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Author Topic: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !  (Read 430425 times)

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #615 on: August 31, 2007, 05:06:03 AM »
I dunno about the zinc regeneration thing, it seems that it would take more to regenerate than you could produce. :(  Are you working on a new cell, ResinRat2?

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« Reply #616 on: August 31, 2007, 04:44:20 PM »
Yes, cell is almost ready. I am switching to using a rubber stopper around both tungsten/carbide electrodes so I won't develop the continuous leaks that have been plaguing me all this time. It took a while to figure this one out. Plugging up the old holes, and drilling new ones is what I have been busy with.

My previous lab experiments showed it took less than a volt to regenerate the zinc. AirGen's own literature (airgencorp.com) shows it takes 0.95 volts to regenerate the zinc. The fuel cell should easily handle this voltage, but I have no amperage data. That will be determined in the next experiments.

All I can do is perform the experiments and see what results I get. That will show the truth of the matter. Until then, anything else is just optimistic or pessimistic speculation. I am optimistic because this reaction draws the energy from the environment and runs cold. That energy has to go somewhere;and I believe that is the excess energy that will be tapped. That will be our overunity.


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« Reply #617 on: August 31, 2007, 10:45:17 PM »
THIS IS JUST A JOKE but could someone show me how to make a water power car so the bad guys can put a gun to my head and say TAKE THE 20 MILLION OR ELSE, I could do with 20 mill.

Bullets are a lot cheaper?  Why would they pay you if they have a gun to your head.

Hey Dave, just checking in on progress.  Hang in there.

Even easier is to have the cops raid your home, and then serve you with legal notice that ensures that if you continue your experiments that you're evicted from the property. I speak from experience.

~Dingus Mungus

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #618 on: September 01, 2007, 01:33:13 AM »
ha ha cool.hey resinrat2 what ever  you do, never stop this experiment, not even for the billion [well maybe] because this is too important. some of the things big oil do is pretty crooked. thanks rozza

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« Reply #619 on: September 01, 2007, 03:37:54 AM »
OK roz,

I am so close to getting this going I can taste it. Here's the preliminary plan:

1) Get the reactor going with two fuel cells attached. The small one (1V , 300ma) will be used for the constant regeneration of one zinc electrode. The larger one (5W,2amps)will be used to operate a load. I'll start with the fan and add LEDs to full load.

2) Once the balance is found between running a load and regenerating the zinc electrode at the same time I will continue this for several weeks or months to see how it operates. This will either show overunity or not.

3) While this research is ongoing I will be looking into developing the built-in fuel cell from the YouTube link that shows how to build a NaOH fuel cell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cQg0Ur9Cko&NR=1

4) SCALE UP!!! I want that overunity prize. LOL!!!!

That's the preliminary plan.

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« Reply #620 on: September 02, 2007, 10:55:32 PM »
@ResinRat2

Keep on pluggin' away at it. 
Gut feeling tells me that if anyone besides Dr.G is going pull it off - you're the one that will!
Go Rat Go....

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« Reply #621 on: September 03, 2007, 02:28:50 PM »
WOW I LOVE THIS,THIS IS FANTASTIC, I BELIEVE WHOLE HEARTEDLY THIS WILL WORK,BUT EVEN IF IT DOESNT, YOU DESERVE A GOLD MEDAL FOR ALL THE EFFORT RESINRAT2. HEY DINGUS MUNGUS, THAT IS A TERRIBLE STORY OF THE COPS RAIDING YOUR HOME,JUST BLOODY TERRIBLE. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU WERE DOING THAT RAISED THEIR ATTENTION. ROZ
« Last Edit: September 04, 2007, 01:24:28 PM by rozzaa72 »

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #622 on: September 05, 2007, 08:27:12 PM »
I thought this might be of interest, unabashedly stolen from http://www.silver-colloids.com under their reports section:


"Ionic Silver Solutions -
    The vast majority of products labeled and sold as colloidal silver fall into this category due to the low degree of manufacturing complexity and resulting low cost of production. The silver content in these products consists of both silver ions and silver particles. Typically, 90% of the silver content is in the form of ionic silver and the remaining 10% of the silver content is in the form of silver particles. The silver ions are produced by electrolysis and may be described as ?dissolved silver?. Products produced by electrolysis are frequently described as "electro colloids". Because the majority of the silver content in these products is dissolved silver rather than metallic silver particles, it would be more technically accurate to describe these products as silver solutions. 

