the no longer useful thread got me thinking

[Haliburton]

Has anybody ever seen the structure of a atom.  It look like a small universe.  What if our universe is simply a form of a atom that makes up another planet structure or universe.  If that where true that means we could have trillions and trillions of universes sitting on out coffee table or that make up our PC pants water food trees grass dirt ETC.  They are just so small we cant even comprehend it.  That is a something i have thought of for quite some time.  what is your guys input?

[z.monkey]

Howdy,

It goes the other way too.  Our entire galaxy is just a molecule in some giant dudes coffee cup.  You can think of dimension in our universe as X, Y and Z coordinates.  Then add the macrocosmic dimension and the microcosmic dimension, and you have 5 dimensions to the multiverse.  Add time to this and you have 6 dimensions.  Assuming that this is infinite in both the macrocosmic dimension and the microcosmic dimension there are literally an infinite number of universes.  In quantum mechanics this is called superspace.  It has also been referred to as the multiverse.

The thing that defines where we sit in the multiverse is consciousness.  Where is the reality that you perceive?  Your mind can take you anywhere in spacetime, anywhere in the multiverse.  Now physically you may not be able to traverse the multiverse, but your mind is free to go anywhere.  Advanced masters of the mind can physically transport themselves anywhere in the multiverse.  Teleportation of the physical body, time travel, and way faster than light travel are all possible when you master the powers of your mind.  It would be like having a TARDIS, except you wouldn't need the box.

Say you have an itch on your leg, and you scratch it, you could be wiping out a myriad of microcosmic galaxies.

So be careful what you do.  Someones galaxy might be at stake!

Blessed Be Brothers...

[slapper]

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Warning: a total of 8hrs of vids. Enjoy.

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[Haliburton]

haha nice... well now i wonder how we can put these micro people to work on our overunity projects.  i think that energy sources are all around us and so powerful we cant even begin to understand by the way we think now.  super duper electronic microscopes and telescopes don't even touch the corner of the true powers that we are at bay of.

[vdubdipr]

man . i swear i think the same shit hal, and even just how the earth sits on its "axis" which is the polarity of the magnetic fields, which have shifted 3 degrees in the past 30 years or so.. so yeah thats how the earth orbits right? just the magnetic fields at work... hmm lets hook a serpentine belt around the sun and the earth to drive an altinator... lol....jackpot!

[yoyo]

what about a black hole
where do the energy it eat go?

another universe?

the bigbang mite be the energy from a blackhole in other universe

[z.monkey]

Howdy,

Black holes are just stars, but the emit a wavelength of light that is far out of the visible spectrum.  Astronomers use the X-Ray telescopes to "view" a black hole.  The energy level that the "black hole" emits is higher than a normal visible star.

OK, try this one.  Our solar system is pregnant.  It is fixing to give birth to a baby star system.  How is that for way out there.  I don't know who the father is.  Jupiter is supposedly going to "ignite" and become a star.  Jupiter already has 4 planet sized moons, and another 59 dwarf moons.  So, upon ignition the Jupiter Star system already has four planets.  The increased energy from the ignition will cause the Jupiter Star System to slowly push itself out of the Sol Star System (our solar system).  As it is pushing itself away the orbits of its 4 planets will expand, and the dwarf moons will be attracted into the orbits of Jupiter's planets.  It could also snag some of Sols planets on its journey away from Sol.

So from a macrocosmic view this is cell division.  This one star system is diving into two star systems.  I guess you could call it asexual reproduction.   Things happening on the macrocosmic scale take a long time relative to us microbeings.  God sees this in a microscope and it takes a few seconds relative to His perspective.  We have the opposite vantage point, looking at the same thing through a telescope, and it takes millions of years.

Blessed Be Brothers...

[Haliburton]

My brain hurts 

[utilitarian]

Howdy,

Black holes are just stars, but the emit a wavelength of light that is far out of the visible spectrum.  Astronomers use the X-Ray telescopes to "view" a black hole.  The energy level that the "black hole" emits is higher than a normal visible star.

OK, try this one.  Our solar system is pregnant.  It is fixing to give birth to a baby star system.  How is that for way out there.  I don't know who the father is.  Jupiter is supposedly going to "ignite" and become a star.  Jupiter already has 4 planet sized moons, and another 59 dwarf moons.  So, upon ignition the Jupiter Star system already has four planets. 

