea.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #121 on: October 14, 2008, 04:07:40 PM »
Hello,
Seeing the video the magnet doesn't seem to be 2 cm diameter but smaller ...
what do you ?

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #122 on: October 15, 2008, 02:46:29 AM »
Hi!

If the magnet you have is not the right measure. Just put it in line with four other to get the diameter of the ring.
Study drawing on post #101.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #123 on: October 15, 2008, 03:50:46 AM »
“I hope you understood
- Well, seems you still did not get it…
Line B (and angle 90) depend on sizes of magnets. But because scale of magnet is wrong, the angles wrong too. Got it? Make a drawing (not a sketch) and figure out for yourself…

“Look at this idea.
- That’s rite; when you have breakage in the flux it runs like crazy, but only in the circle between ends (dead "points").
Tried to figure out which rotor’s magnet angle more effective – ceramic stator magnets and 45 and 80 degrees on rare rotor’s. More powerful turn is with 80dgr (see attach).
But it’s not critical, it won’t turn when circle of magnets is closed; until  to do something with magnetic fields, fluxes.

That’s rite, renaud67; and on post #101 it’s not 20mm neither (if it 20mm, the thickness - 5mm, has to be only four times in diameter, not 8-10). Discussing anything but original (WORKING) design…

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #124 on: October 15, 2008, 08:27:32 AM »
Hi Duane,

I'm glad to help. I just wish I had more time to invest directly in this project but for now, I am forced to serve as a liaison for Juan to publish information.

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #125 on: October 15, 2008, 08:29:25 AM »
Hi Everyone,

Juan sent me some information that he wanted me to publish on the thread so here it is. At first glance, it appears to contain a lot of useful technical details about the construction of the motor. But it is all in Spanish and I don't have enough time to translate it anytime soon so I'm posting it here now in its raw form and hope that some of the spanish-speaking participants can give us a translation of it:

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magnetic mill (unidad de repelencia magnetica o molino magnetico) creado y diseñado por juan carlos aviles moran   
email  manueljose_888@hotmail.com


 Exposicion del proyecto unidad de repelencia magnetica

composicion molecular de imanes artificiales o aleacion(campos magneticos aumentados o magnificados) = fuerza de torsion y velocidad


Exposicion del proyecto unidad de repelencia magnetica
nuestro proposito es la construccion e implementacion del nuevo sistema de energia alternativa Unidad de Repelencia Magnetica (URM) este aparato ) este aparato debido a la simpleza de su estructura, es fácil de construir dando una rápida respuesta a la necesidad energética, de manera ilimitada, limpia y sin consumo de otra energía que no venga de su misma operación.

La URM, se situara en primera posición sobre los demás medios alternativos de generar energía, como lo son los combustibles fósiles, los biocombustibles y las mezclas, la URM no contamina el ambiente, al no despedir gases tóxicos, este aparato utilizara simplemente dos tipos de distintas fuerzas combinadas, que son: la CRM(CASCADA DE REPELENCIA MAGNETICA) y la FC (FUERZA CENTRIFUGA).

También este proyecto esta sobre los demás métodos alternativos de energía limpia como lo son la solar, térmica, geotérmica, hidroeléctrica, eólica, mecánica marítima, etc. Estos métodos están sujetos a las variables condiciones climáticas, desgaste de materiales por estar sometidos a temperaturas extremas. La URM, tiene la capacidad de evitar el desgaste de sus propias piezas, por crear un campo de repelencia magnética entre sus piezas importantes, prolongando su vida útil por esa condición.

DETALLES DEL DISEÑO TEORICO:
La URM consta de un aro u orbital firmemente sujeto a una base, el diámetro del aro esta relacionado proporcionalmente al tamaño de los escudos (ERM) que se encuentran predispuestos unidireccionalmente en su interior. Esta sucesión de escudos deben estar todos emplazados en dirección de un mismo polo, todos negativos o positivos.