    Confusingly, ads for these products frequently claim that silver ions are small silver particles or describe the product as consisting of ionic silver particles. Silver ions are not the same as silver particles and the two terms are not interchangeable. Ionic silver is also referred to as monatomic silver and silver hydrosol by some producers who choose not to describe their products using the scientifically correct terminology. These are marketing terms used to hide the truth that what is being sold is an ionic silver solution. For more details read About Ionic Silver.

    How To Tell If A Product Is Mostly Ionic Silver

    Silver solutions are typically clear like water or have a slight yellow tint. These products are clear because silver that is dissolved in water looks just like sugar or salt that is dissolved in water; it has no visible appearance. The producers of ionic silver solutions will suggest that colloidal silver should look like clear water, but this is incorrect.

    Companies that sell ionic silver claim that their product is "true colloidal silver" in an attempt to confuse the buyer. Do not be fooled. If the product is clear, then it is ionic silver, not a true silver colloid. Colloidal particles, when present in sufficient concentration, absorb visible light causing the colloid to exhibit an "apparent color". The apparent color is the complement of the absorbed wavelength. Silver ions do not absorb visible light and therefore appear as clear colorless liquids.

    Many producers of ionic silver recommend that the product be stored only in glass containers. Some specify only amber or cobalt glass bottles because their products are photosensitive and deteriorate when exposed to light. True colloids do not have these issues.

    How To Test for Ionic Silver

    To figure out whether a solution is ionic silver, you only need add chloride ions. Common table salt, which is sodium chloride, will do. If silver ions are present the chloride ions will combine with the silver ions and create a white, cloudy appearance. To form a cloud that is visible requires that a sufficient concentration of silver ions be present, typically about 10 ppm or above. Simply place 1-2 ounces of ionic silver in a clear glass. Add a few grains of table salt. Observe whether, as the salt dissolves, a white cloud of silver chloride forms in the solution. If so, eventually, the entire solution will turn cloudy. If more salt is added, the white silver chloride will become denser until all the silver ions have combined with the available chlorine ions. If no silver ions are present then no white cloud will form. Here?s the rub: Some products will not make a white cloud of silver chloride when table salt is added because they contain no silver at all, or very little silver. Believe it or not, lab analysis has shown that some "silver" products actually contain no silver!

 Techno-Babble, Misleading Language and Bogus Science

The term colloidal means particles not ions, but producers of ionic silver products will try to convince the buyer that their product is a silver colloid. The common thread in most advertisements selling ionic silver products (labeled as colloidal silver) is to claim that ions are silver particles, or they try to blur the distinction by using the terms interchangeably. Another common trick is to display images made from a Transmission Electron Microscope (TEM) that they claim shows the small particles found in their products. These images do not show the silver particles in their products."

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I have just finished walking all over the town I live in and none of the drug stores or health food stores could supply me with the colloids. So I strated looking around the internet and, perhaps luckily, this was the first page I happened upon. I've read all the posts in this topic, and have not seen quality of colloids discussed anywhere.

If we want true comparisons of systems and results, we will need to use the same quality of ingredients.

I can't even find crystal Draino for the sodium hydroxide. Too many people were using it to make meth and so most stores won't even stock it.

Davetech



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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #623 on: September 05, 2007, 11:24:57 PM »
I was able to locate Sodium Hydroxide at http://www.unitednuclear.com/chem.htm at a pretty reasonable price.

@ Dingus - re: reply # 113...  the link http://www.silvermountainminerals.com/magnesium.html for the colloidal magnesium 404's on me. So do any other links to Silver Mountain Minerals which I obtained from a search engine. Perhaps they have gone belly up?  Or didn't pay their site bill...

The link to purestcolloids / Mesosilver works fine and, according to silver-colloids.com, it is good stuff. Silver-Colloids analyzes silver colloid products and posts the results on their site. Mesosilver was rated one of the best. A bit pricey though... $25 USD for 250 ml.   

So now I need to find an outlet for the colloidal magnesium.