Dude, please stop making up stuff.

Black holes are not "just stars" which emit a different light.  Black holes are imploded stars which emit nothing, as far as we know.  Maybe someday we will discover if they emit something, but no, we are not catching their X-Rays.  We know about black holes because of the effect they have on light and objects around them.

Second, no, Jupiter is not going to become another sun.  It is simply not large enough to sustain an ongoing fusion reaction.  Jupiter does have an ample supply of hydrogen, but that alone is not enough.

What happens with stars is they are so massive that the pressure at the core is sufficient enough to fuse light elements into heavier ones.  For example, in the case of our Sun, hydrogen fuses into helium.  But below certain temperatures and pressures, the fusion reaction will not be able to continue, and the object will never become a star.

It is generally accepted through theory and observations that it takes about 0.08 of our Sun's mass for an object to be able to sustain fusion.  Jupiter is about 0.001 of the sun's mass, so to be a star, it would need to be 80 times larger.

[Mr.Entropy]

Has anybody ever seen the structure of a atom.  It look like a small universe.

No, it doesn't.

[Haliburton]

YES IT DOES  http://www.alancolville.com/mineral/atom_structure1.jpg  99.9% of a atom is empty space

[z.monkey]

Howdy Utilitarian,

Well the subject matter of this thread didn't seem that serious, microcosmic and macrocosmic universes.  So I felt that adding a little Cosmic Folklore wouldn't hurt either.  So, you have been in close proximity to a black hole?  You can tell through first hand experience what it really is, or are you relying of the theoretical blatherings of astronomers and astrophysicists who have only viewed a black hole from half a galaxy away?  The same thing about Jupiter forming a baby star system, you have personal experience in what it takes to create sustained fusion and ignite a star?   Or do you have more theoretical blatherings from some nuclear physicists?  My information was channeled from an Archangel, who I trust infinitely more than any human scientist.

I really didn't think this topic was all that "Hard Facts of Science" dude, lighten up.

You are really going to hate it when the Galactic Federation burns off the ozone layer.  Supposedly the ozone layer was purposely placed on our planet to limit our ability to see ships traveling in deep space.  This way the Forces of Darkness could keep us subservient to them and not allow us to know of our ancient heritage in countless other worlds throughout our galaxy.

Between Jupiter and the Ozone Layer you are going to need better sunglasses...

Blessed Be Brother...

[utilitarian]

Howdy Utilitarian,

Well the subject matter of this thread didn't seem that serious, microcosmic and macrocosmic universes.  So I felt that adding a little Cosmic Folklore wouldn't hurt either.  So, you have been in close proximity to a black hole?  You can tell through first hand experience what it really is, or are you relying of the theoretical blatherings of astronomers and astrophysicists who have only viewed a black hole from half a galaxy away?  The same thing about Jupiter forming a baby star system, you have personal experience in what it takes to create sustained fusion and ignite a star?   Or do you have more theoretical blatherings from some nuclear physicists?  My information was channeled from an Archangel, who I trust infinitely more than any human scientist.

I really didn't think this topic was all that "Hard Facts of Science" dude, lighten up.

You are really going to hate it when the Galactic Federation burns off the ozone layer.  Supposedly the ozone layer was purposely placed on our planet to limit our ability to see ships traveling in deep space.  This way the Forces of Darkness could keep us subservient to them and not allow us to know of our ancient heritage in countless other worlds throughout our galaxy.

Between Jupiter and the Ozone Layer you are going to need better sunglasses...

Blessed Be Brother...

Oh, the invisible man in the sky told you all this.  You should have said so from the beginning.

[Mr.Entropy]

YES IT DOES  http://www.alancolville.com/mineral/atom_structure1.jpg  99.9% of a atom is empty space

The universe (AFAWK) has no center, no nucleus, and nothing orbiting around its middle (oh yeah, no middle!).  The matter in it is distributed in a statistically uniform, but clumpy way.  It looks nothing like an atom.

[Haliburton]

well what i meant was the planetary system. 

And anyhow, how do you know that the universe has no middle and that galaxies do not orbit around it?

Humans will never know what the universe looks like, not in our life time!