La hélice magnética (HM) que gira sujeta a su propio eje en el interior del aro, consta en sus extremos de escudos o magnetos de cara a cara casi rozándose con los escudos predispuestos en el aro, para que gire esta hélice, los escudos del interior del aro como los del extremo de la hélice deben de repelerse mutuamente, es decir, mismos signos se repelen; iniciándose inmediatamente una fuerza de repelencia entre los escudos que hacen que la hélice gire en una misma dirección, después de esta primera fuerza se inicia una segunda fase de FC que según sea las dimensiones y peso de los escudos en los extremos de la hélice, dará un incremento en las revoluciones o giros. Lo anterior, proporcionara una fuerza de torque en el eje de la hélice que es la fuerza resultante que usaremos para mover cualquier dinamo o motor generador de energía eléctrica, quedándonos con la opción de obtener un porcentaje de energía eléctrica extra al conectarla de retorno al aro y así inducirles a los escudos mayor fuerza de repelencia. La URM tiene la capacidad única de autoalimentarse de su misma energía de descarga y convertirla en mayor energía de repelencia para los escudos.

La URM no es capaz de generar energía eléctrica por sí misma, pero si de ejecutar por medio de la repelencia magnética un movimiento mecánico que es el de rotar su hélice obteniendo una fuerza de torque según sus dimensiones, pureza de escudos y porcentaje de carga de su descarga.

COMPOSICION QUIMICA DE LOS MATERIALES
Es importante mencionar que la materia prima básica de la cual estarán compuestos nuestro escudos reflectores repelentes son el hierro de máxima densidad molecular, siendo algunos de ellos los mas idóneos el acero manganeso o acero tuxteno, también el mineral de hierro llamado piedra imam (Fe3O4) así como los derivados de la magnetita.

Los escudos reflectores, deben estar fabricados de una alta pureza metálica, para que tengan mayor repelencia al momento de provocar la cascada magnética de repelencia.

Todo este ejercicio de ingeniería nace de aplicar las leyes físicas, moleculares y químicas a las que están sujetas los materiales de la URM. La URM surge de una comparación con el molino de agua, haremos de cuenta que este aparato es un molino en que la corriente de energía no se pierde en ningún momento sino que rodea por completo el molino, cerrando un círculo infinito al que llamaremos cascada de repelencia magnética, la cual viene a constituir el combustible de la URM.

Significados: URM Unidad Repelencia Magnética; HM Hélice Magnética; Aro o Círculo; ERM Escudo de Repelencia Magnética; CRM Cascada de Repelencia Magnética"


Thats all.

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #126 on: October 15, 2008, 08:41:27 AM »
More from Juan. I think these excerpts he e-mailed me came from comment pages he responded to on his videos:

"La unidad de repelencia magnetica U.R.M creada y diseñada por juan carlos Aviles Moran es el medio alternativo de generar electricidad de manera muy economica la U.R.M es un molino de repelencia magnetica que potencia o hace girar el eje de un dinamo. Fue en 1980 que juan carlos aviles moran desarrolla los usos de campos magneticos magnificados entre imanes de misma polaridad magnetica.

la unidad de repelencia magnetica u.r.m o molino de repelencia magnetica m.r.m es un sistema alternativo de producir energia electrica y es muy facil de construir dando una solucion a la crisis energetica mundial; la u.r.m funciona con los mismos principios que un molino de agua (hidro-electrica) o de viento (eolica-electrica) pero en la u.r.m el molino se movera por fuerza de repelencia magnetica (magnetorepelencia-electrica)

Juan Carlos Aviles Moran descubre el fenomeno fisico llamado cascada de repelencia magnetica este consiste en una fuerza de repelencia magnetica unidireccionalmente encausada dentro del aro de la unidad de repelencia magnetica o molino de repelencia magnetica; la cascada de repelencia magnetica no es mas que un sendero de repelencia continua por donde transitan los imanes del eje rotor de la U.R.M al ser repelidos por los imanes del aro; cascada de repelencia magnetica seria por ejemplo la energia de choque del agua en un molino comun"


Also, here's a link to a Photobucket-like site where He is posting diagrams and photos from replicators: http://energije.com/

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #127 on: October 15, 2008, 11:15:37 AM »
Hi!

