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Author Topic: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?  (Read 372900 times)

th3jester

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #240 on: July 03, 2008, 07:21:29 PM »
@wings

I like the ideas and concepts of that guy but he doesn't give any hard edvidence that it actually works. Or even any real theory or circuit analysis behind his devices. At least his thinking outside the box.

@otto @all

 I would like to see some good circuit anaylsis on any of the TPU's that have been built or are still in development.

But anyways I believe if someone actually did some good circuit anaylsis it would probably give you guys a better idea of whats going on and how to actually make it work the right way. Don't say there is already tons of anaylsis on the circuits because I haven't seen one. Putting the input voltage and freq is not it.
If you need "circuit anaylsis" explained just let me know.

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #241 on: July 03, 2008, 10:19:44 PM »
The air core devices let the magnetic field reach the center at full velocity. The pressure will cause a spin in line with the direction of the pulse through the coil. When the pulse subsides, the earths magnetic field reconnects. The SM17 was air core although the drivers looked elsewise. Marco posted the Earth field reconnect 2 yrs ago when I posted the TPU in the Earth field horizontal to the ground.

I don't see much talk about the field model in real space.

--giantkiller.

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #242 on: July 04, 2008, 06:36:57 PM »
@otto

Thanks for your directives on how to connect. I did the connection expect that I presently only have one frequency generator (FG) so what I did was used two IRF840s in parallel but with only one frequency supplying both.

OK, just my bad luck when I did my first trials I did not write down what the frequency was but it was in the range of 1.6mhz. Anyways for the first time I could see some voltage rise on the load. On the 1000 watts bulb I also added in parrallel my humongous 1200v capacitor via a diode and there I put my voltage meter. Voltage went to around 34 volts. Never saw that happen before.

I was using my larger 10 amp dc power supply that doe snot have the current limiting like my other one, but voltage could only go to 20 vdc. I then started playing with the FG and from there I lost everything.

Oh yeh, I originally had the 840 on my breadboard but the board just smoked to hell. I now put the 840s in a good terminal holder with fatter wires. I had to double the + and - wires from the power supply. Eveything that was plastic like my red tapes to distinguish coils are now toast. Two of the four coils now have blackened wires so I don't know if I should rewind or continue trying.

My coils are with 22 awg wire but in your direction you are using .5mm (closest is 24 awg) so your coil wires are thinner then mine. I don't understand how you could be running 24 vdc into the and still have then survive. The device is basically one round toaster yoke. I could probably cook an egg in the yoke. lol

With my scope a 10x, I have seen some very weird things, that I have never seen before. I seems like there is also a delay from when you apply current and see anything special on the scope. Without making any changes, the scope changes by itself dramatically to some very bizare wave forms.

There is something happenning but it is difficult to separate the brute force driving power and the resulting effects. The bulb did not light but the system is just making smoke.

Anyways, I am looking for a second FG. I had a second one but it blew.

Last question, do you only put the FG probe onto the gate and not use the probe ground? I was not using the probe ground.

I am putting the diagram on page three here so others will know what I did.

Added:

Otto, on the diagram where we see the two top coil, where they cross over each other on the right there is a dot. Does this mean they are connected together all four wires. Just where it says 6" TPU, just below and between the P and the U. I did not connect it there.

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #243 on: July 05, 2008, 06:48:28 PM »
@Wattsup,

If you are applying the signal directly to the gate and the SG shield/ground is not connected there is probably no way for the gate to drain or fall back to an 'off' state. Your MOSFets are probably staying 'on'. This would smoke things a bit.
Hope you had the makings of smores when you lit'er up  ;D

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #244 on: July 06, 2008, 01:17:20 AM »
hi   all
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 but remeber this  <,GOD   say be perfect and learn to be perfect  and make  beter  world as   like haven >.
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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #245 on: July 06, 2008, 07:03:48 AM »
@MAC

SM's device is more difficult than radio receiver research, because it is seriously conflict to the physical law of energy conservation. I still don't see any practical way of any hope here getting close to the target. All of those experiments is trying normal EE work. Some of them even learning how to drive MOSFET. How is possible to be success.

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #246 on: July 07, 2008, 06:32:59 AM »
Hello all,

I wanted to post on Saturday, on Sunday....impossible. The "post" button blocked.
My PC at home is working OK, my internet connection is OK, I only could NOT post!! Now I will try to post from my PC at my workplace.

@wattsup

sorry for your trouble. We already know that the current is not in the wires but on the outer side of the wires so I can use even wires with a smaller diameter without any problems.
It seems that you have maybe something connected wrong? In my tests I saw that when a coil is connected in a wrong way the core heats up. Like a toaster.
When everything is connected as it should be then the core is only warm.

Again how to connect the FG, MOSFETs...

1. the "hot" side from the FG connect directly to the MOSFETs Gate.
2. the minus from the FG, from the power supply and from the MOSFETs Source is connected TOGETHER.
3. the MOSFETs Drain is connected directly to the MOSFETs Drain.

The dot you see in my schematic is NOT a dot so dont connect this point.

Dont connect the scope probe to this TPU. The probe just near the coils.

You saw weird things? Heeey, this is only the start point of much weirder things. You cant imagine what is waiting ....

I suppose that you dont have any light. How can you have a light from a high voltage??
We all saw the videos. On top of the 6" TPU is a "transformer" like from a camera flash. Under this "transformer" is an additional coil wound over a metal toroid. This is the OUTPUT transformer. This transformer converts our high voltage into a usable voltage for our bulb.

