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paraipan

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2008, 06:49:25 AM »
???

No luck. The rotor does not spin.

More info is needed.

~Dan

you`re trying to build one or bust the myth. ?  ;D  you remember me of that Mythbusters episode when they were trying to bust the Bedini motor but without the coils

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2008, 07:00:40 AM »
This is my first post and I feel disgusted with you guys because instead of making your little big magnetic motors or something you`re jerking off with ricky`s gay videos,
the ideea of the permanent magnet motor is not new in fact there is an inventor in china right now who has an almost identic model and they are giving him goverment support and funds. I would speak with this guy in spanish if it helps you build working models of this motor.
Ah and yes I`m from Spain. Keep up the good work. Thanks

Hello Paraipan:

It's good to have enthusiasm, but I already had a chat with this guy via msn and is not at all easy to follow him even for a native spanish talker (I am from Chile). I intend to have more chats with him as I have no reason to doubt of his honesty, but getting him to share design details with accuracy is very difficult. I'd post the chat I had with him if you are interested, I saved it as a way to keep a record of our talk, but is not very usefull.

Regards.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #62 on: October 04, 2008, 07:17:40 AM »
I don`t want to see your chat logs man you already gave me all the info I needed to build this one. It`s simple and easy to build at greater scale altough it will work as long as the magnets last

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2008, 12:52:20 AM »
Hello All,

I'm currently chatting with the inventor now and he gave me a couple more pictures to post. here they are:

(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Juan%20Carlos%20Magnet%20Motor%20Pics/a11.png)

(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Juan%20Carlos%20Magnet%20Motor%20Pics/a12.png)

More to come...

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2008, 01:10:14 AM »
Here's some more info from Juan:

aro = ring  , diametro del aro relacionado proporcionalmente a los imanes en su interior , angulo de imanes del aro 90 grados angulo de imanes en el eje 95 grados. Aro  puede ser una solo pieza con los imanes en su interior no necesariamente imanes y aro ser distintas piezas.

unidad de repelencia magnetica o molino magnetico creado y diseñado por juan carlos aviles moran  desde 1989. basado en escritos de la biblioteca del serapeum.


I will translate this into English as soon we we finish chatting.

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Jason O

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2008, 01:23:41 AM »
Ok, here's another picture:

(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Juan%20Carlos%20Magnet%20Motor%20Pics/A14.png)

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Jason O

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2008, 01:32:07 AM »
More information from Juan:

"la repelencia magnetica como energia potenciadora es la energia de materia no masica. votice artificial creado por la unificacion de campos magneticos de igual polaridad contenidos en un aro u orbital los nazis obtubieron estos conocimientos de antiguo biblioteca del serapeum."

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« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2008, 01:55:53 AM »
and more:

"informacion del molino magnetico puede ser usado en interfase electrica , como vehiculo y tambien puede levitar. usos ilimitados. OVNI= OBJETO VOLADOR NO IDENTIFICADO = MODELO  MODERNO DE MOLINO MAGNETICO. molino magnetico puede ser usado de interfase electrica como vehiculo y tambien levita. aleciones especiales de mas de 70000 gaus"

"los extraterrestres no existen. los extraterrestres no existen solo existen naves circulares potenciadas por vortices artificiales magneticos"

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2008, 05:17:24 AM »
Translation of the two images:

(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Juan%20Carlos%20Magnet%20Motor%20Pics/a11Translated.png)

(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Juan%20Carlos%20Magnet%20Motor%20Pics/a12translated.png)

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Jason O

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #69 on: October 05, 2008, 08:07:45 AM »
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"la repelencia magnetica como energia potenciadora es la energia de materia no masica. votice artificial creado por la unificacion de campos magneticos de igual polaridad contenidos en un aro u orbital los nazis obtubieron estos conocimientos de antiguo biblioteca del serapeum."

Translation:

"The magnetic repulsion is like potential energy. It is the energy of the material not the mass. Artificial vortices are created by the unification of magnetic fields of the same polarity in an orbital ring. The Nazis obtained this knowledge from the ancient library of Serapeum."


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"informacion del molino magnetico puede ser usado en interfase electrica , como vehiculo y tambien puede levitar. usos ilimitados. OVNI= OBJETO VOLADOR NO IDENTIFICADO = MODELO  MODERNO DE MOLINO MAGNETICO. molino magnetico puede ser usado de interfase electrica como vehiculo y tambien levita. aleciones especiales de mas de 70000 gaus"

"los extraterrestres no existen. los extraterrestres no existen solo existen naves circulares potenciadas por vortices atificiales magneticos"

Translation:

"Information about the magnetic mill can be used in an electronic interface, sucj as vehicles and can also cause levitation. Unlimited use. UFO = Unidentified Flying Object = Model OF Modern Magnetic Mill. There are special magnets with more then 70,000 Gauss.

The aliens do not exist. There are no aliens existing only ships powered by circular artificial magnetic vortices."


If the original sounds a little funny, keep in mind that this was pasted together from the chat conversation I had with him.

Also I was able to glean some more details about the magnet motor in the video he posted. The magnets that he used were 2 cm dia x 0.5 cm thk (0.78" x 0.19"). Also, the ring that the magnets were mounted on was actually a cardboard tape roll! So just with this information alone, we can easily replicate this device. I just went to Home Depot earlier this evening and grabed up a few packs of ceramic disk magnets that just happened to be almost exactly the same size as the ones Juan used. They are 0.75" dia x 0.2" thk.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #70 on: October 05, 2008, 08:25:24 AM »
Here's the last picture. Almost forgot to translate it:

(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/Jdo300/Juan%20Carlos%20Magnet%20Motor%20Pics/A14translated.png)

His mention of the 90 and 95 degree angles don't make sense to me as I don't see what the reference point is. I'll try to ask him more about this if I talk to him again later on.

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Jason O

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #71 on: October 05, 2008, 06:17:38 PM »
Hi All,

My second attempt and still no luck.  The rotor does not spin.   ???

~Dan

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #72 on: October 05, 2008, 06:40:11 PM »
dan the man...   you do awsome work....


too bad you dont use square neos....  i think that may just solve the problem....

cheers


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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2008, 06:42:49 PM »
Hello Dansway!!!!

Incredible replications skills you have!!!!!!  :o

I would only say that without knowing the exact shape of the magnet polarization used by our Salvadorean friend, we are working blind. I'd say also that the magnets in the rotor should almost be parallel to the ones in the stator, as per Juan insistence on that fact.

I understood that he used "old radio magnets", and, in my experience, all radio magnets are from speakers, and all speaker magnets toroidally Magnetized. That also makes one of Juan's obscure theoretical points to make sense, if that's possible, when he refers to the fact that the magnet thickness is important because of the attraction it exerts (remember he says the magnets must be en repulsion mode).

Hope this helps.

ChileanOne

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2008, 06:45:46 PM »
Here is the picture I posted a while back in another thread

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/mpats.jpg)



I think the magnets Juan uses are radially magnetized, as per this Picture posted earlier in this thread by Clanzer.

Are your magnets of this kind, Dansway?

Regards.