If the magnet you have is not the right measure. Just put it in line with four other to get the diameter of the ring.
Study drawing on post #101.

Jesus
hello,
it means we just have to get a good ratio between the diameter and thickness of the magnet and the size of the ring?

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #128 on: October 15, 2008, 01:00:28 PM »
First, since this is my first post here I want to say hello to all people here! ... well ... hello :)
I wanted to explain about following ...
Also, here's a link to a Photobucket-like site where He is posting diagrams and photos from replicators: http://energije.com/
it's my website/blog about alternative energy sources for Serbian language speaking people. Photos you can see there are from e-mails I received from mr. Manuel. I thought those are from his working prototipes but now I see there are few photos from people arround here. If they don't want these photos to be published I will remove them. I thought those are all his photos.
Like others I'm having dificulties communicating with mr. Manuel ... and so far I have nothing much better than you already sad here ... but if anything new technical is reveiled I will share gladly!
Sorry if my english is confusing!
Regards
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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #129 on: October 15, 2008, 05:57:55 PM »
Hi!

@renaud67
For the magnets to be inside the ring with a perfect fitting it is supposed to have a good ratio between the diameter and thickness of the magnet and the size of the ring. You got it.
Now I may be wrong though. There is a lot of confusing information circulating.  Use your better judgement!

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #130 on: October 15, 2008, 06:42:42 PM »
Hi All

Here is the translation, although there is Spanish running in my veins from way back as well as aboriginal amognst others (you could call  me a Heinz 57 and I wouldn't be insulted!) this translation is from Google  ;D

Interesting though that this is from Juan Carlos Aviles Moran who discovered the cascade of physical phenomenon called magnetic repellency back in 1980!

Exhibition of draft unit magnetic repellency

molecular composition of artificial magnets or alloys (magnetic fields increased or magnified) = torsion strength and speed


Exhibition of draft unit magnetic repellency
Our purpose is the construction and implementation of the new system of alternative energy Repellency Magnetica Unit (MRU) this device) this device due to the simplicity of its structure, it is easy to construct giving a rapid response to the need energy, so limitless, clean and without consumption of other energy that does not come from the same operation.

The MRU was placed in first position on the other alternative means of generating energy, such as fossil fuels, biofuels and blends, the MRU does not pollute the environment, not to lay off toxic fumes, this device uses just two types of various combined forces, which are: the CRM (WATERFALL repellents MAGNETIC) and FC (CENTRIFUGAL FORCE).

Also this project is on the other alternative methods of clean energy such as solar, thermal, geothermal, hydroelectric, wind, marine engineering, and so on. These methods are subject to the variable weather conditions, wear of materials being subjected to extreme temperatures. The MRU has the ability to avoid the erosion of their own pieces, by creating a magnetic field repellency between its major pieces, extending its life by this condition.

DETAILS OF THEORETICAL DESIGN:
The MRU consists of an orbital rim or firmly attached to a base, the diameter of the ring is related proportionally to the size of the shields (ERM) who are predisposed unidirectional in its interior. This succession of shields must all be located in the direction of a single pole, negative or positive.

The magnetic propeller (HM), which revolves subject to its own axis inside the ring, consists of shields at the ends of magnets or face to face with almost rozándose shields predisposed to the hoop, to turn the propeller, the coats of inside the ring as of the end of the propeller must repel each other, ie signs repel them, starting immediately a force of repellency between the coats that make the propeller rotate in one direction, after this initial force begins A second phase of FC that as the size and weight of the shields at the ends of the propeller, will give an increase in revolutions or money orders. This, to provide a force of torque on the propeller shaft that is the resultant force we use to move any motor or dynamo electric generator, staying with the option to obtain a percentage of extra power when connected to return to ring and thereby induce them to the greatest force shields repellency. The MRU has the unique ability of its self-same energy and discharge it into higher energy repellency to the shields.

