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z.monkey

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2008, 03:48:18 PM »
Howdy,

You can view the universe if you use your MIND.  You don't need to use your eyes.  Of course, Utilitarian will disagree with me on this also.  You can also use your mind to view the macrocosmic and microcosmic universes also.  Your mind can go anywhere in spacetime, anywhere in the multiverse.  Having vision limits your perception to the things that you cannot see with you physical eyes.  Like, Angels and Archangels exist on a higher plane of existence and can normally not see them with your physical eyes.  But when you develop your mental powers and learn how to be clairvoyant you can see them easily.  Those who refuse to make the effort to see with their mind will never know this.  I could make an analogy here and say that it would be like trying to describe a rainbow to a blind man.

Haliburton is right the structure of the atom is exactly the same as a star system.  A galaxy would be a complex molecule.  A single universe would be an object composed of complex molecules.  A single universe is not infinite.  But if you consider in infinite number of universes in both the X, Y, and Z dimensions, and in the microcosmic, macrocosmic, and time dimensions then existence is truly infinite in at least six dimensions.

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2008, 04:16:22 PM »
Yeah, I remember reading a science fiction novel when I was a kid (back in the 50's) with the same theme.  These guys did something to make themselves start shrinking and they were trying to get someplace specific before they got too small.  There was also another group of people that were doing the same thing that started before the first people had, so these people were being careful to not step on where they thought the people ahead of them might be.  Eventually they got so small they could see the atoms.  They kept getting smaller and finally the atoms became planets.  I think time must have slowed down for them, too.

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2008, 06:28:48 PM »
The similarity between a planetary system and an atom is only passing.  They are much more different than they are alike.

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2008, 06:30:37 PM »
can u say duu

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2008, 06:34:28 PM »

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2008, 07:27:16 PM »
Howdy,

Good clip.  Right before Captain Archer saves the earth once again.  The real Reptilians are not as hideous as the Star Trek Reptilians.  They have smooth skin, and don't look like Horned Toads, more like a Green Lizard.  They do have the slotted pupils.  Reptilians are indigenous to Earth.  They were here long before the monkey people were.  Legend has it that advanced aliens came here and accelerated the evolution of the indigenous monkeys to become humans.  Our evolution is not natural and the other species that had to suffer the regular, long evolution don't like us very much because of that.  Well, and also the fact that we are a greedy, viscous, war like species.

Another thing about our self-centric view of the universe is that we are superior because, to us, we look better that other species.  That is a matter of perspective.  To a Reptilian WE are funny looking.  To an Insectoid WE are grotesque.

Gene Roddenberry was a man that knew how to use his MIND.  He looked out into the multiverse and saw awesome, wonderful things.  He wrote them down and turned them into Star Trek.  Of course what we see on TV has been through the Hollywood filter, but the concepts are fairly untouched.  The Star Trek novels written by Gene Roddenberry are much more true to what is actually out there.

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2008, 07:44:57 AM »
Has anybody ever seen the structure of a atom.  It look like a small universe.  What if our universe is simply a form of a atom that makes up another planet structure or universe.  If that where true that means we could have trillions and trillions of universes sitting on out coffee table or that make up our PC pants water food trees grass dirt ETC.  They are just so small we cant even comprehend it.  That is a something i have thought of for quite some time.  what is your guys input? ???


Well I think that is the way it actually is. the thing that saves us is that that time factor is different by magnitudes. the little galaxies in your coffe table experience a million lifetimes in one of our seconds so its hard to snuff anything out there. Same goes for us if we are part of somebody elses. we live a million lifetimes by the time they can affect us with one of their actions. Who knows maybe we are part of one molecule in the explosion of a sun in the next universe up.

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2008, 08:24:56 AM »
Wow i never thought of it like that!

So in other words, the more you shrink the more time will shrink with you!

Just like how many insects live for only a few days!

The problem is, we base our time off of seasons and rotations around the sun when in fact time is just a illusion and is just a way for us humans to document our past. 

I still don't understand why nasa spends all that money leaving earth to explore when everything we need to know about our universe is right here on earth!

And even if they found life on mars do you think they would even tell? probably not.....

Same goes for micro universes.  if one day they found a civilization on a pin head that floated down from space why would they tell us?

For us humans to believe we are the standard size for living civilizations in the larger and micro universe is just plain ignorant!

z.monkey

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2008, 03:33:31 PM »
Howdy,

We are not human beings having a spiritual experience,
we are spiritual beings having a human experience.

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2008, 04:42:27 PM »
>And even if they found life on mars do you think they would even tell? probably not.....

Of course they would. It would be the ultimate form of getting money to advance their research. Why do you think there is so much interest in finding life on the planets of the solar system and deep space? Money! finding life elsewhere would be the biggest boon to space exploration imaginable.

What is it that makes you think they would keep it a secret? And how long do you thing a secret like that would remain so?

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2008, 04:55:56 PM »
>Gene Roddenberry was a man that knew how to use his MIND.  He looked out into the multiverse and saw awesome, wonderful things.  He wrote them down and turned them into Star Trek.  Of course what we see on TV has been through the Hollywood filter, but the concepts are fairly untouched.  The Star Trek novels written by Gene Roddenberry are much more true to what is actually out there.

 Gene Roddenberry didn't write any Star Trek novels and if you think he did please show me one on Amazon. He was a hack Hollywood writer that actually stole a lot of his ideas from other writers. He was eventually confronted by some of them and had to apologize but he kept right on doing it. He was also addicted to cocaine. Star Trek was okay but let's not elevate the creator to something he wasn't.

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2008, 06:59:02 PM »
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We are not human beings having a spiritual experience,
we are spiritual beings having a human experience.

We are human beings who wish we had a spiritual experience. We seek that which we cannot have. We search for that which is not inside of us. This is why we go for things like religion, meditation, etc. If we were spiritual beings - or even humans that are really having spiritual experiences - we'd be a much different kind of species.


edit: P.S. Star Trek Rocks ;D

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2008, 07:08:54 PM »
Howdy,

The grass is greener on the other side of the galaxy...

I want to go find out, anyone up for building a warp 5 starship today?

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Re: the no longer useful thread got me thinking
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2008, 08:02:07 PM »
The most amazing thing of it all is our brain is set to have a limit to what we think about our universe.

Every year, humans get smarter and evolve very slow but its like we don't get smarter really fast because it will hurt us.  I think thats why we cant imagine what really is out there in space because we are not ready to know yet.

Until are brains are capable of understanding what we see on the other side of the universe then we will probably have the technology to go along with it. 

our eyes can only see and understand what our own brain lets
us see and understand...
 

If our mind had endless thoughts then we probably would be in deep coma. like a CPU overload

Us humans are dumb on purpose and have limits to our knowledge.

Check this clip out of a savant on my website http://infospill.com/?q=node/62 Kim Peek is so smart his brain gets overloaded and he cant even do simple motor skills.