So, get a blown PC power supply and there is a transformer, always T1, and connect this transformer as an output for your bulb but driven in the opposite way.This great idea I got from a veeery good guy here from the forum.

Yes, I posted this a few times. Without this transformer you dont have a chance to light your bulb.

You remember the 15" TPU? Dont we see there 2 coils wound over a silver metal? This are the output coils!!!

Of course 2 FGs are a must. You have to mix at least 2 frequencies.

@tosky

we all know the work of Tesla, now is Hubbard in the other thread...

If you look at just 1 coil its a piece of wire with or without a core and the work with such coils is only a EE work. When you have more of this boring coils its still an oridinary EE work until you see effects that are NOT expected. In such a moment the boring work with oridinary coils starts to be an interesting adventure. Interesting because the coils are not working as you would expect.

How is an success possible?

WITH HARD WORK!!

Otto


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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #247 on: July 07, 2008, 03:03:33 PM »
@otto

Thanks very much for your post. I needed exactly what you are saying and will be getting a second FG. I already saw one on Ebay here;

http://cgi.ebay.ca/20-MHZ-FUNCTION-GENERATOR-FREQUENCY-COUNTER-ZAPPER_W0QQitemZ270252412571QQihZ017QQcategoryZ97196QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It goes up to 20MHz and is much more sophisticated then the one I have which is a 2MHz BK Precision model 3011B.

I have experienced that when I have the system running and I start playing with the FG Duty and Offset adjustment, more often then not I wind up blowing the mosfet. I have blown a good 15 mosfets so far. lol I think I am catching up to your number of blown mosfets. lol

Also, I think I will have to rewind the coils because two of the coils (the smaller ones in the diagram labeled Trigger coils) have been blackened considerably and I am worried the lacquer insulation is gone and is now shorting. No problem and this time I will use the 24 awg as you have.

I know I am a pain in the ass but could you please take a new look at the wiring diagram above just to make sure there is no mistake in the diagram itself. When I rewind the coils and prepare for new testing I will take a photo to show you what I have done.

I am amazed that there are no other people trying this. It is so easy to wind the coils and all.

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #248 on: July 08, 2008, 06:05:43 AM »
Hello all,

@wattsup

I already said that you can ask what you want. Youre working and thats very good.

My schematic is OK but you can change something:

The trigger coils must be connected in series. If you have 2 or 4 trigger coils they must be connected in series.

The load coil: if you have 2 cores then you can use 2 load coils connected in series and then connected in paralel. This gives the best output results.

Again, a n output transformer is needed to get a lower voltage on the bulb. This is important.

I made my newest TPU with a 9 turns collector + a Metglas magnetic core + 4 bifilar wound controls in 2 hours or so. Its not so a big job but .....

Otto

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #249 on: July 08, 2008, 09:12:19 PM »
Hello all,

@All

Again - How about using a Metglas magnetic alloy as a core?

Otto


It has to be air core.
Using a core will null out and destroy the effect.
In fact anything inside the spinning vortex will interact with it ,even most plastics will heat up and melt at certain frequencies.
This is one of the reasons why you cannot use metals close to the unit aswell as why Stevens units heated up due to eddy currents induced in all the bailing wire inside the field.

M.

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #250 on: July 09, 2008, 06:00:51 AM »
Hello all,

@marco

sorry, I dont get it. What effect?

Otto

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #251 on: July 09, 2008, 09:14:36 AM »
Hello all,

@marco

sorry, I dont get it. What effect?

Otto

The Kick Otto ,The little Radiant Energy burst.
Using iron close to the coils destroys the kick because it nulles out the effect.
So go and and use youre core do some testing and report the fantastic results like you use to do.

M.

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #252 on: July 09, 2008, 09:41:36 AM »
Hello all,

@marco

thanks a lot because I really didnt get it. Heeeej, my "lamp" under my hair is not the brightest!!

Kicks? My God I have kicks as big as I want. It only depends how I connect my LC tank circuit to the TPU. I found out a few ways to have so big kicks that I can see only a fracture of them. The kicks are with a perfect on off time, to say it in this way.

When my scope probe is only near my TPU, not connected, then I see very sharp kicks at ALL frequencies. The same kicks I had when I didnt use a core. The same. But with this core I see that my output power is bigger and some anomalies that I now try to understand.

You showed us a long time ago signals, sines and the kicks on top of them. Mannix told us that such signals are on the output of the TPU. Now I have the same signals. And the same signals I had when I blowed all my equipment.

Such signals I have only at a frequency mix in the range of 4 - 5 micro seconds. At all the other frequency mixes I have oridinary signals - kicks.

I think I forgot to mention that I have for the moment a 1 ring TPU with an magnetic alloy as a core and a LC tank circuit connected just 1 end to the bulb. The bulb is separated from everything with an output transformer.

Otto

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Re: Is Lindsay’s “SM” a fraud?
« Reply #253 on: July 09, 2008, 04:49:23 PM »
with all due respect gentlemen,

the KICK   is not a voltage spike, but physical  MOVEMENT

re-read the SM correspondence and you'll see what he means ....

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Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #254 on: July 10, 2008, 06:24:19 AM »
Hello all,

@EM

sorry to say but I dont care what a kick is, I dont care if my waves are compression waves (longitudinal) or somethins else. With my newest TPU I have my little theory and I will prove this theory first for myself and then, if everything fits, I will post it.

The interesting point for me are my coils, the core and how to get as much as possible out of them.

Otto