I've got the zinc covered. I was welding and accidentally set the torch down with the tip pointed at a pile of late model pennies which just happened to be sitting there and, umm, well you know....  ::)

                           
The zinc sheets below were splash cast onto a steel I-beam. Then I broke off about 3" of a hack saw blade, shaped it on a grinder to fit my hand held jig saw, and used it to cut the the sheets out of the casting (held in a vice). I was pleased with the result. The sheets are of surprisingly uniform thickness to have been made by such a crude method.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2007, 12:31:31 AM by Davetech »

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #624 on: September 07, 2007, 03:58:34 AM »
Hi Davetech

I am thinking as alternative use Hydroxide of Magnesium.
Finds easy in drugstore.
I don't imagine if had worked well.

regards

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #625 on: September 10, 2007, 11:48:40 PM »
Here is a hacksaw blade touted as being tungsten carbide. From one of overunity.com's advertisers, no less.

http://www.toolking.com/milwaukee_48-43-0200.aspx

Would anyone be able to make an educated guess whether the entire blade is likely to be tungsten carbide, or just the teeth?

I would ask the company but my experience asking companies about their products usually has dismal results and I thought someone here might know.
Thanks.

Edit: Meh... I decided to go ahead and contact the company. Turns out they have a very nice online-chat product adviser, but my question was not in her book. So she referred me to a 1-800 number to their tech dept and after a few minutes of consulting they told me just the teeth are tungsten carbide treated.

Drat.
Double Drat even!
« Last Edit: September 11, 2007, 12:23:41 AM by Davetech »

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« Reply #626 on: September 11, 2007, 04:20:01 PM »
 ??? What's up with Resin Rat - no posting since 1st September - also Dingus Mungus - no posting since 31st August. I hope you two haven't been busted by BIG BROTHER, please let us know you're still around !

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« Reply #627 on: September 11, 2007, 05:21:08 PM »
Hi RW,

I share your apprehension. For days I have been expecting something new from RR2 or Dingus. Resin Rat 2, If you can hear this, tap 3 times.


@brnbrade  I started wondering if the bottle of Milk of Magnesia on top of my refrigerator might not be a colloidal mixture of magnesium. I examined the back label and, what do you know... there is your magnesium hydroxide. You were way ahead of me. But the magnesium is bound up with hydrogen, so I don't know if it would be available as a catalyst. It also has an equal amount of aluminum hydroxide, and I have no idea how that would get along with the rest of the items in the cell. Chemistry is /not/ my strong point.

I am leery of trying it. I could arrange to be far from the cell while experimenting so I would not get blown over my house, but poisonous gases can be invisible and odorless.

Thoughts anyone?     Tap 3 times RR2.

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« Reply #628 on: September 11, 2007, 05:22:59 PM »
I have not had anything of interest to post. I have had difficulty drilling the holes in the reactor. I am sure most people are not interested in my personal problems but I tried drilling two 5/8" holes in the plexiglass side of the reactor. I started with small pilot holes, no problem, but when I went up to 1/4" I started to get chipping of the plastic. This started to get me concerned. I went up to 1/2" and it really started to chip on the surface. It  then started to catch onto the sides of the hole and yank the reactor from my grasp. This flung the reactor on the floor.

I then talked to someone who designs plexiglass objects here in Illinois and he said they use special type bits to drill into plexiglass. Apparently they have a different cutting angle on them. He also said that he uses soap to lubricate the drill bit as it cuts. So I ordered the drill bit I need last week and it still has not come in yet. So again, another problem and another difficulty to overcome. As soon as the 5/8" drill bit comes in I will drill out the holes, insert the rubber stoppers with the electrodes in them, refill and reseal the reactor. Then that should solve my leak problem.

This has been a difficult road, but I am overcoming problems as they pop up. Some of them have been tricky.

Please have patience with me. I won't be posting if there is nothing relevant to post.

Thanks for your interest.

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #629 on: September 11, 2007, 05:42:38 PM »

@RR2   Very good to hear from you. 

I wish you had a Dremel tool. It is a little hand-held drill, better ones have variable speed, and goes up to something like 15,000 rpm, I think. I have owned and used them since my r/c flying days back in the 70's. They can be found on eBay.

The Dremel is great for fabricating with plastics. If you use the little carbide treated milling bit, you can run the speed up and melt your plastic how ever you want it, using very little pressure. The little bit of melted plastic that gets left on the edges is easily removed after it cools, with a fingernail.

There are many other attachments available for the Dremel, but perhaps the most useful are the little "zizz-wheel" cutoff blades. They will cut right through most metals, even SS bolts. Safety goggles are a must, because the thin blades are prone to break if they hang up, but they are dirt cheap, so no biggie there.

If you have a cheap soldering iron, you might try melting the holes with it.

I wish we lived closer together. I'd be glad to do your fabrication work.