The MRU is not capable of generating electricity itself, but if you run through the magnetic repellency a mechanical movement which is to rotate its propeller getting a force of torque according to its size, purity and shields percentage of cargo downloading.

CHEMICAL COMPOSITION OF THE MATERIALS
It is important to mention that the basic raw material of which shall be composed our shields reflectors repellents are the iron of high molecular density, some of them being the most suitable manganese steel or steel tuxteno, also known as iron ore stone imam (Fe3O4) as well as those arising from the magnetite.

Shields reflectors, must be manufactured from a high purity metal, to have more repellency when provoke the cascade of magnetic repellency.

This whole exercise is born engineer to apply the laws of physics, molecular and chemical properties that are subject to the materials of the MRU. The MRU emerges from a comparison with the water mill, we will make note that this device is a mill in which the flow of energy is not lost at any time but completely surrounds the mill, closing a circle that we call the infinite cascade Magnetic repellency, which is to be the fuel of the MRU.

Meanings: MRU Unit Repellency Magnetic; HM Magnetic Helix; Aro or Circle; Repellency Magnetic Shield ERM, CRM Waterfall Repellency Magnetic "

"The unit of magnetic repellency MRU created and designed by Juan Carlos Aviles Moran is the alternative means of generating electricity in a very economical the MRU is a mill or repellency magnetic power that turns the shaft of a dynamo. He was in 1980 that juan Carlos Avila moran develops uses magnetic fields between magnets magnified magnetic polarity.

the unit of magnetic repellency MRU mill or repellency magnetic MRM is an alternative to producing electricity and is very easy to build by giving a solution to the energy crisis worldwide, the MRU works with the same principles as a water mill (hydro - Electric) or wind (wind-power) but in the MRU the mill will move by magnetic force repellency (magnetorepelencia-electric)

Juan Carlos Aviles Moran discovered the cascade of physical phenomenon called magnetic repellency this is a unidirectional magnetic force repellency carried inside the rim of the unit of magnetic or repellency mill magnetic repellency, the cascade of magnetic repellency is nothing more than a trail of repellency by continuing where the magnets pass the rotor shaft of the MRU to be repelled by the ring magnets; cascade of such serious repellency magnetic energy shock of water in a windmill THE COMMON "

Regards;
Paul

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #131 on: October 15, 2008, 07:07:52 PM »
Hi all !

Quit this setup cause, although it might work for inventor, replication is difficult allmost impossible.
You need exact same dimmensions, most of all exact same strenght of magnets (if not - distances from mags are different)
and material coating... there is no explanation of principle of work.
If it works It is over 100% luck. - when it happens go and play lottery.

Many other things has much more chance of succeeding.

Wiz

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #132 on: October 15, 2008, 07:55:17 PM »
Can someone please tell this moron to stop posting the same video over and over again on youtube or get his ip banned on it. This retard is starting to piss me off big time.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #133 on: October 16, 2008, 02:16:38 AM »
Thanks for the translation Goat!
Can someone ask Juan what the outer ring is made of? Is it metal, plastic or wood?
Also in the translation Juan talks about some sort of shields????  Quote "...consists of shields at the ends of magnets..." On what, the rotor...stator...or BOTH?
Are the shields at the end of the magnets the secret to making it rotate? Sort of a oneway street for the rotor magnets to follow without getting hung up.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #134 on: October 16, 2008, 04:50:06 AM »
You probably rite, Wiz, but what kind of “other things” do you mean?

Thks, Goat.
“…the diameter of the ring is related proportionally to the size of the shields…The magnetic propeller consists of shields at the ends of magnets
- So, we have a “shields” now. Can’t see it on video, but it’s completely different story; PERENDEV has shields too, and angles, and special alloy for shield. I’ve tried something like that (see attach) but not successfully – again needa know details – what kind of material for shield (I’ve used mild steel, wrong), its dimensions, setup, etc.
Hope with HIS help we’ll get it somehow…
Maybe we need something like that (attach, red color).